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[yesikareyes]

I used to always chose Isabela because Merrill is such a kid at times but Isabela seems kind of like a **** so I'm thinking of making my male Hawke... single all throughout! haha. I tried to romance Aveline because I think their friendship is cute but oh well Donnic wins at the end of the day! Anyhoo my Hawke just really cares about his sister Bethany and it's strange how I never chose to save Carver ever.

If Hawke is the protagonist in the next game then I guess I'll wait for a more interesting character to romance. No one tops Leliana for me so far!

[TEWR]

Hawke won't be the protagonist in DA3. The devs have confirmed this.

And I think Merrill knows people think she's a tad too naive -- at least after Act 1 -- and she just sort of uses that to her advantage by continuing along with it. She's maintaining a facade of her being like that.

That's what I think anyway, because she is a very intelligent character.

[yesikareyes]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hawke won't be the protagonist in DA3. The devs have confirmed this.

Really? praise the Maker! I really don't like Hawke's look and voice

[Knight of Dane]

yesikareyes wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hawke won't be the protagonist in DA3. The devs have confirmed this.

Really? praise the Maker! I really don't like Hawke's look and voice

Character Creator anyone?

[Fox In The Box]

Playing a lady Hawke or going gay for Fenris or Anders isn't an option, then?

[Bayz]

I ended up in my male het Hawke playthrough to Isabella not just because Merril was childish, but because she was an elf mainly...I don't do that zoophilia thing everybody seems comfortable with (if you could choose race though...I might be gay and go for Fenris still XD)

In my gay male Hawke playthrough, I went for Anders just to add some drama to the ending and because in my twisted male heterosexual narrow mindset I think is the one a gay guy would more probably go to, even though I found him tremendously whiny and probably most gay guys did as well, but hey my DA:O first romance was Alistair so I can put up with that ****...I personally felt myself more attracted to Varric anyway, but read what I said about zoophilia.

I can see a gay Lady Hawke go for Merril though, but I am still to crossplay in this game so...

[sylvanaerie]

I like both actually.

I've romanced both as male Hawkes and as female since i won't romance Anders (I don't do angst) and Fenris tends to annoy me unless I am playing a mage (then I can romance him on my mage girls). If Anders or Merrill are in my group they usually have antagonistic and disruptive banters with Fenris, which detracts from the fun of my game.

I got two kids in RL I don't want to listen to that **** in a game.

[yesikareyes]

Bayz wrote...

I ended up in my male het Hawke playthrough to Isabella not just because Merril was childish, but because she was an elf mainly...I don't do that zoophilia thing everybody seems comfortable with (if you could choose race though...I might be gay and go for Fenris still XD)

In my gay male Hawke playthrough, I went for Anders just to add some drama to the ending and because in my twisted male heterosexual narrow mindset I think is the one a gay guy would more probably go to, even though I found him tremendously whiny and probably most gay guys did as well, but hey my DA:O first romance was Alistair so I can put up with that ****...I personally felt myself more attracted to Varric anyway, but read what I said about zoophilia.

I can see a gay Lady Hawke go for Merril though, but I am still to crossplay in this game so...

Hahahahaha that's funny!! Well, I I feel like my Hawke isn't right for anyone... male or female I think my Hawke is destined to be forever alone or just plain BFFs with Bethany. Also, All my love interests are always the same race as my character. Like in Mass Effect, I liked Liara's personality but I couldn't do it so I went with Miranda instead! For FemShep, no human or alien seemed interesting enough for me so I guess she's forever alone too.

[Gervaise]

For interest try romancing Isabella and then moving onto Merrill because Isabella is rather protective of her and threatens to emasculate you if you hurt Merrill - I wonder has any Hawke actually suffered this fate?

[Bayz]

Gervaise wrote...

For interest try romancing Isabella and then moving onto Merrill because Isabella is rather protective of her and threatens to emasculate you if you hurt Merrill - I wonder has any Hawke actually suffered this fate?

Ouch that's evil

[sylvanaerie]

Gervaise wrote...

For interest try romancing Isabella and then moving onto Merrill because Isabella is rather protective of her and threatens to emasculate you if you hurt Merrill - I wonder has any Hawke actually suffered this fate?

She does that if you romance Merrill at all.  However, on my "William Hawke" playthrough i started with Isabella and ended up flirting with Merrill and it broke the Issy romance.  She still promised to take his manhood if he hurts Merrill (and when you give her the ship in Act 3, if you give it to her, she invites you to come and bring Merrill along with you when she plans on leaving Kirkwall).  I imagined that very ending for them in my fic.

There is also a bittersweet banter between Merrill and Isabella with Merrill cooing over her romance with Hawke and Issy sounds so sad but is still very sweet to Merrill, who I guess is oblivious to the fact that Issy loved him first...Very tragic...

[yesikareyes]

sylvanaerie wrote...

There is also a bittersweet banter between Merrill and Isabella with Merrill cooing over her romance with Hawke and Issy sounds so sad but is still very sweet to Merrill, who I guess is oblivious to the fact that Issy loved him first...Very tragic...

What?? How do you get that dialogue? I never heard that.

[sylvanaerie]

yesikareyes wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

There is also a bittersweet banter between Merrill and Isabella with Merrill cooing over her romance with Hawke and Issy sounds so sad but is still very sweet to Merrill, who I guess is oblivious to the fact that Issy loved him first...Very tragic...

What?? How do you get that dialogue? I never heard that.

yea thats the only time I've ever heard it.  It's a party banter.  You have to romance Isabella first, and don't kill the romance by telling her 'its just sex'.  Then flirt with Merrill and sleep with her when she comes to your home.  It kills the Isabella romance, without you actually breaking up with Issy.  Since I use mods it was hard for me to tell if she was still in her 'romanced costume', but her dialogues with Hawke afterward were all "Friend" ones.  And the game ending with the convos was as if I had romanced only Merrill, and that's who William ended up with.
Damn ninjamancing Dalish elf...she's so damn cute.

William was such an ass....damn good fun though!

[yesikareyes]

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yea thats the only time I've ever heard it.  It's a party banter.  You have to romance Isabella first, and don't kill the romance by telling her 'its just sex'.  Then flirt with Merrill and sleep with her when she comes to your home.  It kills the Isabella romance, without you actually breaking up with Issy.  Since I use mods it was hard for me to tell if she was still in her 'romanced costume', but her dialogues with Hawke afterward were all "Friend" ones.  And the game ending with the convos was as if I had romanced only Merrill, and that's who William ended up with.
Damn ninjamancing Dalish elf...she's so damn cute.

William was such an ass....damn good fun though![/quote]

Thanks I should try doing that!! On another note, I also contemplated giving Isabela up to the Arishok cause I got pissed that she deserted me. 

[sylvanaerie]

I've turned her over to the Arishok only once (on my **** Warrior LadyHawke), but it was too heartbreaking to watch. I had to reload and duel the Arishok.
I can't kill the sibling in the Deep Roads, I can't turn Fenris over to Denarius either, though I have seen the former on Utube and done the latter just to see before reloading and wasting the Magister.

I don't do angst. Reality has enough pain I don't want to do it in a game.

[Bayz]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

It's like the girl has zero empathy/social skills. Call that "using her naivety to her advantage" if you will, but I fail to see the advantage in that. 

Less than zero. Zero means nobody will remember you, she tends to provoke hostility most of the time (look at her clan). In fact thinking about it deeper empathy seems to be something the elves just don't do...as a whole in two games...

Problem I have handling Fenris to Denarius is that Tevinters are ****s...I mean I am yet to find anyone sympathetic, I know Fenris is somewhat but I don't think he is enough sympathetic to consider the nation other thing that...Mordor.

[TEWR]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Wishful thinking. Merrill is a genius regarding magic, but not anything else.

Especially when you bring her along to save Leandra from Quentin. That's late Act 2, post romance. She sees Quentin's shrine for his late wife. "Oh! That's a pretty little shrine."

I can't hold Merrill accountable for the bad writing of that quest.

Anders says "Maybe this time we'll find more than bones" and Isabela says "If I ever make a shrine like this, stab me in the eye please".

How are those any better? I find Anders' to be worse.

And in Merrill's defense, it is a kinda pretty shrine. It just seemed like a casual observation to me. Extremely creepy given what we know of Quentin, but kinda pretty. People who have lost their spouse tend to make shrines -- varying in size -- to them in some form or another. Also, she made that comment before the connection to looking like Leandra was even made.

And personally, that portrait didn't really look like Leandra to me.

Or if you bring her along to investigate Gascard DuPuis's mansion. "Gascard is like me. We both like ancient artifacts."

I always bring her and I've never gotten that. How'd you get it?

It's like the girl has zero empathy/social skills. Call that "using her naivety to her advantage" if you will, but I fail to see the advantage in that. 

you do realize that she goes to see Hawke, knows he's upset, consoles him, and also says that she too is filled with great sorrow?

Ir abelas, ma vhenan.

Translated, that means "I am filled with great sorrow for your loss, my love."

Merrill quite clearly fits the bill of an empath, as empathy is defined as being able to recognize and share feelings. She's actually a sympathetic person as that involves being an empath but also having a positive regard for the other person.

EDIT: Not to mention that she says "I'm sorry. his blood magic was the only thing keeping her alive. There's nothing I can do" when Leandra starts dying.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 18 décembre 2011 - 04:55 .

[sylvanaerie]

After Bethany is gone in Act 2, Merrill becomes the mage in my group. I use a mod that allows all characters to have most all the talent trees (mages have too many so its limited) and she can do healing as well as any of the mages. So she comes with my warrior/rogue Hawkes everywhere in Act 2/3, except when I need Anders for his quests. I've taken her in the All that Remains quest and while I don't really care for her comment, Anders's made me want to shove my steel plated boot up his ass.

Yea, we will find more than bones, we'll find my mom's blood magic'ed corpse walking around, you jackass!

I think it's human nature to try to find comfort in humor when you're scared, but damn, the companion comments during that quest show a level of insensitivity that made me want to murderlize all of them and have Hawke walk out of there alone.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:57 .

[TEWR]

I think it's human nature to try to find comfort in humor when you're scared, but damn, the companion comments during that quest show a level of insensitivity that made me want to murderlize all of them and have Hawke walk out of there alone

Indeed. I've often used humor as a defense mechanism for my more horrendous days.

But the companion comments -- aside from Varric's killing of Gascard and Merrill's observation -- did make me just say "Seriously.... that's not funny. That's just being a jackass"

[Bayz]

sylvanaerie wrote...
I think it's human nature to try to find comfort in humor when you're scared, but damn, the companion comments during that quest show a level of insensitivity that made me want to murderlize all of them and have Hawke walk out of there alone.

Glad to see I am not the only one. Funny bit is that when they come with their bullcrap we are supposed to lend a sympathetic ear to them.

[Arthur Cousland]

I find it funny, in a way, that Isabela doesn't seem to regret turning against Hawke during Night Terrors. She seems to only regret that she doesn't get her boat.

My Hawkes usually go with Isabela because I like the adventure-seeker types. She reminds me of Leliana, minus the whole religious side.

For the jackass thing, I nominate sarcastic Hawke, when they bring Ninette's ring to her husband.  "I couldn't find your wife.  Here's a ring, it looks pricey!"

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 18 décembre 2011 - 05:22 .

[TEWR]

Nah, it's sarcastic Hawke when Saemus is killed in the Chantry.

[sylvanaerie]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

I find it funny, in a way, that Isabela doesn't seem to regret turning against Hawke during Night Terrors. She seems to only regret that she doesn't get her boat.

My Hawkes usually go with Isabela because I like the adventure-seeker types. She reminds me of Leliana, minus the whole religious side.

For the jackass thing, I nominate sarcastic Hawke, when they bring Ninette's ring to her husband.  "I couldn't find your wife.  Here's a ring, it looks pricey!"

Sarcastic Hawke makes me laugh.  My favorite line is the insensitive comment sarcastic Hawke says to Emeric when he/she brings back the bag of bones. 

Hawke:"Recognize your mage?"
Bethany:"You're horrible!"
Emeric:"Show some respect!"

Indeed, I wanted to shove my steelplated boot up Kit's ass when she said that, but it was pretty damn funny at the time.

[Arthur Cousland]

How about the boneless women line?

If anything, I like how the npcs respond appropriately, "Show some respect.".  I'd hate to get the same response with all of the dialogue tones.

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 18 décembre 2011 - 05:39 .