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[wright1978]

It is obviously crazy to expect someone creating a trilogy to plan ahead and not create half assed reasons to sideline characters once they get to the third part.

[Someone With Mass]

Arcadian Legend wrote...
Yeah, but those would be missions tailor made to fit Shepard going solo I'm sure, like in Arrival. I'm talking about the option to do missions/assignments that are meant to have two other squaddies with you but alone. It would be sucidal, but crazy mad fun.

Hey, I don't know.

There could very well be a mission like that.

[jcraft]

Ticktank wrote...

Total Biscuit wrote...

Didn't you know jcraft? ALL Garrus and especially Tali fans are retarded perverts completely detached from reality, and none of the other fanbases ever have any creepy idiots or perverts obsessing over the other, more grown up to be a fan of characters. It's just a fact. FACT!

Declaring yourself a member of a ridiculed group and proudly celebrating the pathetic elements of it doesn't make you any less pathetic. But its a good try nonetheless, the generalizations especially.

Im not declaring myself a member of any character fan-group. I just like Garrus and this specific avatar. Simple like that.

I'm still waiting for that developer tweet. It'll be really interesting to read, I'm sure. If they can allegedly CONFIRM that piece of information and yet declare everything in the leaks as 'unconfirmed', they should become politicians.

Sorry - unfortunate news for you. Im wasted almost all time of last 2 hours to dig throught Twitter thread to find a confirmation of this info, and I dont intend to waste more of my time just to confirm that i knew about that before the script leak (don't readed it anyway). It was confirmed, believe or not. But to find it in bazilion of tweets will take to much time for me.

Modifié par jcraft, 15 décembre 2011 - 03:20 .

[jcraft]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Oh look, this thread turned into character and fanbase bashing overnight. Charming.

Well, thats how BSN looks almost everyday. Sadly.

Modifié par jcraft, 15 décembre 2011 - 03:58 .

[wright1978]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Oh look, this thread turned into character and fanbase bashing overnight. Charming.

That's an obiovus side effect of Bioware's actions.

[HK-90210]

wright1978 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Oh look, this thread turned into character and fanbase bashing overnight. Charming.

That's an obiovus side effect of Bioware's actions.

Right, because on the internets, nobody is responsible for what they say. It's all somebody else's fault. Bioware should have seen this coming. And come to think of it, why didn't they see the 2007 recession coming and find a way to stop it? They obviously can't do anything right. Why do I even bother buying their games?

[wright1978]

CastonFolarus wrote...

Right, because on the internets, nobody is responsible for what they say. It's all somebody else's fault. Bioware should have seen this coming. And come to think of it, why didn't they see the 2007 recession coming and find a way to stop it? They obviously can't do anything right. Why do I even bother buying their games?

You've obviously never experienced real life arguments either. Arguments often tend to devolve and become personal slanging matches. That's not to say it is what you want to happen but when emotions run high stuff is said in the heat of the moment.

I didn't know the recession was a game Bioware developed. I have to say i'm very much enjoying the current sequel.

[HK-90210]

wright1978 wrote...
You've obviously never experienced real life arguments either. Arguments often tend to devolve and become personal slanging matches. That's not to say it is what you want to happen but when emotions run high stuff is said in the heat of the moment.

I didn't know the recession was a game Bioware developed. I have to say i'm very much enjoying the current sequel.

You got me there. I don't have opinions strong enough to get into a full-fledged argument. I love a good debate, but I usually bail before it gets to the point of yelling. So you'd be right on that point.

And what was the title to that sequel again? I keep losing track. They''ve changed the series so much, I barely recognize it. I mean, first, Bioware switches the main cast in the 2008 election, then they have that whole subplot in the Wisconsin and just added the new 'Wall Street Movement' faction. Still not sure how I feel about them. They add conflict, sure, but are they really a balanced organization? Bioware's portrayal of them leaves something to be desired.

Pre-post Edit: Wow, this thread really derailed. In answer to your question, OP, yes, you can still choose your squadmates for missions.

[wright1978]

CastonFolarus wrote...

And what was the title to that sequel again?

Sovereign debt crisis. I thought i'd killed that reaper but apparently not.

[Ieldra]

wright1978 wrote...
It is obviously crazy to expect someone creating a trilogy to plan ahead and not create half assed reasons to sideline characters once they get to the third part.

Indeed. I recall Mac Walters asking himself in an interview what they were thinking when creating twelve disposable team members for ME2. I can answer that question: they didn't. Not enough, anyway. I find it incomprehensible that nobody had the idea that this might cause problems.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 décembre 2011 - 06:04 .

[mjh417]

Okay I havent read the script but I did read the spoilers on this thread so now I know the 7 permanent squad members dictated by the "leaked script," though only one was a surprise/shock (im very intrigued to see how that can be!!!!), but now Im left thinking that there just has to be more to it than this. Now Im not interested in any spoilers as to what going on with Miranda in ME3, Im avoiding that at all costs, but in general I find it kind of crazy that Bioware can make Garrus and Tali permanent squad-mates so easily but apparently no Miranda who is HARDER to kill in the suicide mission, was an extremely popular love interest, and has a very significant plot tie to Cerberus. I love Garrus and Tali, Garrus is my FAVORITE character, I think Bioware is absolutely right in making those two permanent squadmates, and I'm really happy about it cause I love them both, but in ME2 my main team was always Garrus and Miranda and I so want to continue with that into ME3, the final game. Someone should be on the permanent roster to represent ME2 and I think Miranda should definitely be that pick (though yes I suppose the secret spoiler character sort of fills that function). It also just seems crazy that Bioware wouldn't give you the option to recruit a different surviving ME2 character to replace either Garrus or Tali should they have died in ME2. Im hoping that in the time since the "leaked script" was first written that some of these things were addressed and that if Miranda plot wise could be available, they saw fit to make her a member. If not than Im very intrigued to find out what Bioware decided to do about non permanent squadmate love interests.

[ArkkAngel007]

Ieldra2 wrote...

wright1978 wrote...
It is obviously crazy to expect someone creating a trilogy to plan ahead and not create half assed reasons to sideline characters once they get to the third part.

Indeed. I recall Mac Walters asking himself in an interview what they were thinking when creating twelve disposable team members for ME2. I can answer that question: they didn't. Not enough, anyway. I find it incomprehensible that nobody had the idea that this might cause problems.

I'm not trying to start anything here, just putting in some perspective.

I think Mac was mostly talking about how they weren't thinking when they made it so Shepard could die in the Suicide Mission, considering they had a third game to carry on to.  Yes, he said it's providing a lot of challenges due to having to keep up with all the outcomes, and that is bound to cause some issues when trying to develop the culminating narrative, but his point had little to do with having every ME2 character being put into focus.

But not every character is going to be in the spotlight.  That's not bad writing or horrible planning.  They had to make the decision of which characters they felt served the main story best alongside Shepard, and then made the effort to interweave all these additional characters into the narrative so that fans could at least interact with them in some way.  

So try to have more respect for these guys, because they are doing their best in giving you your characters while giving an amazing story. 

To get back on topic, of course you will be able to choose squadmates.  I just wonder if there will be more missions like the Loyalty ones where you have to bring certain individuals.

[The Spamming Troll]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I'm not trying to start anything here, just putting in some perspective.

I think Mac was mostly talking about how they weren't thinking when they made it so Shepard could die in the Suicide Mission, considering they had a third game to carry on to.  Yes, he said it's providing a lot of challenges due to having to keep up with all the outcomes, and that is bound to cause some issues when trying to develop the culminating narrative, but his point had little to do with having every ME2 character being put into focus.

But not every character is going to be in the spotlight.  That's not bad writing or horrible planning.  They had to make the decision of which characters they felt served the main story best alongside Shepard, and then made the effort to interweave all these additional characters into the narrative so that fans could at least interact with them in some way.  

So try to have more respect for these guys, because they are doing their best in giving you your characters while giving an amazing story. 

To get back on topic, of course you will be able to choose squadmates.  I just wonder if there will be more missions like the Loyalty ones where you have to bring certain individuals.

i played ME2, so i can say easily i dont respect them. well idk if respect is the right word. whats the opposite of apreciateing something imensly? thats how i feel about bioware and ME2.

does that mean i shouldnt be here to discuss ME3, becasue im not a brown nosing biowaredrone who takes a devs cleanup tweet 1.5 years after release as cannon in ME2? nah. im glad theres more then one opinion floating around here.

[Hatchetman77]

Any word about possable launch day expansions that would give you more companions, like Exiled Prince for DA2?  I could see a potential cash grab by making a launch day expansion that let you add a pair of companions like Jacob and Miranda or Grunt and Jack as permanent squaddies.  After DA2 I don't trust BioWare to not try to find ways to gouge their customer base by releasing an incomplete game, pushing preorders to sell said incomplete game, then making you pay for expansions to actually make the game palatable. 

[Chuvvy]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Yes, you get to choose between the 7 permanent squad members (less if you fail horribly at the SM).

Or if you don't have the DLC character.

Are there any squamates actually comning back from the SM? Oh yeah Garrus, not sure if the other on has been announced yet.

Modifié par Slidell505, 15 décembre 2011 - 07:21 .

[ArkkAngel007]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I'm not trying to start anything here, just putting in some perspective.

I think Mac was mostly talking about how they weren't thinking when they made it so Shepard could die in the Suicide Mission, considering they had a third game to carry on to.  Yes, he said it's providing a lot of challenges due to having to keep up with all the outcomes, and that is bound to cause some issues when trying to develop the culminating narrative, but his point had little to do with having every ME2 character being put into focus.

But not every character is going to be in the spotlight.  That's not bad writing or horrible planning.  They had to make the decision of which characters they felt served the main story best alongside Shepard, and then made the effort to interweave all these additional characters into the narrative so that fans could at least interact with them in some way.  

So try to have more respect for these guys, because they are doing their best in giving you your characters while giving an amazing story. 

To get back on topic, of course you will be able to choose squadmates.  I just wonder if there will be more missions like the Loyalty ones where you have to bring certain individuals.

i played ME2, so i can say easily i dont respect them. well idk if respect is the right word. whats the opposite of apreciateing something imensly? thats how i feel about bioware and ME2.

does that mean i shouldnt be here to discuss ME3, becasue im not a brown nosing biowaredrone who takes a devs cleanup tweet 1.5 years after release as cannon in ME2? nah. im glad theres more then one opinion floating around here.

Not sure what any tweet has to do with canon, other than some clarifications on the Proto-Human Reaper (which was poorly done).  Nor have I told anyone to not express their opinion on this forum.

I only pointed out that these writers, no matter what they do, are going to cause people to go berserk because they have to prioritize characters into certain roles.  As for your insult, I have quite a productive life outside of these forums to be busy brown nosing and raging on here.  I offered my perspective on the situation after some critical thought.  

[ArkkAngel007]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Are there any squamates actually comning back from the SM? Oh yeah Garrus, not sure if the other on has been announced yet.

Tali's the other one. And she was announced as a squadmate long ago.

I have to wonder if Tali's exhile from the Flotilla will affect when she can join the crew.  I would think, since the Geth and Quarians will probably be at war, that she would be too busy for a significant part of the game to join up if she is still in the Flotilla.

[Wuartz]

I hope Bioware knows what they're doing. I've just read the spoilers in this thread, who the last two permenant squadmates are. I'm a little disappointed, they're not what I'd expect. I was hoping for at least one more squadmate from the Suicide mission...

I was also really looking foward to a batarian squadmate... *sigh*

Modifié par Wuartz, 15 décembre 2011 - 07:32 .

[LucidStrike]

They'd better not try explainin' why Shepherd's lover Jack is not with him by having her breakup with him. =_=

[Ticktank]

jcraft wrote...

I'm still waiting for that developer tweet. It'll be really interesting to read, I'm sure. If they can allegedly CONFIRM that piece of information and yet declare everything in the leaks as 'unconfirmed', they should become politicians.

Sorry - unfortunate news for you. Im wasted almost all time of last 2 hours to dig throught Twitter thread to find a confirmation of this info, and I dont intend to waste more of my time just to confirm that i knew about that before the script leak (don't readed it anyway). It was confirmed, believe or not. But to find it in bazilion of tweets will take to much time for me.

Aww you actually spent 2 hours looking for that? REALLY? 

A single teardrop falls from the corner of my eye, while sentimental movie music plays in the background.

Maybe it would have helped if you know...the tweet actually existed. Or was at least mentioned in the "confirmed stuff" sticky thread. I'm touched by your efforts though. If resident loudmouths like Cthulhu can't even back that up, what chance does a working adult like yourself have?