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[C2NLY]

Sucks that they introduce 11 new characters in ME2 (which many people have grown to love) and drop them from the squadmate list and introduce them as cameos.

And as for the spoiler squadmates,(may be spoilers ahead)










The one you discover might be ok, it depends on how they develop it as a character.

The other one is just outrageous and should be frazzled and replaced with a fan favourite character,legion.

[JeffZero]

I'm quite fond of both new squadmates.

[JeffZero]

1.) That was Mac Walters in an interview with a video game magazine a few months ago. What he said was that the team hadn't fully thought through the potential ramifications of that particular decision.

2.) Casey Hudson, however, has been fairly adamant about having a general master plan for the story-at-large from the first, and has not gone against that.

[C2NLY]

i understand it must be hard to keep the fans favourites in mind.

But why the spoilers have to be squadmates and not just crewmates, all you really need to do with spoiler P is talk and get info on the reapers, and Spoiler R is not needed, a new character i.e vega was not needed.

So instead of having these three squadmate, why not have the highest voted ME2 squadmates, r even better, your own choice of 3.

[JeffZero]

Rojahar wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

2.) Casey Hudson, however, has been fairly adamant about having a general master plan for the story-at-large from the first, and has not gone against that.

And George Lucas insists he had the prequels all planned out since the the OT. I'm sure ME was just as planned out from the start as Darth Vader building C3PO.

I'm not here to argue what's actually going on in Casey Hudson's head with you. I'm here to tell you what the developers actually stated versus your claim that they've said otherwise.

Anyone who wishes to believe ME's development is on-par with that of Star Wars can believe so. You can think that Hudson is Lucas in that regard all you want, I have no issue with that. I'm just correcting the misinformation that he's claimed otherwise.

You don't have your confirmation yet. That's all.

[JeffZero]

My paint job has been misinterpreted. I'm sorry you don't like the color.

If I were interested in making statements like that I'd be working for the company's marketing department. Rather, all I'm saying is that Casey Hudson has stated the team has a master plan they've worked from since the beginning.

Didn't say they had every character figured out. Didn't say they had every squadmate selection figured out. Didn't say they had every fight scene, every dialogue snippet, every frakking revelation figured out. Just said there's been no confirmation against such a thing from Hudson. #Corrections. Things of that nature. That's all I said. There's enough unwarranted vitriol on these forums without you or anyone else going around claiming that Casey Hudson has confirmed the team has no idea what the hell they've been writing.

Modifié par JeffZero, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:25 .

[JeffZero]

Rojahar wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

My paint job has been misinterpreted. I'm sorry you don't like the color.

If I were interested in making statements like that I'd be working for the company's marketing department. Rather, all I'm saying is that Casey Hudson has stated the team has a master plan they've worked from since the beginning.

Didn't say they had every character figured out. Didn't say they had every squadmate selection figured out. Didn't say they had every fight scene, every dialogue snippet, every frakking revelation figured out. Just said there's been no confirmation against such a thing from Hudson. #Corrections. Things of that nature. That's all I said. There's enough unwarranted vitriol on these forums without you or anyone else going around claiming that Casey Hudson has confirmed the team has no idea what the hell they've been writing.

I didn't say that. No reason to jump the gun with hyperdefensiveness. I only dared to say that they've admitted to making things up as they go along based on what they thought was cool in the moment, which they did. You're the one trying to assert I said they've no idea what the hell they're doing. Calm down?

You said Casey Hudson (granted, you said you weren't sure of course, but I don't think this part is terribly relevant) confirmed for you and everyone else, plain as day, that they don't particularly know what they're doing.

Hyperdefensiveness is making bold, idiotic statements like insisting that BioWare's writers are the greatest ever in the history of anything and sticking one's fingers in their ears whenever mistakes are pointed out. That's not what I've done.

Maybe I misread your initial post on the matter. In re-reading it, I'm still not differing much from seeing you as claiming there's been confirmation that they don't know what they're doing in general. Maybe that's not what you intended to convey, and if so, then fair enough. 

[JeffZero]

This is not hysteria.

[JeffZero]

"They're literally just making up the series as they go along, based on what they think is cool in the moment. Many already knew it and thought it was obvious, but it's confirmed now."

That's what you said that I allegedly 'flipped' at, by the way. Again, if you were saying something other than I interpreted, then whoops.

[DxWill10]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I'm not trying to start anything here, just putting in some perspective.

I think Mac was mostly talking about how they weren't thinking when they made it so Shepard could die in the Suicide Mission, considering they had a third game to carry on to.  Yes, he said it's providing a lot of challenges due to having to keep up with all the outcomes, and that is bound to cause some issues when trying to develop the culminating narrative, but his point had little to do with having every ME2 character being put into focus.

But not every character is going to be in the spotlight.  That's not bad writing or horrible planning.  They had to make the decision of which characters they felt served the main story best alongside Shepard, and then made the effort to interweave all these additional characters into the narrative so that fans could at least interact with them in some way.  

So try to have more respect for these guys, because they are doing their best in giving you your characters while giving an amazing story. 

To get back on topic, of course you will be able to choose squadmates.  I just wonder if there will be more missions like the Loyalty ones where you have to bring certain individuals.

i played ME2, so i can say easily i dont respect them. well idk if respect is the right word. whats the opposite of apreciateing something imensly? thats how i feel about bioware and ME2.

does that mean i shouldnt be here to discuss ME3, becasue im not a brown nosing biowaredrone who takes a devs cleanup tweet 1.5 years after release as cannon in ME2? nah. im glad theres more then one opinion floating around here.

'Hate' is the opposite of that.  I don't understand.  Why would you be on BSN if you hated ME2?  Do you choose to eat chinese food when you hate the way it tastes?  Or does the prospect of something new on China Kitchen's menu really make you want to stick around long enough to find out?

[The Spamming Troll]

^

a combination of my adoration for ME1, and my feelings that ME3 is more in line with what ME2 should have been.

ME2 isnt the reason why im here at all. well, except to complain about enemy protections, and TCs ofcorse.

i mean this is the ME3 forum isnt it?

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 19 décembre 2011 - 01:23 .

[MewtwoJosh]

Can someone pm me the 2 mysterious squadmates?

[Bluko]

Wait I thought Tali wasn't a permament squadmate?

No offense, but if she was Bioware would be using her as much as possible to advertise ME3 even at the risk of spoilers. And they ain't, so that makes it pretty clear to me Tali is at best a Temp. Squadmate. I warned people about this. I'd say we were lucky we got the option of having Garrus back for the duration. (Of course what could Garrus actually do on his own in ME3? He ain't a Spectre, he left C-Sec, and he tried to be Batman for awhile. No much else he can do I'm afraid but follow Shepard.)

I'm surprised they didn't drag Tali along due to her fandom, but having 2 potentially dead squadmates is rather problematic. Especially when you have only have team of 6/7 to begin with. It's simple math that two Tech Heavy Squadmates K.I.A. has the potential to completely unbalance the gameplay for different players in ME3.

I don't think it's right punish someone who actually did lose squadmates playing ME2. (It was expected that most people would lose a few in the Suicide Mission.) Maybe in terms of the Story, but it's important to remember squadmates are very much a part of gameplay as well.

[Someone With Mass]

JeffZero wrote...

I'm quite fond of both new squadmates.

Me too. I had some doubts at first, but both of them redeemed themselves quite nicely.

And yes, you'll be able to choose your squadmates at all times.

[Someone With Mass]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Wait I thought Tali wasn't a permament squadmate?

No offense, but if she was Bioware would be using her as much as possible to advertise ME3 even at the risk of spoilers. And they ain't, so that makes it pretty clear to me Tali is at best a Temp. Squadmate.

You're funny. I take it you didn't read the spoilers.

The squadmates are Liara, Tali, Garrus, Ashley/Kaidan, James, secret squadmate #1 and #2.

That is, if they survived ME2.

[jcolt]

so other than grunt bein able to die why wouldn't grunt be a perma squad member you are his battlemaster maybe him goin to support his clan on tuchanka or somethin i guess

[Bluko]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Wait I thought Tali wasn't a permament squadmate?

No offense, but if she was Bioware would be using her as much as possible to advertise ME3 even at the risk of spoilers. And they ain't, so that makes it pretty clear to me Tali is at best a Temp. Squadmate.

You're funny. I take it you didn't read the spoilers.

I have some.

Though no I do not have this "complete" script for ME3. I still find it odd that the entire script would simply be sitting in an unfinished Beta. Why is something like that a part of the game files? I would't think the text display in the game reads from the actual script. Though from what little I've garnered I've seen nothing to indicate her being a team player.  (Especially since I heard she's an Admiral.)

[Bluko]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Wait I thought Tali wasn't a permament squadmate?

No offense, but if she was Bioware would be using her as much as possible to advertise ME3 even at the risk of spoilers. And they ain't, so that makes it pretty clear to me Tali is at best a Temp. Squadmate.

You're funny. I take it you didn't read the spoilers.

The squadmates are Liara, Tali, Garrus, Ashley/Kaidan, James, secret squadmate #1 and #2.

That is, if they survived ME2.

I need to find this alleged script.

[S.A.K]

The more I see the leak, the more I like ME3. I already like it more than ME2:whistle:

(Good think I downloaded to whole script. But its hard not to read. I spoilered too much for myself already)

Modifié par S.A.K, 19 décembre 2011 - 03:14 .