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[Micon2]

What is the most effective way of overcoming the Rage effect that Lorne uses in the The Trial?
I have to keep running around frantically till it wears off.
Tashas laughter seemed to work in the scenario I won but Kelhgar tried twice.

[Seagloom]

Playing a character with high armor class totals such as a bard or duelist with the expertise feat makes avoiding Lorne's blows trivial. As you discovered, mind affecting magic is useful as well. Rage may grant a will save bonus, but it remains a barbarian/frenzied berserker's weakest defense.

As a bog standard fighter, Khelgar will always have a harder time of it. You can try catching Lorne in an improved knockdown loop, but that's unlikely to work. Another issue is that the KC can force Lorne into his rage state by succeeding at a personal taunt. He will burn up most of his invincibility in the opening rounds. Khelgar lacks the charisma to pull that off. I'm unsure he even gets the option to try.

Modifié par Seagloom, 15 décembre 2011 - 01:24 .

[M. Rieder]

Try having a potion of invisibility on hand. Lorne can't hit what Lorne can't see.

[Kaldor Silverwand]

Nothing wrong with running around until it wears off. Yknow, "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee".

[Louisdeer]

considering he only uses the rage ability after his HP dropped below certain level, i would try save my knock down until the edge of the HP level and then smash him directly to death before he can use that ability.

My pc is built as a horrible melee fighter/Divine Champ/rogue, however, I still have no problem to just stand still and win.

My kelhgar is a monk with NO wisdom. His stunning fists and Ring of Ram made Lorne has no chance to fight back at all.

Well....Runing around is not Epic....Time to use all traps and stuff and face roll......

[Dann-J]

I suspect his 'Deathless Frenzy' is probably scripted to occur, so I doubt you can circumvent it with a well-timed blow. There's a good chance he's got the 'immortal' flag set initially.

When I played as a Shadowdancer, I just hid from him and snuck off for a while until his 'Deathless Frenzy' wore off. Then it was sneak-attack time. My melee characters with high armour classes just toughed it out and took the occasional blow.

Monks should be able to run rings around him until he's killable again.

[Micon2]

Yes I feel Lorne has immortal cover for a time ,
My pure bard did really well, and I have had playthrus where Khelgar has done ok but that was quite a few years ago when nwn2 first came out.
I am really enjoying this revist, the game has a great story.
only Veaarie (not spelt correctly) bugs me for credulity in not possessing a Silver sword
buts thats me I reckon she she should have had one.

[Bayz]

1.Kick his ass until he rages
2.Use potion of invisibility and move out of his reach changing position until he stands there wondering where you are
3.Wait until the rage ceases
4.???
5.Profit

[Bayz]

Micon2 wrote...

Yes I feel Lorne has immortal cover for a time ,
My pure bard did really well, and I have had playthrus where Khelgar has done ok but that was quite a few years ago when nwn2 first came out.
I am really enjoying this revist, the game has a great story.
only Veaarie (not spelt correctly) bugs me for credulity in not possessing a Silver sword
buts thats me I reckon she she should have had one.

With my duelist bard I just used that song of sanctuary, after all I knew frenzied berserker from the p&p so I knew there was nothing i could do until the rage stopped.

Then I kicked his sorry loser's ass, lucky me that I had an extensive experience as DM with a group of über power grinding players, you taught me a lot of stuff guys, thank you.

[Zaxares]

My Generalist Wizard just laughed at him as he re-cast Greater Invisibility.

[Mr Ordinary]

Micon2 wrote...

What is the most effective way of overcoming the Rage effect that Lorne uses in the The Trial?
I have to keep running around frantically till it wears off.
Tashas laughter seemed to work in the scenario I won but Kelhgar tried twice.

Lorne's frenzy (or rage) is Constitution dependent in duration. It lasts 3 + Con modifier rounds (and I think Lorne has the Extended Rage feat as well, adding 5 rounds to the duration) so anything which hurts his Con score will shorten the duration of his Frenzy.

Personally, I find the Curse spell to be very effective.

There is also the use of poisons.

This is actually hinted at in the discussions you have in the chapel prior to the fight. And, you fortuitously find some poisons on the corpses of some enemies fought relatively soon before you have to fight Lorne. I'm not sure if they do CON score damage, but it would be worth checking.

[NoirAuteur]

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the conversation with Georg during the Harvest Fair, on how Cormick beat Lorne in the Harvest Brawl.

Stay out of his way and wait until he's "small enough to beat" being the crux.

[Sarnian12]

I had a bug with this where Lorne's rage never wore off (I gave up after running around and around the arena for fifteen minutes, stopping occasionally to blast him from a distance while my Skeleton Warrior chased after us both, landing an occasional critical on Lorne).

Eventually I reloaded an earlier game and won easily.