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[Oblivious]

Hellbound555 wrote...

–Ash

Death closes all: but something ere the end
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.
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what does that quote mean at the end of the letter?

Ooh, time to show off my college education. First time in my life such an opportunity presented itself. Waste of $50,000 <_<

It's from Tennyson's Ulysses. It's a tale near the end of Ulysses' (also known as the Trojan War hero Odysseus) life. He decides to get his old friends together and go out to sea one last time. It's a long poem, but the jist is that near the end of his life he finally understood why Achilles was willing to die a short life in the war rather than live a long life in peace. Ulysses concludes that he will spend his last moments at sea, seeking adventure like when he was younger, that way when he dies his legend will rise to the same level as the gods.

It's easy to see why this poem would apply to one such as Shepard BTW Tennyson rocks!

[Iakus]

Hellbound555 wrote...

–Ash

Death closes all: but something ere the end
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.
----

what does that quote mean at the end of the letter?

It's from the poem "Ulysses" by Alfred Lord Tennyson.

It means that while death is the end, before you die, you can accomlish something great; acts of heroism that are remembered long after you're gone.

Given Shepard freaking died at the frakking start of ME2, I find Bioware's choice of poem ironic.  "Ere the end" means before!  Before!  Not after!

Modifié par iakus, 16 décembre 2011 - 06:22 .

[Oblivious]

Lord Alfred Tennyson. Lord is a title, not a middle name lol. Also he was English so ere meant "near" not "before." Tennyson loves writing heroic epics of valiant warriors going against impossible odds, so it's to be expected (though still nice) his works would be included in the series.

[Lancelot Albion]

Manly tears have been shed can't wait to have her back on my team in ME3!

Modifié par Lancelot X, 16 décembre 2011 - 06:49 .

[Oblivious]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Lord Alfred Tennyson. Lord is a title, not a middle name lol. Also he was English so ere meant "near" not "before." Tennyson loves writing heroic epics of valiant warriors going against impossible odds, so it's to be expected (though still nice) his works would be included in the series.

Which makes me wonder why they don't include Homer? Homeric epics are filled with heros who struggle against gods.

Also, there's a joke about an American who named her son Senator.

You ever read Homer? Those poems are stories, hundreds, if not thousands depending on translation, of pages long. And they all fit with a certain context. You can't randomly pull 3 lines out of an Epic a thousand pages long and expect it to make sense. Tennyson captures the feel of Homer (www.nationalcenter.org/ChargeoftheLightBrigade.html) but is concise enough to grab quotes from.

I did a report on the guy, absolutely love his work.

[Iakus]

Oblivious wrote...

Lord Alfred Tennyson. Lord is a title, not a middle name lol. Also he was English so ere meant "near" not "before." Tennyson loves writing heroic epics of valiant warriors going against impossible odds, so it's to be expected (though still nice) his works would be included in the series.

Ugh that' what I get for being on the boards so late!

[Homebound]

Oblivious wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Lord Alfred Tennyson. Lord is a title, not a middle name lol. Also he was English so ere meant "near" not "before." Tennyson loves writing heroic epics of valiant warriors going against impossible odds, so it's to be expected (though still nice) his works would be included in the series.

Which makes me wonder why they don't include Homer? Homeric epics are filled with heros who struggle against gods.

Also, there's a joke about an American who named her son Senator.

You ever read Homer? Those poems are stories, hundreds, if not thousands depending on translation, of pages long. And they all fit with a certain context. You can't randomly pull 3 lines out of an Epic a thousand pages long and expect it to make sense. Tennyson captures the feel of Homer (www.nationalcenter.org/ChargeoftheLightBrigade.html) but is concise enough to grab quotes from.

I did a report on the guy, absolutely love his work.

it cost u 50grand to answer my question? damn, u got ripped.

[OmegaXI]

[Oblivious]

Hellbound555 wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

You ever read Homer? Those poems are stories, hundreds, if not thousands depending on translation, of pages long. And they all fit with a certain context. You can't randomly pull 3 lines out of an Epic a thousand pages long and expect it to make sense. Tennyson captures the feel of Homer (www.nationalcenter.org/ChargeoftheLightBrigade.html) but is concise enough to grab quotes from.

I did a report on the guy, absolutely love his work.

it cost u 50grand to answer my question? damn, u got ripped.

I find college to be like algebra, trigonometry, and the periodic table. Everyone wants you to know it, but you'll never use it. Ever. Waste of 4 years and 50k dollars. Don't think I'll even return for a Masters unless my job requires it <_<

[CptData]

Hellbound555 wrote...

–Ash

Death closes all: but something ere the end
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.
----

what does that quote mean at the end of the letter?

It's the same quote Ash said in the night before Eelos ... err Ilos.

Think she wants to show that she still believes their relationship can be continued one day. It's like "kicking open a closed door again".

[geertmans]

Lol I just started a new playthrough in the months leading up to ME3 so I'll have my own perfect import save and I'm about to go to Virmire. I really wanted to let Kaidan live this time since in all my other playthrough's Ashley lived. But after hearing this message I can't help but to transform Kaidan into a crater

[evilmunky80]

That was awesomesauce, I may have actually taken notice of the letters if they'd all been like that.

[XyleJKH]

yeah this is perfect. Wonder why they never had them read this in game... oh well better late then never

[Stardusk78]

****, have to wait until I am home from work for this...

[Had-to-say]

Where was I at when this happened? This thread is all most a day old and I didn't see it.

[Eski.Moe]

That was awesome. Very kind of her to do.

[Hyperion II]

OmegaXI wrote...

Same here

[Cloaking_Thane]

This was a very nice thing to do, and I agree could have easily been in the main game! Thanks for the fan service!

[JenMaxon]

Kimberley and Raphael are great - so nice to see such appreciation here.

[CptData]

Since it was in the comments on that page:

Youtube: Kimberly Brooks reading as video

[enayasoul]

I must say that was pretty amazing to hear Ashley's voice in the letter. I almost got choked up. Adds a bit more meaning and feeling behind it than just a bunch of words. Nice job Kimberly!

Modifié par enayasoul, 16 décembre 2011 - 06:46 .

[JSwisha]

Since some people were requesting a video with this recording along with scenes/music, I went ahead and created one:



I pieced it together rather quickly so it probably won't blow anyone away. I may go back and re-do it later when I have more time.

Modifié par JSwisha, 17 décembre 2011 - 09:53 .