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[ObserverStatus]

*wasn't contributing to a spam thread*

Modifié par bobobo878, 17 décembre 2011 - 04:38 .

[CenturyCrow]

slimgrin wrote...

cmdrogogov wrote...
Sorry, Bioware.

Isn't this off topic? Unless EA is one of the companies advocating SOPA.

EA is a supporter of SOPA, as are SONY, Universal, Disney, MPAA, RIAA--essentially all the big media corps...

I said goodbye to SONY and Ubisoft last year. The gaming companies are strangling the PC gaming industry.

AFAIK, O R I G I N is the major off topic still, even in Off-Topic.

[1136342t54_]

bobobo878 wrote...

The way I understand it, the Supreme Court can only smack this down if an alleged terroist challenges the law, and you can only challenge a law if you get a trial.

From what I know of this Defense act is that anyone who is brought in they are allowed a hearing every month. It can easily be challenged. Its the main reason why I don't suggest Obama imprison some of the idiotic Congressman who thought up this law lol.

Seriously its a ****ing Defense act that it seems our intelligence agencies are entirely against due to its stupidity.

[CenturyCrow]

1136342t54 wrote...
Seriously if the net was shutdown along with this idiotic Defense Act (which the Supreme court will likely smack down) I'm heading to Canada. I was already planning on it someday but it may seem to be less temporary now lol.

Not safe in Canada either. Government here is following big media's recommendations for digital locks in our copyright bill C-11 and ignoring all the input made by individuals, groups and companies advocating for fair use. Plus like the US, Canada offers some great tax breaks to the video industry; an industry that's not even in need of a bailout with record profits.

The False Link Between C-11's Digital Lock Rules and Video Game Industry Jobs
www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6206/125/

Grand theft tax break
www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/13/grand-theft-tax-break/

Thinking Germany and Europe might be the place to go, since they have great consumer watchdogs for protecting the people.

Modifié par CenturyCrow, 17 décembre 2011 - 04:43 .

[slimgrin]

CenturyCrow wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

cmdrogogov wrote...
Sorry, Bioware.

Isn't this off topic? Unless EA is one of the companies advocating SOPA.

EA is a supporter of SOPA, as are SONY, Universal, Disney, MPAA, RIAA--essentially all the big media corps...

Who likely have lobbyists 'advising' the advisors to the lugheads congress.

*sings national anthem* 

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 décembre 2011 - 04:52 .

[1136342t54_]

CenturyCrow wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...
Seriously if the net was shutdown along with this idiotic Defense Act (which the Supreme court will likely smack down) I'm heading to Canada. I was already planning on it someday but it may seem to be less temporary now lol.

Not safe in Canada either. Government here is following big media's recommendations for digital locks in our copyright bill C-11 and ignoring all the input made by individuals, groups and companies advocating for fair use. Plus like the US, Canada offers some great tax breaks to the video industry; an industry that's not even in need of a bailout with record profits.

The False Link Between C-11's Digital Lock Rules and Video Game Industry Jobs
www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6206/125/

Grand theft tax break
www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/13/grand-theft-tax-break/

Thinking Germany and Europe might be the place to go, since they have great consumer watchdogs for protecting the people.

Until the Euro crisis is settled in europe I'm not going there either. Plus at least Canada isn't idiotic enough to past legislation that will allow them to imprison its citizens indefinitely.

[slimgrin]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Isn't there anything we can do, then? This whole SOPA thing is kinda scaring me, to be honest...

I'm sure sites like Google, Youtube, etc are doing all they can. Maybe those sites have advice for people who want to make their voice heard.

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 décembre 2011 - 05:02 .

[1136342t54_]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Isn't there anything we can do, then? This whole SOPA thing is kinda scaring me, to be honest...

Remember when America was about to default due to Republican (actually Tea partiers) in congress essentially holding the nation and the world hostage if the Dems didn't agree to there terms on the budget plan? Compared to that this should make you fearless lol.

If you really want to do something write letters to congressman, attempt to organize protests online and off. There are other things you can do to bring morre people into this and use popular support to make sure this SOPA thing doesn't happen. Not saying it will work but its something lol.

[1136342t54_]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Well, you see, I'm actually really bad at political stuff, so that's why I'm easily confused at things like this, hehe...I hadn't heard of SOPA before until now. Maybe it's because I live in Europe...I take it it's a recent thing?

Well I assume it is since I've only recently been hearing about it (I've been playing new games for multiple weeks now. barely came out of my cave lol) but its likely something that has been in the works for awhile though. I still find it retarded as **** and almost as retarded as the Defense act in which Obama disappointed me by not vetoing.

[ObserverStatus]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Well, you see, I'm actually really bad at political stuff, so that's why I'm easily confused at things like this, hehe...I hadn't heard of SOPA before until now. Maybe it's because I live in Europe...I take it it's a recent thing?

Not really, it's just Klobuchar's Protect IP act back from the dead. They just had to rename it after Justin Bieber pointed out that if it passed he could be prison for his youtube pop song covers.

[Costin_Razvan]

"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

You Yankees are better leave the Wild West and go back to England to work as sewer cleaners or go to Australia to fight with spiders! Canada is awaiting you, good freezing up there and don't forget to dance with the bears!
@Ken, nice work. You made everyone to 'nevermind'!

[ObserverStatus]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

You Yankees are better leave the Wild West and go back to England to work as sewer cleaners or go to Australia to fight with spiders! Canada is awaiting you, good freezing up there and don't forget to dance with the bears!
@Ken, nice work. You made everyone to 'nevermind'!

Ew, I don't want to think about all the poisonous critters in Australia. 

[1136342t54_]

bobobo878 wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

You Yankees are better leave the Wild West and go back to England to work as sewer cleaners or go to Australia to fight with spiders! Canada is awaiting you, good freezing up there and don't forget to dance with the bears!
@Ken, nice work. You made everyone to 'nevermind'!

Ew, I don't want to think about all the poisonous critters in Australia. 

I would say nuke Australia just for safety but knowing their wildlife they will mutate into other worldy abominations.

[ObserverStatus]

1136342t54 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

You Yankees are better leave the Wild West and go back to England to work as sewer cleaners or go to Australia to fight with spiders! Canada is awaiting you, good freezing up there and don't forget to dance with the bears!
@Ken, nice work. You made everyone to 'nevermind'!

Ew, I don't want to think about all the poisonous critters in Australia. 

I would say nuke Australia just for safety but knowing their wildlife they will mutate into other worldy abominations.

I would argue that Fallout does not accurately portray nuclear physics, but then again, the "Nuke it from Orbit" argument comes from Aliens which does not portray nuclear physics accurately either.

Modifié par bobobo878, 17 décembre 2011 - 06:10 .

[Bayz]

[quote]bobobo878 wrote...

It never ceases to amaze me how their was more outcry over SOPA than the latest National Defense Authorization Act which gives the military to indefinitely detain american citizens arrested in the United States[/quote]

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Might have to do with the fact of American Government shooting American citizens affecting Americans and SOPA affecting the whole world?

[ObserverStatus]

Bayz wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

It never ceases to amaze me how their was more outcry over SOPA than the latest National Defense Authorization Act which gives the military to indefinitely detain american citizens arrested in the United States

Might have to do with the fact of American Government shooting American citizens affecting Americans and SOPA affecting the whole world? 

That's understandable if you're not from America, I just can't figure out why Americans think it's a bigger deal. I should have amde that clear.

Modifié par bobobo878, 17 décembre 2011 - 08:44 .

[1136342t54_]

bobobo878 wrote...

I would argue that Fallout does not accurately portray nuclear physics, but then again, the "Nuke it from Orbit" argument comes from Aliens which does not portray nuclear physics accurately either.

Then again that argument would only matter if the person actually wasn't joking and was being 100% serious about the Australian animals mutating.

[Enmystic]

The profession I am studying for relies heavily on the internet so I am really upset about this. After studying copyright law and censorship I am sick and tired of people trying to restrict the internet as a whole. It's unfair to those who don't participate in illegal activity. The internet affects the whole world not just the U.S., and if this thing passes everyone is going to feel it eventually.

Common sense tells me this thing isn't going to pass anyway because it's too broad and too easy to abuse.  I've been wrong before, but I really hope I'm right this time.

Modifié par Enmystic, 17 décembre 2011 - 09:55 .

[Rockworm503]

I'm amazed this thread isn't locked.
And now I totally understand why politics isn't allowed here.

[Bayz]

Politics? You got me thinking this was about Australian Godzilla.

[1136342t54_]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I'm amazed this thread isn't locked.
And now I totally understand why politics isn't allowed here.

Why? There really isn't much of a argument on here or heated debates. This thread is fairly light stuff when compared to real heated political discussions.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 17 décembre 2011 - 11:49 .