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[XxTheTruthxX]

I wanted to know who you choose and why? just genreal conversation

Who did you put second in command to lead the fire team?  (Mine was Garrus my right hand man)

Who did you send to go through the vents?  ( i choosed Tali always admired her tecniqual skills)

Who did you choose to escort the survivers back to ship?  ( i choosed Grunt. One man army i knew in his hands they would get back alive.)

Who did you choose to help you through the seeker swarm?  ( i choosed Samara no one matched her biotic ability)

Who did you take into the final battle against the human reaper?  ( i choosed Thane & Miranda, becuase my shepard was in love with miranda and thane because he has proven himself worthy to me countless times and being overly skilled in combat, plus i needed garrus to lead the team and hold the line)

Who Died?  (legion died holiding the line)

[S.A.K]

If you leave Miranda and Garrus to hold the line while you fight the human reaper, no one will die(if they are loyal ofc). Send Mordin escort the crew because he got the highest chance to die. Take Thane and Tali when fighting human reaper(tali got 2nd highest chance to die holding the line). Choose Samara to keep the barrier and select Jack to go with you. shockwave is most effective against husks. Both Garrus and Miranda are the best to lead fire teams.

[Colintastic]

I'm going to assume you've played through once. For each decisions there are only like 2 people you can pick who won't result in getting someone dead. There are 2 exceptions. the escort back to the ship can be anybody loyal, and the 2 people you take with you to the human reaper just have to be loyal. I assume you lost Legion because he wasn't loyal.

So really the exceptions are the only times where the player has any real choice in the matter (unless they want to kill someone).

In that case I always send Tali back with the escort since her combat effectiveness is practically nil
and I always take Mordin and Miranda into the reaper core. Mordin because he has incinerate and that does the most damage to armor, and Miranda because you can get her to resign from Cerberus. I don't know if that line from her is going to affect ME3 but I hope it does. I always thought it was a rather poor choice on her part since Cerberus still knows where her sister is.

[Sebbe1337o]

Fire team leader, Garrus both times.
Either Tali or Legion through the vents.
Mordin escorted crew.
Jack and Tali on the final run, since they're the weakest. If everyone is loyal, everyone survives if I take them or others who BW consideres "weak".


EDIT: Biotic shield always Samara.

Modifié par Sebbe1337o, 18 décembre 2011 - 06:01 .

[HolyAvenger]

I was really surprised that last time when I played it I took Jack and Jacob to the Reapernator and neither of them had any lines regarding what TIM said/blowing up the base.

I've done a few different combinations. If I want someone to have a poignant death scene I get them command the second fire-team. I've taken Legion/Mordin, Miranda/Garrus, Samara/Thane and Jacob/Jack combos to the last fight.

[ediskrad327]

Fire team- first Garrus later acob
Vents-Tali
Escort-Mordin
Biotic shield-Samara
Final battle-Tali & Legion

no casualties

Modifié par ediskrad327, 18 décembre 2011 - 06:14 .

[Labrev]

S.A.K wrote...

If you leave Miranda and Garrus to hold the line while you fight the human reaper, no one will die(if they are loyal ofc). Send Mordin escort the crew because he got the highest chance to die. Take Thane and Tali when fighting human reaper(tali got 2nd highest chance to die holding the line). Choose Samara to keep the barrier and select Jack to go with you. shockwave is most effective against husks. Both Garrus and Miranda are the best to lead fire teams.

Miranda? Miranda is no more valuable to hold-the-line than Jacob/Thane/Samara/Legion, and has a greater chance to die than any of them.

The HTL heavy-hitters are Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed. Leave them behind and all will survive.

[Frozen Mind]

2nd team leader: Garrus
Vents: Tali
Survivors escort: Zaeed
Biotic shield: Samara
Final: Miranda and Mordin
KIA: -
Topic will be closed (ME3 not related) in...

[13commander]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

If you leave Miranda and Garrus to hold the line while you fight the human reaper, no one will die(if they are loyal ofc). Send Mordin escort the crew because he got the highest chance to die. Take Thane and Tali when fighting human reaper(tali got 2nd highest chance to die holding the line). Choose Samara to keep the barrier and select Jack to go with you. shockwave is most effective against husks. Both Garrus and Miranda are the best to lead fire teams.

Miranda? Miranda is no more valuable to hold-the-line than Jacob/Thane/Samara/Legion, and has a greater chance to die than any of them.

The HTL heavy-hitters are Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed. Leave them behind and all will survive.

Actually Miranda has the highest chance of survival above any of the squad, if loyal, and is also hard to kill even if
unloyal

[HolyAvenger]

Actually you can leave any 2 of Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed behind and your whole team will survive.

Miranda is hard to kill, but doesn't do much for the hold-the-line segment score.

[robarcool]

ME3 related? Seriously?

[BatmanPWNS]

Can't be bothered to say my pick but I made sure they all end up with someone dead. xP

[BatmanPWNS]

13commander wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

If you leave Miranda and Garrus to hold the line while you fight the human reaper, no one will die(if they are loyal ofc). Send Mordin escort the crew because he got the highest chance to die. Take Thane and Tali when fighting human reaper(tali got 2nd highest chance to die holding the line). Choose Samara to keep the barrier and select Jack to go with you. shockwave is most effective against husks. Both Garrus and Miranda are the best to lead fire teams.

Miranda? Miranda is no more valuable to hold-the-line than Jacob/Thane/Samara/Legion, and has a greater chance to die than any of them.

The HTL heavy-hitters are Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed. Leave them behind and all will survive.

Actually Miranda has the highest chance of survival above any of the squad, if loyal, and is also hard to kill even if
unloyal

Actually she really doesn't have the highest chance of surviving if you tell her to hold the line, Grunt does.

[Nightwriter]

robarcool wrote...

ME3 related? Seriously?

I've thought this in response to more than a few threads in this forum.

I suppose people are just putting their threads where the activity's at.

[Colintastic]

Why are you guys debating the "hold the line" business. In 8 playthroughs, no one has ever died for me on the line. It's not like it's hard to make that happen. Even when I was trying to kill people, no one died there. There were times when I only had about half the squad loyal to me, still of the places I killed people, the line was not one of them.

[Dark Eff3ct]

Leader of Fire Team: Miranda
Tech Specialist: Kasumi
Survivor Escort:  Mordin
Biotic Specialist: Jack
2nd Fire Team Leader: Garrus
Reaper Takedown Squad:  Thane and Grunt

... yes

[wright1978]

Leader of Fire Team: Miranda
Tech Specialist: Legion
Survivor Escort: Mordin
Biotic Specialist: Samara
2nd Fire Team Leader: Garrus
Reaper Takedown Squad: Miranda and Kasumi

[didymos1120]

S.A.K wrote...

If you leave Miranda and Garrus to hold the line while you fight the human reaper, no one will die(if they are loyal ofc).

That depends on how many other people you leave with them.  And Miranda's only middling as a defender.  The best are Garrus, Grunt, and Zaeed.  Loyal, they each have a score of 4. Non-loyal, they're each worth 3.

Send Mordin escort the crew because he got the highest chance to die.

There's no chance involved in any of the SM deaths.  None.  It's completely deterministic.  If your Hold The Line score is too low, Mordin dies first.  If he's loyal but someone else isn't, then they die first. Almost every single death is based on two things:

a. a condition that must be met (pick the right person, have the right upgrade, etc.)
b. a priority list that says who dies first if you don't meet the condition.

The exceptions are the final boss and crew escort, where survival is determined entirely by loyalty, and the vents and 2nd fireteam, where it's always the vent runner and leader who bite it.

Modifié par didymos1120, 18 décembre 2011 - 07:21 .

[Bleachrude]

 The funniest thing I discovered about the suicide mission is Miranda when you pick a choice to lead the other team.

Pick Garrus you get  "well, ok....at least he knows what he is doing".
Pick Samara you get  "great choice...she is who I'd pick"

ARGH!!! goddam you Miranda..can you never fail at failing?

[Selene Moonsong]

Fire Team (Both times): Garrus
Tech: Tali
Escourt: Jacob
Biotic: Samara
Reaper Team: Grunt and Mordin (Shep was a Biotic)

[raziel1980]

for me it's usually
Tech expert: Kasumi
1st fire squad: Miri
team to go with me : Grunt n Legion
Lead team back: Mordin
2nd fire squad: jacob or Garrus
Biotic Bubble - Samara
team with me: Jack n Thane
Final Team/ Human Reaper take-down: Miranda n Garrus or Thane

side note: I let Tali and Zaeed fight the big eye looking machine with me that gets into the hull deck of the Normandy before we reach the base...

[Fiery Phoenix]

I don't remember exactly but my first playthrough was something like this:

Fire Team (both): Miranda
Tech: Tali
Escort: Thane
Biotic: Samara
Reaper: I *think* it was Miranda and Tali

And everyone got out alive.

In any case, I have since changed it to more preferable choices.

[didymos1120]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I was really surprised that last time when I played it I took Jack and Jacob to the Reapernator and neither of them had any lines regarding what TIM said/blowing up the base.

Um, no, they both do.  And they will play. If they didn't say anything, then it was either a glitch, or you didn't pick the right dialogue option. For "keep the base" squaddies, you must pick the "This place is an abomination." option. For "destroy the base" ones,  you have to pick "You think it can help?" one.  Jack and Jacob are both in the latter category, and Jacob takes priority over Jack.  The exception is Miranda: she's at the top of the "keep it" list, but she actually agrees with Shep that it's not a good idea.

Modifié par didymos1120, 18 décembre 2011 - 08:22 .

[TMA LIVE]

didymos1120 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I was really surprised that last time when I played it I took Jack and Jacob to the Reapernator and neither of them had any lines regarding what TIM said/blowing up the base.

Um, no, they both do.  And they will play. If they didn't say anything, then it was either a glitch, or you didn't pick the right dialogue option. For "keep the base" squaddies, you must pick the "This place is an abomination." option. For "destroy the base" ones,  you have to pick "You think it can help?" one.  Jack and Jacob are both in the latter category, and Jacob takes priority over Jack.  The exception is Miranda: she's at the top of the "keep it" list, but she actually agrees with Shep that it's not a good idea.

Hey Did, is there a video on what the Squdmates say about the base during the mission? I tried to find one, but all I can find are the ones after keeping/destorying the base.