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[Cuddlezarro]

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great
- Sacred Band of thebes

added an entire regiment onto your list because im bored

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:15 .

[Kawamura]

ReconTeam wrote...

Kawamura wrote...
Did making all of the non humans LI's willing to engage in a romance with a human degrade the quality of character development? If so, how? If not, why not?

No thanks to Captain Kirk syndrome. Although Tali's obession with Shepard even when he shows her no interest is rather creepy from what you learn in LotSB.

I'm sorry, I didn't understand the answer. I thought it would have at least given a "yes" or a "no" first. 

[GodWood]

I'm of the same opinion as Slim but far too lazy to wade through the ridiculous accusations of homophobia to address it in any real detail.

[slimgrin]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great
- Sacred Band of thebes

added an entire regiment onto your list because im bored

Don't really care who was historically gay.

(although Da Vinci was quite the draftsman)

Modifié par slimgrin, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:20 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Cthulhu42 wrote...
I'm confused...

I forgot the comma, that makes all of the difference.

[MACharlie1]

slimgrin wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great
- Sacred Band of thebes

added an entire regiment onto your list because im bored

Don't really care who was historically gay.

Then it's a good thing you didn't ask to list three. 

[Ryzaki]

For the record http://en.wikipedia....bisexual_people

Really it takes five minutes of googling. Oh my god.

And there's a lot more than 3 there.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:20 .

[Kawamura]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Kawamura wrote...
Did making all of the non humans LI's willing to engage in a romance with a human degrade the quality of character development? If so, how? If not, why not?

No thanks to Captain Kirk syndrome. Although Tali's obession with Shepard even when he shows her no interest is rather creepy from what you learn in LotSB.

I'm sorry, I didn't understand the answer. I thought it would have at least given a "yes" or a "no" first. 

I'm confused...

Yes, but they didn't respond with a yes or no. They said "no thanks to" which is a phrase.

[Kaiser Shepard]

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

Ryzaki wrote...

Seldomly?

Yeah, I suppose that must surprise you, someone who's on the wrong side of the fence most of the time.

[MACharlie1]

Ryzaki wrote...

For the record http://en.wikipedia....bisexual_people

Really it takes five minutes of googling. Oh my god.

Thankfully, I knew those three off the top of my head then.

Though that may just be to spending a month in Florench. My God...the homoeroticism in that city.  

[PinkDiamondstl]

MACharlie1 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

Wow, and nobody complains when FemShep is confirmed to be into women. This thread doesn't help the stereotype that gamers are a bunch of whiny man-children.

Shepard can be into dudes. It's in the game. It's not forced upon you and it's not going away. Deal with it.

It feels forced. Why make Shepard bi now? The saver of the earth ,the hero a butt hunter.

A. Shep's not necessarily Bi.

B. No one's Shep is forced to be anything.

C. Your last bit...whatever. There are heroes that were gay. I'd suggest you get used to that fact. It's not like gay Shep is gonna burst out the game, hold you down and rape you.

Name three...

Fictional or non-fictional? 

Non-fictional.

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

How is Leonardo a hero?

[MACharlie1]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

[Kawamura]

ReconTeam wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...
I'm confused...

I forgot the comma, that makes all of the difference.

Oh. Okay. 

Why does that not count? After all, each of these aliens is a xenophile for Shep. In what ways is the quality of their character development not negatively affected? 

[Kaiser Shepard]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

Silly you, Ezio obviously was the hero of that game.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:23 .

[Ryzaki]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

Ryzaki wrote...

Seldomly?

Yeah, I suppose that must surprise you, someone who's on the wrong side of the fence most of the time.

Might want to look at my edit if you're gonna preach about someone being "wrong" bud. 

[MACharlie1]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

Silly you, Ezio obviously was the hero of that game.

Holy ****. You are dumb. Please read some history for Godsakes. I know you were taught that Leonardo painted the Mona Lisa and was this amazing painter yadda yadda ya but the man was more of an inventor and thinker then a painter. 

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...
Why?

Just curious if you live in a conservative part of the world.

[FoxHound109]

ReconTeam wrote...
It's odd that you accuse Kaiser of pretending to be "mature" when outside of spamming images (your stock isn't even good trolling 101 material), you pretend to have such great arguments and answers to support this S/S nonsense that you refuse to lower yourself to posting them. That right there says everything one needs to know about the quality (or lack thereof) of your arguments. Would it be more comparing people to transportaion and water fountains?

1.) The first part of that statement is irrelevant. Accusing Kaiser of pretending to be mature has no relation to your later comments about my own ability to debate or my arguments. You're trying to connect two points that have nothing to do with one another. If you were suggesting that posting images is immature, then I am sorry to inform that whatever you may assume about my own level of maturity doesn't weaken my argument of his own lack of maturity.

2.) You are assuming that simply because I refuse to engage you in a pointless debate, it automatically means I must have no debating points worth speaking about. The reality is much simpler: you have shown time and again that to you it's less about openly debating points in a civilized manner and more about simply being "right" at all costs. Destroying your arguments is not difficult, what is difficult is making you see reason. Whether your arguments become destroyed or leave unscathed makes no difference to your ability to accept differing information and form a better set of debate points by understanding the flaws in your arguments (so far as you have shown). 

Anyway, I'm not falling into this trap. You create circles with your arguments and your only weapon is to try and trap your opponent within them, creating a "NO U" debacle that makes you think that your impenetrable wall of stubborness proves your victory. Be assured that regardless of what you reply to this, I will not engange in another reply to you. Unless it's to post ponies. I have plenty of those.

Modifié par FoxHound109, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:29 .

[shepskisaac]

ReconTeam wrote...

Yet Bioware is supposed to be making a game for more people than just yourself.

Whoa princess, you FINALLY get it. ReconTeam isn't the only person playing this game. Took you long enough.

ReconTeam wrote...

The ugliness and morality factors aren't flaws because we are talking about dynamics that would need a lot of programming and investment to implement.

Looks, yes. Morality? What a bull****. There's no easier thing to do than set conditionals in LIs dialogues that would check some good/evil things player did which are already being flagged & tracked and reffered to in multiple other points in the game anyway. 

ReconTeam wrote...

Like it or not, making them all bisexual simply to please the whims of some fanboys/girls is degrading the quality of that character development.

Making them not care about morality degrades them much more considering it's the morality that's hugely important and relevant to the theme and story of Mass Effect. I don't see you whining about that. Until you do, start making threads about it (don't forget about how degrading it is that every female squadmates except for Kasumi has to be into ManShep), then you're just transparent hypocrite.

ReconTeam wrote...

As I said, the only reason you think said characters should sleep with Shepard regardless of gender is because of your personal interest in the matter.

The only reason you're blatantly ignoring all already existing unrealistic romance availability factors (some of which MUCH more important than sexual orientation) is because you desperately don't want 'teh gay' on existing characters. And everybody can see it.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:28 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

Silly you, Ezio obviously was the hero of that game.

Holy ****. You are dumb. Please read some history for Godsakes. I know you were taught that Leonardo painted the Mona Lisa and was this amazing painter yadda yadda ya but the man was more of an inventor and thinker then a painter.

And this is why I usually refrain from making jokes on here, as most of you are unable to recognise even the most obvious ones.

[PinkDiamondstl]

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...
Why?

Just curious if you live in a conservative part of the world.

Oh if that's the case. It's none of you're bees-wax.

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...
Why?

Just curious if you live in a conservative part of the world.

Oh if that's the case. It's none of you're bees-wax.

So then it's a yes?

[MACharlie1]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

Silly you, Ezio obviously was the hero of that game.

Holy ****. You are dumb. Please read some history for Godsakes. I know you were taught that Leonardo painted the Mona Lisa and was this amazing painter yadda yadda ya but the man was more of an inventor and thinker then a painter.

And this is why I usually refrain from making jokes on here, as most of you are unable to recognise even the most obvious ones.

If that was a joke and not a serious insuation that I get my information from fictional video games then I sincerely apologize, sir.