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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

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Why?


Just curious if you live in a conservative part of the world.

Oh if that's the case. It's none of you're bees-wax.:ph34r:


So then it's a yes?

Would it make any difference?

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

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- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

Silly you, Ezio obviously was the hero of that game.

Holy ****. You are dumb. Please read some history for Godsakes. I know you were taught that Leonardo painted the Mona Lisa and was this amazing painter yadda yadda ya but the man was more of an inventor and thinker then a painter.

And this is why I usually refrain from making jokes on here, as most of you are unable to recognise even the most obvious ones.

Oh for gods sake develop a sense of humor people/:wizard:

Modifié par PinkDiamondstl, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:30 .


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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...
Why?


Just curious if you live in a conservative part of the world.

Oh if that's the case. It's none of you're bees-wax.:ph34r:


So then it's a yes?

St Louis MO. Smart ass......

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Anyways OP I care because I want more options for romance. I'm greedy like that.

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

he didn't invent the first helicopter, the first one was the chinese bamboo dragonfly made in 400 BCE which is what the first working helicopters were based off of, but anyways da Vinci did make a lot of cool inventions

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thatguy212 wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great

The first two aren't heroes, and there's no direct evidence of Alexander being a ****** as well.

You're going to have to define hero then. Since the guy who invented the first helicopter ranks pretty highly in the hero books if I do say so myself. 

he didn't invent the first helicopter, the first one was the chinese bamboo dragonfly made in 400 BCE which is what the first working helicopters were based off of, but anyways da Vinci did make a lot of cool inventions

Point well made, good sir. B)

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Ryzaki wrote...

Anyways OP I care because I want more options for romance. I'm greedy like that.


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1.) The first part of that statement is irrelevant. Accusing Kaiser of pretending to be mature has no relation to your later comments about my own ability to debate or my arguments. You're trying to connect two points that have nothing to do with one another. If you were suggesting that posting images is immature, then I am sorry to inform that whatever you may assume about my own level of maturity doesn't weaken my argument of his own lack of maturity.

2.) You are assuming that simply because I refuse to engage you in a pointless debate, it automatically means I must have no debating points worth speaking about. The reality is much simpler: you have shown time and again that to you it's less about openly debating points in a civilized manner and more about simply being "right" at all costs. Destroying your arguments is not difficult, what is difficult is making you see reason. Whether your arguments become destroyed or leave unscathed makes no difference to your ability to accept differing information and form a better set of debate points by understanding the flaws in your arguments (so far as you have shown). 

Anyway, I'm not falling into this trap. You create circles with your arguments and your only weapon is to try and trap your opponent within them, creating a "NO U" debacle that makes you think that your impenetrable wall of stubborness proves your victory. Be assured that regardless of what you reply to this, I will not engange in another reply to you. Unless it's to post ponies. I have plenty of those.


What, no picture this time? I am dissapoint.

1. Oddly enough it does relate when you have no maturity yourself to speak of. How can you possibly judge how mature he is? You constantly back off your trolling just long enough to attempt a display of intellectual superiority. When that fails you go back to trying to be cute and clever, yet fail at that to. Anyone with two brain cells to spare can see through your act.

2. Another fine example of your little charade. "I simply refuse to argue with you people because your arguments suck and mine are better. You won't listen when I yell that I'm right and you're wrong so I'm going to leave."

So since BS claims about my arguments doesn't cut it, you're going to go back to posting pony pictures? Shouldn't you go back to 4Chan or something?

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What, no picture this time? I am dissapoint.

No need to be disappointed; I'll happily fill your need for pony pics.

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On the note of AC. Am I the only one who restarted the game because I missed the hug interrupt with Leonardo? I never felt that bad in a game before. D:

I felt like I kicked a puppy in the face. :crying:

DAMN YOU UBISOFT!

Seriously though. Around and round we go on this carousel of "Oh noes!"

...I suck at poetry.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 décembre 2011 - 06:46 .


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Cuddlezarro wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...
- Leonardo da Vinci
- Michelangelo
- Alexander the Great
- Sacred Band of thebes

added an entire regiment onto your list because im bored

How about one more..

Mark Bingham
http://www.unitedher...rk-Bingham.html

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Would it make any difference?


It would make more sense.

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ReconTeam wrote...

*Snip*


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How are the sex scenes gonna look?

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Whoa princess, you FINALLY get it. ReconTeam isn't the only person playing this game. Took you long enough.


Princess? Calm down there son, don't let your fantasies get dragged into this. I know how badly you want me, but it isn't going to happen. The truth is that you and the S/S brigade are far more interested in your own obession here than any factors relating to character development, quality of story, realism, etc.

Morality? What a bull****. There's no easier thing to do than set conditionals in LIs dialogues that would check some good/evil things player did which are already being flagged & tracked and reffered to in multiple other points in the game anyway. 


Which involves a lot of dialogue as explanation, decisions as to what said characters think on any number of issues and how strongly they hold these opinions, changes for Shepard to argue the point of view, etc. Nothing's as simple as it seems. Plus, do you really think Bioware wants to open up a can of worms with stuff like "Why won't Tali sleep with me if I killed the Rachni queen?"

Making them not care about morality degrades them much more considering it's the morality that's hugely important and relevant to the theme and story of Mass Effect. I don't see you whining about that. Until you do, start making threads about it (don't forget about how degrading it is that every female squadmates except for Kasumi has to be into ManShep), then you're just transparent hypocrite.


Hypocrite? Get over yourself. It makes much more sense for a character to have a defined sexuality as opposed to saying "I'm not interested in you because you saved the Collector base." Once more, the lack of Shepard's paragon/renegade choices effecting the romances doesn't justify making everybody bisexual. How you could come to a different conclusion is pure insanity.

The only reason you're blatantly ignoring all already existing unrealistic romance availability factors (some of which MUCH more important than sexual orientation) is because you desperately don't want 'teh gay' on existing characters. And everybody can see it.


You might want to try addressing what I just said before more before ****ing about homophobia "princess". Or did you already move to your typical last resort?

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PinkDiamondstl wrote...

How are the sex scenes gonna look?

If like ME1:

Like naked polygons rubbing each other with cleverly placed cameras and cut outs in a room that baths the polygons in dark shadows.

If ME2: kiss and fade out. 

Dude, if we don't see vaginal penetration, we aren't going to see anal penetration. Don't get your quads in a twist. 

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PinkDiamondstl wrote...

How are the sex scenes gonna look?


Same stuff we got in ME2. It's not like gay romances are gonna make that any worse/better.

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No need to be disappointed; I'll happily fill your need for pony pics.
*ponies*


Better than FoxHound's pictures and .gifs, that's all I ask.

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PinkDiamondstl wrote...
How are the sex scenes gonna look?


$5 says no chance of ME1 style scenes because the S/S groupies would whine about getting a more "tame" scene.

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How are the sex scenes gonna look?

Like this:

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@OP, This matters to me in a video game -- Writer/NPC Integrity. Which can be summarised thusly:

If a character is meant to be straight/gay/bi, then make them straight/gay/bi. If it's in character for them to be swung to a different orientation through RP reasons that make sense, then swing them. But don't make them straight/gay/bi to appease the wailing of your fans; do what's true for the NPCs.

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I despise the 'all LIs are bi' move primarily because, to me, it reeks of Bioware caving to fan demands. My secondary issue is that it effectively cuts a plethora of RP possibilities from future games for the sake of fans being able to have their one PC boink everyone in a single playthrough, which I think is a shame (not that you can boink everyone, but that there's a price for that and it's dialogue. Don't worry, I get that a lot of you don't care so long as you can have your sexytimes. You're entitled to that preference just as I am to mine).

Edit: grammar.

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ReconTeam wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...
How are the sex scenes gonna look?


$5 says no chance of ME1 style scenes because the S/S groupies would whine about getting a more "tame" scene.

:huh:

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

@OP, This matters to me in a video game -- Writer/NPC Integrity. Which can be summarised thusly:

If a character is meant to be straight/gay/bi, then make them straight/gay/bi. If it's in character for them to be swung to a different orientation through RP reasons that make sense, then swing them. But don't make them straight/gay/bi to appease the wailing of your fans; do what's true for the NPCs.

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I despise the 'all LIs are bi' move primarily because, to me, it reeks of Bioware caving to fan demands. My secondary issue is that it effectively cuts a plethora of RP possibilities from future games for the sake of fan's being able to have their one PC boink everyone in a single playthrough, which I think is a shame (not that you can boink everyone, but that there's a price for that and it's dialogue. Don't worry, I get that a lot of you don't care if you can have your sexytimes. You're entitled to that preference just as I am to mine).


I agree. But I advise you to take cover.

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ReconTeam wrote...
I know how badly you want me

:sick::sick::sick: I would rather eat broken glass

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Which involves a lot of dialogue as explanation, decisions as to what said characters think on any number of issues and how strongly they hold these opinions, changes for Shepard to argue the point of view, etc. Nothing's as simple as it seems.

It requires 1 scene and about 5 lines max in which the LI turns you down because "we're just too different/I don't want someone like you". Don't try to make it into a big issue, it's not. The game's tracking your choices all over the place, characters react to it so it is absolutely NON issue for an RPG developer, they've been doing stuff like that for over a decade now.

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Hypocrite? Get over yourself.

WHen you will finally start taking your own advices?

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It makes much more sense for a character to have a defined sexuality as opposed to saying "I'm not interested in you because you saved the Collector base."

In a story like Mass Effect? When sexual orientation has no relevance while morality is one of the main topics? And again you keep ignoring ManShep's harem of women and how it doesn't make sense they're all into him haha. Keep it going!

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You might want to try addressing what I just said before more before ****ing about homophobia "princess". Or did you already move to your typical last resort?

Actually, this is your last rest haha. You always do it "Ohhh so so so you're calling me a homophobe?!??!". I never do it, I laugh when people like you try to make me call you one. :lol:

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IsaacShep wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...
I know how badly you want me

:sick::sick::sick: I would rather eat broken glass

ReconTeam wrote...
Which involves a lot of dialogue as explanation, decisions as to what said characters think on any number of issues and how strongly they hold these opinions, changes for Shepard to argue the point of view, etc. Nothing's as simple as it seems.

It requires 1 scene and about 5 lines max in which the LI turns you down because "we're just too different/I don't want someone like you". Don't try to make it into a big issue, it's not. The game's tracking your choices all over the place, characters react to it so it is absolutely NON issue for an RPG developer, they've been doing stuff like that for over a decade now.

ReconTeam wrote...
Hypocrite? Get over yourself.

WHen you will finally start taking your own advices?

ReconTeam wrote...
It makes much more sense for a character to have a defined sexuality as opposed to saying "I'm not interested in you because you saved the Collector base."

In a story like Mass Effect? When sexual orientation has no relevance while morality is one of the main topics? And again you keep ignoring ManShep's harem of women and how it doesn't make sense they're all into him haha. Keep it going!

ReconTeam wrote...
You might want to try addressing what I just said before more before ****ing about homophobia "princess". Or did you already move to your typical last resort?

Actually, this is your last rest haha. You always do it "Ohhh so so so you're calling me a homophobe?!??!". I never do it, I laugh when people like you try to make me call you one. :lol:

Will you two just makeout and get it over with.:?