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But sexuality is not a defining character trait, is it? Characters evolve, and we find out new things about them.slimgrin wrote...
Of course not. We're talkng about a construct here, a story. And whether you like it or not, that means certain creative rules must be kept in mind for the construct to work.
Oh but we want our stories to be true to life, don't we?SAGEHONOR wrote...
Somebody you would actually know in real life is different from a video game story..
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AdmiralCheez wrote...
Oh but we want our stories to be true to life, don't we?SAGEHONOR wrote...
Somebody you would actually know in real life is different from a video game story..
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AdmiralCheez wrote...
But sexuality is not a defining character trait, is it?slimgrin wrote...
Of course not. We're talkng about a construct here, a story. And whether you like it or not, that means certain creative rules must be kept in mind for the construct to work.
AdmiralCheez wrote...
But sexuality is not a defining character trait, is it? Characters evolve, and we find out new things about them.slimgrin wrote...
Of course not. We're talking about a construct here, a story. And whether you like it or not, that means certain creative rules must be kept in mind for the construct to work.
You just ASSUME so-and-so is straight because so-and-so was only a straight option before. By that logic, Garrus and Tali must be asexual, and their romances are clearly a retcon.
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What DO you want, then? No bisexuals except for the asari?SAGEHONOR wrote...
Not all of us.
And most of the time, they don't.SAGEHONOR wrote...
Some people are influenced by their sexuality. There are people who act a certain way because of their sexuality. Someones sexual preference can have a huge impact on their overall personality.
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What DO you want, then? No bisexuals except for the asari?SAGEHONOR wrote...
Not all of us.
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And I'm sure that, in a future that is more accepting, with better technology that makes sex much safer and opens new possibilities when it comes to reproduction, the ratio OBVIOUSLY won't change at all.slimgrin wrote...
Who's to say the predominance of heterosexuality will be any different in Shepard's time than it is now? That's what propigates a species, afterall. Of course I'm going to presume that.
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And most of the time, they don't.SAGEHONOR wrote...
Some people are influenced by their sexuality. There are people who act a certain way because of their sexuality. Someones sexual preference can have a huge impact on their overall personality.
What you're doing is sterotyping.
Because I'm tired of EVERYTHING catering to the Straight White Loser Male. I play videogames, too.SAGEHONOR wrote...
I'm fine with whatever they put into the game. My whole purpose from the start was that i was wondering why people placce so much emphasis on them.Thats it.
Oh, so you ARE afraid of teh gays?In regards to people becoming S/S available in the last game of the trilogy..Yes I am against that.
YOU are what's wrong with society. What I bolded is why this bigoted crap persists.SAGEHONOR wrote...
I said SOME people are influenced. There are people who act this way.MOST of the time.
There is nothing wrong with stereotyping.They are true more than half the time. Just dont approach a situaton thinking of stereotypes as a 100%. kind of thing because they arent. I dont do that.
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Because I'm tired of EVERYTHING catering to the Straight White Loser Male. I play videogames, too.SAGEHONOR wrote...
I'm fine with whatever they put into the game. My whole purpose from the start was that i was wondering why people placce so much emphasis on them.Thats it.Oh, so you ARE afraid of teh gays?In regards to people becoming S/S available in the last game of the trilogy..Yes I am against that.
There is nothing wrong with wanting these options in games.
There is nothing wrong with not wanting these options in games.
just gonna post this again since slimgrin ignored itIsaacShep wrote...
Nobody's talking about having Ash go from straight to gay. You do know what bi means right? Plus, you can't point to any moment where she declares she's not interested in women or turns FemShep down. Conclusion: You don't know if she's straight or bi. But you sure really want her to be just straight.slimgrin wrote...
-People who believe sexuality is interwoven into one's character, and should be treated as lore, that is: Ashley doesn't go from straight to gay just so women get to have sex with her. There needs to be a substantial reason for it. This is where I'm coming from.
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YOU are what's wrong with society. What I bolded is why this bigoted crap persists.SAGEHONOR wrote...
I said SOME people are influenced. There are people who act this way.MOST of the time.
There is nothing wrong with stereotyping.They are true more than half the time. Just dont approach a situaton thinking of stereotypes as a 100%. kind of thing because they arent. I dont do that.
If you believe nothing is wrong with stereotypes, that they are true more than half the time, THEN YOU ARE A BIGOT.
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AdmiralCheez wrote...
And I'm sure that, in a future that is more accepting, with better technology that makes sex much safer and opens new possibilities when it comes to reproduction, the ratio OBVIOUSLY won't change at all.slimgrin wrote...
Who's to say the predominance of heterosexuality will be any different in Shepard's time than it is now? That's what propigates a species, afterall. Of course I'm going to presume that.
And I'm sure that, in a future that is more accepting,
Oh ho ho. MY logic is flawed? You, who say stereotypes are okay, who say they are true more than half the time?SAGEHONOR wrote...
Afraid? Now your logic is getting flawed. Im not for it. I dont mind if its in there but im against it if somebody wants to know.
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Oh ho ho. MY logic is flawed? You, who say stereotypes are okay, who say they are true more than half the time?SAGEHONOR wrote...
Afraid? Now your logic is getting flawed. Im not for it. I dont mind if its in there but im against it if somebody wants to know.
Should I get back in the kitchen for you, big boy? Would that make you feel better for me to conform to your twisted perception of reality?
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And what about you constantly ignoring arguments?slimgrin wrote...
But what about my other point, what about giving the writers an opportunity to send a message here?
Then they should send a non-hateful message. One that says, hey, guess what, I'm a person, too. I'm not some stupid stereotype, I'm a real goddamn person.slimgrin wrote...
But what about my other point, what about giving the writers an opportunity to send a message here?
BELIEVING STEREOTYPES ARE TRUE IN AND OF ITSELF IS A LOGICAL ERROR OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE.SAGEHONOR wrote...
Kitchen jokes are overused and stupid. Those jokes come from what most housewives did back in the 40's, 50's 60's etc They were in the kitchen alot..A steretype. Its no longer the norm in America though. . My perception of reality isnt twisted at all.
Again you're illogical
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