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Im sorry jreezy, but you only prove Quole`s point.

So you are Quole then. I thought you were DoNotIngest's 5th account at first.

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http://s7d5.scene7.c...02849&id=WYCrJ1

It's from Express. Very minimalist, I really like it.


So you don't freeze to death in Gran Pulse.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

http://s7d5.scene7.c...02849&id=WYCrJ1

It's from Express. Very minimalist, I really like it.


I want to buy David Sarif's suit or TIM's suit. Why can't I order those on the internet?

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jreezy wrote...

WHYBIOWARE wrote...

Im sorry jreezy, but you only prove Quole`s point.

So you are Quole then. I thought you were DoNotIngest's 5th account at first.

Actually I am WHYBIOWARE

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Now that it appears all the p*ssing back and forth has disapeared, this now interests me. Ryzaki, what things related to romances are not realistic, that people are not complaining about?

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WHYBIOWARE wrote...

Im sorry jreezy, but you only prove Quole`s point.

So you are Quole then. I thought you were DoNotIngest's 5th account at first.

You can't tell the difference between Quole and DNI? Shame on you.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

WHYBIOWARE wrote...

Im sorry jreezy, but you only prove Quole`s point.

So you are Quole then. I thought you were DoNotIngest's 5th account at first.

You can't tell the difference between Quole and DNI? Shame on you.


Indeed.

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True it is only a game. But why is the gayness  needed in our video games.<_<


"Our" video games? Whose? I don't think there's any exclusivity in the video games market when they are released to retailers. People from all walks of life play video games. This happens to include gay/bi people. The video games they play are as much theirs as they are straight people's. As for why it's needed? I could enumerate on all the positive causes for the inclusion of homosexual characters and other minorities in video games (such as the fact that video games as a medium provide great potential for players to enrich themselves through the exploration of perspectives that are alien to their own), but there is a rather simple answer for that. The Mass Effect series is one that is purportedly centered around choice: the player's freedom to have it and the consequences of it. The Mass Effect series also contains optional romantic sideplots that players may choose to partake of. Unless they want to choose a male love interest for their male Shepherd... Bit of a contradiction, that.

I am a proponent of same-sex relationships in ME3 and, like most others, I am not particularly concerned with continuity issues regarding them. I admit this shamelessly as a result of the grievous lack of representation for gay/lesbian people within video games and mainstream media in general. I have a soft spot for a side of lovey dovey romance to go along with all the action and adventure of a narrative, particularly when that romance aftually reflects my IRL interests. I will take it where I can get it. :P As for the people who argue against it, their viewpoint certainly isn't wrong merely because it differs from mine. I do think it's wrong however for one to say that they would be unsatisified unless they were catered to exclusively and the options of others were restricted. Especially when the majority of people posting here seem to care little for romances at all, same-sex or not. If it's not something you care to have in your game, simply do not engage in it.

Can we all be friends and agree to live and let male!Shepherd make out with Kaidan live now? <3

Modifié par OseH57, 19 décembre 2011 - 08:54 .


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So the Juhani Mod changes the quality of Kotor? How, please explain that to me.
Or even better, how does the fanmod change the quality of Vampire Masquerade?


I'm not familar with these mods. Wasn't Juhani an LI for FemRevan in default KOTOR?

As I said before, one or two characters in a remotely believable scenario is one thing. But all of the LIs is just stupid.


Not everyone will be bisexual in ME3, so what's the problem?

Okay, so modding Juhani is okay, because making an Lesbian character available for male romance is always okay? Then let's take a look at Vampire.

Vampire Masquerade, well the game in the original version was full of bugs and half of the NPCs were not available for both sexes, the patch fixed all the bugs and makes most of the NPC available for seduction for both sexes. The LI was always BI, but the game isn't that much about love then more about seduction.
So, in my opinion, the quality of the game was hugely improved by the patch.

So explain to me, how did this fanpatch, lower the quality of the game. Especially when you are playing a Toreador, in the original version you couldn't seduce male characters, with a Vampire Clan that's all about seduction.
It didn't make any sense.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

WHYBIOWARE wrote...

Im sorry jreezy, but you only prove Quole`s point.

So you are Quole then. I thought you were DoNotIngest's 5th account at first.

You can't tell the difference between Quole and DNI? Shame on you.

There is a difference?

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Now that it appears all the p*ssing back and forth has disapeared, this now interests me. Ryzaki, what things related to romances are not realistic, that people are not complaining about?


Shh. Don't talk. You'll ruin the moment.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

WHYBIOWARE wrote...

Im sorry jreezy, but you only prove Quole`s point.

So you are Quole then. I thought you were DoNotIngest's 5th account at first.

You can't tell the difference between Quole and DNI? Shame on you.

There is a difference?

Shame on you too then, I suppose.

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So you don't freeze to death in Gran Pulse.


Gran Pulse, ha ha so clever!

(I guess we have different styles of humor)

ReconTeam wrote...

I want to buy David Sarif's suit or TIM's suit. Why can't I order those on the internet?


What, Sarif's vest with the triangles? Those people, whoever created DE:HR, have a hard-on for whatever you call those things. The 3D triangular look.

And I do like TIM's outfit, I would like that.

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Let's talk about clothes.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Now that it appears all the p*ssing back and forth has disapeared, this now interests me. Ryzaki, what things related to romances are not realistic, that people are not complaining about?


I edited in a few points if you'd like to see but for quickness factor.

Zevran has no problems romancing a racist human (as long as said human isn't totally racist to him [and even then my PC managed to get a few racists cracks in at his expense and still get the earring].)

Leliana and Alistair have no problems romancing someone who routinely kills innocent people for their own amusement/out of wanton cruelty. (Picking certain options when killing the mages and killing the elves).

Leliana goes "I'll never forgive you for this!" after my PC poisoned the ashes (she was hardened) yet five minutes later after a gift my PC is happily sleeping in her tent.

Meh I say.

It's just...meh.

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OseH57 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

True it is only a game. But why is the gayness  needed in our video games.<_<


"Our" video games? Whose? I don't think there's any exclusivity in the video games market when they are released to retailers. People from all walks of life play video games. This happens to include gay/bi people. The video games they play are as much theirs as they are straight people's. As for why it's needed? I could enumerate on all the positive causes for the inclusion of homosexual characters and other minorities in video games (such as the fact that video games as a medium provide great potential for players to enrich themselves through the exploration of perspectives that are alien to their own), but there is a rather simple answer for that. The Mass Effect series is one that is purportedly centered around choice: the player's freedom to have it and the consequences of it. The Mass Effect series also contains optional romantic sideplots that players may choose to partake of. Unless they want to choose a male love interest for the male Shepherd... Bit of a contradiction, that.

I am a proponent of same-sex relationships in ME3 and, like most others, I am not particularly concerned with continuity issues regarding them. I admit this shamelessly as a result of the grievous lack of representation for gay/lesbian people within video games and mainstream media in general. I have a soft spot for a side of lovey dovey romance to go along with all the action and adventure of a narrative, particularly when that romance aftually reflects my IRL interests. I will take it where I can get it. :P As for the people who argue against it, their viewpoint certainly isn't wrong merely because it differs from mine. I do think it's wrong however for one to say that they would be unsatisified unless they were catered to exclusively and the options of others were restricted. Especially when the majority of people posting here seem to care little for romances at all, same-sex or not. If it's not something you care to have in your game, simply do not engage in it.

Can we all be firends and agree to live and let male!Shepherd make out with Kaidan now? <3

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Shh. Don't talk. You'll ruin the moment.


That sounds quite sexual.


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There is a difference?


Oh but Kaiser, of course there is. Quole insults everyone constantly and calls them idiots (except when he gets hit on the head and starts calling them stupid--stupid=/=idiot) while DNI does the GMagnum talk.

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Quole calls people stupid when he feels it is more appropriate, I guess.
Quole also supports dem Desire Demons. I cant say I blame him.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Shh. Don't talk. You'll ruin the moment.


That sounds quite sexual.


Does it?

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Ravensword wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Shh. Don't talk. You'll ruin the moment.


That sounds quite sexual.


Does it?

It does to me. Is there something sexual going on in this thread? If so, how can I get it on it?

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Ryzaki wrote...

I edited in a few points if you'd like to see but for quickness factor.

Zevran has no problems romancing a racist human (as long as said human isn't totally racist to him [and even then my PC managed to get a few racists cracks in at his expense and still get the earring].)

Leliana and Alistair have no problems romancing someone who routinely kills innocent people for their own amusement/out of wanton cruelty. (Picking certain options when killing the mages and killing the elves).

Leliana goes "I'll never forgive you for this!" after my PC poisoned the ashes (she was hardened) yet five minutes later after a gift my PC is happily sleeping in her tent.

Meh I say.

It's just...meh.


I can understand that, but I think some of that comes down to limitations of the game system: The game doesn't tag certain people as "innocent," for example, and when you kill them change the dialog for Leliana and Alistair; that would probably require an inordinate amount of work. Gameplay mechanic at work. Though you DO have a point.

And because I'm a grammar SS Agent, I fel compelled to tell you that when using brackets or curly braces, you go it DEscending order, not AScending order. Example: {[()]}

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Shh. Don't talk. You'll ruin the moment.


That sounds quite sexual.


Does it?

It does to me. Is there something sexual going on in this thread? If so, how can I get it on it?


We're gonna need some red Kool-Aid mixed w/ some Talisweat.

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Don't they already have a tread for this sort of talk?

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Not everyone will be bisexual in ME3, so what's the problem?


It comes with being horribly cynical and jaded. Who is to say they won't make the same mistakes of DA2 in ME3? I think there is too much of a chance that they'll cave and make Ashley, Garrus and whoever else not planned, bi as well.

Okay, so modding Juhani is okay, because making an Lesbian character available for male romance is always okay? Then let's take a look at Vampire.


So the mod made Juhani avalible to MaleRevan? I never saw much of an attraction between Revan and Juhani in KOTOR, but it is a mod so I don't mind.

Vampire Masquerade, well the game in the original version was full of bugs and half of the NPCs were not available for both sexes, the patch fixed all the bugs and makes most of the NPC available for seduction for both sexes. The LI was always BI, but the game isn't that much about love then more about seduction.
So, in my opinion, the quality of the game was hugely improved by the patch.


Honestly, not having played the game I won't make any judgements. What was originally intended by the developers?

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Ravensword wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Shh. Don't talk. You'll ruin the moment.


That sounds quite sexual.


Does it?

It does to me. Is there something sexual going on in this thread? If so, how can I get it on it?


We're gonna need some red Kool-Aid mixed w/ some Talisweat.

Sounds good. You fetch the sweat; I'll get us some blunts. We'll need some of them too.