Modifié par strive, 21 décembre 2011 - 10:22 .
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Agreed. I think the Cipher's importance has been underplayed. Hopefully it's role in regards to Shepard and the Protheans will be explored more in ME3.Someone With Mass wrote...
TMA LIVE wrote...
I'm kind of surprised Shepard isn't already under Reaper control at this point. How many times is he put into places where people are being indoctrinated. Then have him in a indoctrination signal area for 2 days, asleep.
If something ain't stopping him from being controlled at this point, that's a hole in the story.
I think he's simply more resistant to indoctrination than most people, thanks to the Cipher and whatnot.
Luc0s wrote...
Unschuld wrote...
Equal consequences? What are those? No matter what happens in the end, some people will be upset and feel like they've been "shafted" if their desired consequences for their actions don't line up *exactly* where they think they should.
There should be a suitable victory/defeat for both sides. If any pure renegade expects a wonderful happy ending with rainbows and butterflies after callously slaughtering innocents, using other races as meatshields, and being an ass in general at every opportunity... well... please give a good reason why you'd expect that. The ending where Volus are dancing around a reaper corpse like Ewoks is something only paragons should get.
I disagree. I think both Paragon and Renegade should get a "medium ending". To get the "best ending", you'd have to mix up Paragon and Renegade. That would be awesome (mainly because I play that way).
I'd say keeping around resources while eleminating threats should lead to a good ending, while throwing away resources and letting potential threats go free should lead to a worse ending.
TMA LIVE wrote...
Someone With Mass wrote...
If Shepard was implanted with Reaper tech, then I think Harbinger would have figured out a way to control him.
I'm kind of surprised Shepard isn't already under Reaper control at this point. How many times is he put into places where people are being indoctrinated. Then have him in a indoctrination signal area for 2 days, asleep.
If something ain't stopping him from being controlled at this point, that's a hole in the story.
Luc0s wrote...
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
jreezy wrote...
Luc0s wrote...
Studying reaper tech by TIM -> created tech that allowed to ressurect people -> start of Project Lazarus, which revived Shepard.
Is there proof that this was a result of Reaper technology?
I've asked the same thing several times now, no response.
It seems to be an assumption on the part of the Cerberus fans.
Nice straw-man there, as usual. Seems to be a regular thing with you.
I'm not a Cerberus fan, far from it. I but I'm not affraid of Cerberus either, unlike those idealistic pure-Paragon players who let fear compromise who they are, even though they say they don't.
Paragade FTW tbh.
As for Shepard having reaper tech in his body: It's not literally said in the books or games, but the books do have lots of major hints towards that. Especially the last book about Paul Grayson. Paul Grayson was one of TIM's test subject for reaper implants. He implanted Paul with lots of reaper cybernetics and watched how Grayson reacted to indoctrination. It's hinted in the same book that the same kind of reaper implants are used to ressurect Shepard in the Lazerus Project. This is not officially confirmed, but really, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is indeed the case.
Someone With Mass wrote...
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
I'd also ask everyone to compare the help everyone other organization/government/group in the galaxy provided by comparison... practically nothing? Yeah.
Besides the intel that delayed the Reaper invasion? Not much.
Not that anyone gives a sh*t about the Terminus systems, anyway. I don't give a damn about the Terminus systems either.
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Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
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All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Modifié par Seboist, 22 décembre 2011 - 12:21 .
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How does "Go there and recruit this dude/tte because s/he's pretty dangerous and doesn't afraid of anything, oh and there's these important places that are traps but I'm sending you there anyway because I don't have a problem risking a 124 billion investment on a hunch or just to seem like a douche who keeps his subordinates in the dark regarding information that could really help them not dying horribly to an ambush" count as tactical or strategic knowledge to you? I assume what you meant was that TIM gave Shepard said tactical and strategical knowledge to Shepard, which, as should be evident to anyone with half a brain, is a fat lie..Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Shepard has as much tactical or strategic knowledge as any given Call of Duty protaganist, which is to say none at all.
You're underselling the CoD cast(s).Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Shepard has as much tactical or strategic knowledge as any given Call of Duty protaganist, which is to say none at all. TIM's planning made it all possible.
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Modifié par laecraft, 22 décembre 2011 - 12:48 .
laecraft wrote...
Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
He is. TIM is the champion of humanity. <3
Arcian wrote...
How does "Go there and recruit this dude/tte because s/he's pretty dangerous and doesn't afraid of anything, oh and there's these important places that are traps but I'm sending you there anyway because I don't have a problem risking a 124 billion investment on a hunch or just to seem like a douche who keeps his subordinates in the dark regarding information that could really help them not dying horribly to an ambush" count as tactical or strategic knowledge to you? I assume what you meant was that TIM gave Shepard said tactical and strategical knowledge to Shepard, which, as should be evident to anyone with half a brain, is a fat lie..Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Shepard has as much tactical or strategic knowledge as any given Call of Duty protaganist, which is to say none at all.
laecraft wrote...
TIM enables Shepard to fight in ME2. He's the main questgiver. He gives Shepard all the intel and all the directions, provides Shepard with everything he needs for the fight, and covers for him in the Terminus Systems, where Shepard's Spectre status doesn't mean a thing. Shepard's just a soldier - nothing more than a weapon in TIM's hand. Without TIM, he wouldn't even get into the space, in fact he'd still be dead.
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Shepard has as much tactical or strategic knowledge as any given Call of Duty protaganist, which is to say none at all.
How does "Go there and recruit this dude/tte because s/he's pretty dangerous and doesn't afraid of anything, oh and there's these important places that are traps but I'm sending you there anyway because I don't have a problem risking a 124 billion investment on a hunch or just to seem like a douche who keeps his subordinates in the dark regarding information that could really help them not dying horribly to an ambush" count as tactical or strategic knowledge to you? I assume what you meant was that TIM gave Shepard said tactical and strategical knowledge to Shepard, which, as should be evident to anyone with half a brain, is a fat lie..
Shepard's the same idiot who compared the FCW to the genophage. TIM has to make things simple enough for Shep to comprehend ya know?
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Shepard has as much tactical or strategic knowledge as any given Call of Duty protaganist, which is to say none at all.
How does "Go there and recruit this dude/tte because s/he's pretty dangerous and doesn't afraid of anything, oh and there's these important places that are traps but I'm sending you there anyway because I don't have a problem risking a 124 billion investment on a hunch or just to seem like a douche who keeps his subordinates in the dark regarding information that could really help them not dying horribly to an ambush" count as tactical or strategic knowledge to you? I assume what you meant was that TIM gave Shepard said tactical and strategical knowledge to Shepard, which, as should be evident to anyone with half a brain, is a fat lie..
Shepard's the same idiot who compared the FCW to the genophage. TIM has to make things simple enough for Shep to comprehend ya know?
Maybe your Sheps are that sort of pathetic meatheads... the only reason I've seen that line is because of YouTube.
Seboist wrote...
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Shepard has as much tactical or strategic knowledge as any given Call of Duty protaganist, which is to say none at all.
How does "Go there and recruit this dude/tte because s/he's pretty dangerous and doesn't afraid of anything, oh and there's these important places that are traps but I'm sending you there anyway because I don't have a problem risking a 124 billion investment on a hunch or just to seem like a douche who keeps his subordinates in the dark regarding information that could really help them not dying horribly to an ambush" count as tactical or strategic knowledge to you? I assume what you meant was that TIM gave Shepard said tactical and strategical knowledge to Shepard, which, as should be evident to anyone with half a brain, is a fat lie..
Shepard's the same idiot who compared the FCW to the genophage. TIM has to make things simple enough for Shep to comprehend ya know?
Maybe your Sheps are that sort of pathetic meatheads... the only reason I've seen that line is because of YouTube.
Then you've never talked to Wrex.
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Killjoy Cutter wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Arcian wrote...
All TIM did was to point Shepard in the right direction. As to why he would deserve some credit for the Collectors downfall (aside from the obvious "hurr durr he built Normandy/EDI", which, I might add, Shepard had to upgrade all by himself in order to make ready for the Omega 4 Relay. QED, TIM is a stingy bastard who can't even properly outfit his "gifts" to serve their intended tasks, which perhaps explains his ratio of successes vs failures in the project department), well, that's a leap of logic only your splintered mind can make.Seboist wrote...
TIM's an unsung hero that saved humanity from the Collectors.
Shepard has as much tactical or strategic knowledge as any given Call of Duty protaganist, which is to say none at all.
How does "Go there and recruit this dude/tte because s/he's pretty dangerous and doesn't afraid of anything, oh and there's these important places that are traps but I'm sending you there anyway because I don't have a problem risking a 124 billion investment on a hunch or just to seem like a douche who keeps his subordinates in the dark regarding information that could really help them not dying horribly to an ambush" count as tactical or strategic knowledge to you? I assume what you meant was that TIM gave Shepard said tactical and strategical knowledge to Shepard, which, as should be evident to anyone with half a brain, is a fat lie..
Shepard's the same idiot who compared the FCW to the genophage. TIM has to make things simple enough for Shep to comprehend ya know?
Maybe your Sheps are that sort of pathetic meatheads... the only reason I've seen that line is because of YouTube.
Then you've never talked to Wrex.
If you say so, chuckles.
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