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Fast Jimmy

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Hey guys,

Didn't want to scour the internet looking for this, but does anyone know if there is any reference at all to Wynne in DA2? I know she does not make the cameo list, but do we get any news about her at all?

If not, I'd likely assume she is dead, given that she was living on borrowed time in DAO. 

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dgcatanisiri

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Wynne isn't mentioned in DA2 AFAIR, but she is one of the main characters of the upcoming book 'Asunder,' which I believe is set in Orlais around the conclusion of the game.

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Aside from "The Blight was stopped with the aid of two mages, one of them an apostate!", no there isn't.

However, as was said above she plays an important role in Asunder, which takes place 1 year after Act 3.

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Indeed.

And, FWIW, she's a total boss in it.

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alex90c

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So she's not constantly nagging?

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I imagine if she was, Shale would've squished her by now.

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Wynne will never die. She will haunt us in our dreams forever, with her nagging and lecturing. If you try to strike her down, she will get back up and give you a good finger-wagging.

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Wynne is not mentioned in da2 because she is in Tevinter with Shale.. Next game will probably have her i think is good, hopefully we could rival her this time around, sadly she won't have anything to say about Hawke been Cousin to my warden mage.. Q.Q

Shale as a dwarf .. I hope she doesn't change  ..much. lol

Modifié par Huntress, 21 décembre 2011 - 02:55 .


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Finnian Valko

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Like everyone else said, no she's not unfortunately. The last time you can see her in a game was in DA: Awakening. You can talk to her in Amaranthine.

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If you want to know what Wynne and Shale did after the Blight and see what Wynne is really capable of, then do read the book Asunder. It is quite an eye opener

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Knight of Dane

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I just wanted to repeat what everyone else was repeating, that she's not in the game.

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dgcatanisiri wrote...

Wynne isn't mentioned in DA2 AFAIR, but she is one of the main characters of the upcoming book 'Asunder,' which I believe is set in Orlais around the conclusion of the game.


She dies, apparently.

Modifié par Slidell505, 22 décembre 2011 - 03:07 .


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Zanallen

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You downloaded a mod to do Wynne?

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alex90c wrote...

So she's not constantly nagging?


No.

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Fast Jimmy

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The Ethereal Writer Redux says...

Aside from "The Blight was stopped with the aid of two mages, one of them an apostate!", no there isn't.

However, as was said above she plays an important role in Asunder, which takes place 1 year after Act 3.


Ulicus says...
Indeed.

And, FWIW, she's a total boss in it.


Sorry I didn't have a chance to check on this thread until just now.

So she's still alive a year after Act 3? That's about ten years after Awakenings.

Do they give a reason about how she thought she was dying in DAO with Faith's power fading, but somehow she is alive many, MANY years later? I feel like I'm missing some lore here.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux says...

Aside from "The Blight was stopped with the aid of two mages, one of them an apostate!", no there isn't.

However, as was said above she plays an important role in Asunder, which takes place 1 year after Act 3.


Ulicus says...
Indeed.

And, FWIW, she's a total boss in it.


Sorry I didn't have a chance to check on this thread until just now.

So she's still alive a year after Act 3? That's about ten years after Awakenings.

Do they give a reason about how she thought she was dying in DAO with Faith's power fading, but somehow she is alive many, MANY years later? I feel like I'm missing some lore here.


You forget that Wynne's case is something that had never been seen before. She could feel the spirit weakening but there was really no telling what could happen.

I would assume that she doesn't exert the spirit during that timespan.(She has no reason to that we know of.)

Also the reason she dies is apparently because she uses the spirit to revive Rhys' lover, Evangeline after she's mortally wounded.

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Wynne makes direct reference to what she said in DAO in the book. She explains she just assumed it was a temporary reprieve because she thought the "second chance" the spirit offered her was to help end the Blight. When she did this and was still alive she realised that wasn't the reason the spirit saved her. In fact it would seem that the spirit was going to keep her alive until Wynne felt the time was right to relinquish it. Strangely enough this would seem to tie into what David Gaider said about Anders - that if he really wanted to give up Justice then he could - but if he did so then it would result in his death. When Wynne is in the Fade she still has conscious control but when the spirit does take over it has awesome power and there is no sign outside the Fade that Wynne is weakening in the way she describes in Origins, so it may be it was because the relationship was so new at that time and by the time of Asunder the spirit has settled in and strengthened their bond.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...
Also the reason she dies is apparently because she uses the spirit to revive Rhys' lover, Evangeline after she's mortally wounded.


Yeah, she actually wills the spirit into Evangeline's body (which kills Wynne).

The spirit is now a part of Evangeline.

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jlb524 wrote...
Yeah, she actually wills the spirit into Evangeline's body (which kills Wynne).

The question is that canon? David Gaider said the books or comics
have their own canon.
So did he really killed Wynne forever or only for the book?

And what if Wynne is killed in DAO? Evangeline (if she plays a role in the future of course)
doesn´t have the spirit inside her.

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Jamie_edmo

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 Evangeline will be a companion in the upcoming DA2 Expansion pack
You heard it here first folks ;)

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Janus198 wrote...
The question is that canon? David Gaider said the books or comics
have their own canon.
So did he really killed Wynne forever or only for the book?


Wynne is killed forever regardless...if she survived DA:O, she's dead now.

Janus198 wrote... 
And what if Wynne is killed in DAO? Evangeline (if she plays a role in the future of course)
doesn´t have the spirit inside her.


Nope...unless they make it canon that Wynne survived DA:O regardless...which makes more sense to me than Leliana surviving regardless, given the nature of Wynne's spirit.

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So the book is its own canon as in it doesnt take our playthroughs and choices into consideration but the events do take place in the DA universe, so it is possible that it will get a mention in DA3, is this right?

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Jamie_edmo wrote...
So the book is its own canon as in it doesnt take our playthroughs and choices into consideration but the events do take place in the DA universe, so it is possible that it will get a mention in DA3, is this right?


I believe so.

Well, not many specifics were given about the Warden (and none about Hawke) besides that the Warden traveled with Wynne and Shale until the end (both were present when the Archdemon was slain).

But Wynne is very important to the Asunder plotline...if she's dead, I'm not sure how the ending (both mages and templars break away from the Chantry) could have been achieved.

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Janus198 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
Yeah, she actually wills the spirit into Evangeline's body (which kills Wynne).

The question is that canon? David Gaider said the books or comics
have their own canon.
So did he really killed Wynne forever or only for the book?

And what if Wynne is killed in DAO? Evangeline (if she plays a role in the future of course)
doesn´t have the spirit inside her.


Maybe she doesn't actually die when the Warden fights her. If the spirit was what kept her alive, arguably she could be immortal as long as she has the spirit inside of her body.

Which means that Anders could very well be alive if he was shanked by Hawke.

I wonder what we should call mages like that.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 23 décembre 2011 - 01:24 .


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Jamie_edmo wrote...

So the book is its own canon as in it doesnt take our playthroughs and choices into consideration but the events do take place in the DA universe, so it is possible that it will get a mention in DA3, is this right?


This makes my head hurt...


I'm glad that the new book discusses Wynne. A lot of people hate on her as being annoying and lecturing all the time, but I thought of her as a teacher, someone you could learn a lot from, especially for my canon Warden who knew her from the Tower and where she actually might have BEEN his teacher.


I play all my canon characters as mages, so I'm really tied to the ones the other mage companions in the game.

Except Anders. That guy can DIAF.