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[Corker]

For what it's worth, I don't write fanfic as practice for anything. Writing as much as I have over the past 1.5 years may be convincing me that I *could* make a go at publishing, but right now? Pffft. Publishing would entail submissions, rejections, possible acceptance - yay! - but then deadlines and editors and revisions, revisions, revisions. You know, *work.* And I'm having too much fun playing.

I don't see anything wrong with writing fanfic for practice, but I also don't see anything wrong with doing it because it's fun, either. My day job and my parenting are my Srsbzns Contribution to Society. I don't have to justify the elf porn as anything other than self-gratification which happens to *also* bring some enjoyment to others.

[rickf7666]

Corker wrote...

ColorMeSuprised wrote...


By the way, there is something I always wanted to know. Why did the Americans start to use the German "über" as a prefix eventhough you cannot write the ü and I always have to read uber. Do you know how confusing that was when I first saw that?

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse ****. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."

--James D. Nicoll

So what James is saying is that English is a criminal, and a violent one at that.

As for German, well when I was nineteen I was in the US Air Force stationed in Germany.  After two years I had barely learned any of the language, which frustrated the Germans who worked in my shop.  Every morning they would greet me in German and I would stare blankly at them.  What was wrong with me?  I think as the first time away from home there was just too much "new" for me to process and the thing that was constantly rejected by my feeble lttle brain was the German language.  I have thought ever since that it would be nice to make up for that short coming by learning German.  Still pending.

[Merilsell]

Corker wrote...

For what it's worth, I don't write fanfic as practice for anything. Writing as much as I have over the past 1.5 years may be convincing me that I *could* make a go at publishing, but right now? Pffft. Publishing would entail submissions, rejections, possible acceptance - yay! - but then deadlines and editors and revisions, revisions, revisions. You know, *work.* And I'm having too much fun playing.

I don't see anything wrong with writing fanfic for practice, but I also don't see anything wrong with doing it because it's fun, either. My day job and my parenting are my Srsbzns Contribution to Society. I don't have to justify the elf porn as anything other than self-gratification which happens to *also* bring some enjoyment to others.

Word.

I write because it is fun and a fulfilling hobby where you see your improvement. I have no ambition whatsoever to rise to a professional level (read: to do it for a living), but yet I try to make my FF's as enjoyable and good as possible for myself and my reader. I'm quite nit-picking/ somewhat perfectionist with my writing, but I seriously lack the interest to become a professional author, nor do I think I'm good enough. I write because I love to write and have no pressure attached to it, others than my own. And I love it in that way. <3

Also...fellow German here. Great discussion, y'all.

[Arkatera]

I don't know if anyone's posted it yet, but David Gaider tweeted:

@davidgaider
"I have my top five, and my winner. Well done, everyone. Those were some difficult choices."
16 hours ago via web

Excitement!

[wangxiuming]

Good luck everybody!

[Will Shred]

There's a difference though between wanting to write for a living and wanting to write original works that get published. I have no desire whatsoever for the former, but am very much interested in the latter. And yeah, I absolutely write fanfiction because it's *fun*. It consumes way too much of my personal time to bother with if it was merely an exercise. Having a practical purpose to the hobby/fun is just part of it. But then again, that's my personality in general. Having a purpose/goal is part of what keeps me motivated and pushing myself to improve at all kinds of things.

[Corker]

Yep, it's all good. I just hear "I just write fanfic for practice" so often, and often with the connotation that it's not a fit hobby to pursue on its own. I think it is, and I just like to make sure that side of the coin is also heard.

Edit: And talk about overwrought metaphors!  Can you even hear a side of a coin?  XD

Modifié par Corker, 29 janvier 2012 - 08:22 .

[Aenne]

Going along with the fanfiction discussion, what do you guys think of writing RPs?

I find it a very enjoyable way to write with lots of different writers and create a character and watch it grow. I know it can have a bad connotation however. But like with fanfiction it's all about finding good writers.

[BrennaCeDria]

Corker wrote...

Yep, it's all good. I just hear "I just write fanfic for practice" so often, and often with the connotation that it's not a fit hobby to pursue on its own. I think it is, and I just like to make sure that side of the coin is also heard.

Edit: And talk about overwrought metaphors!  Can you even hear a side of a coin?  XD

I'm in the middle on the "fics for practice" fence.

While I've read fics for about a decade now, I've never written any until this most recent NaNoWriMo, which was my first time ever participating in that event. I'd planned on writing something original for the event, then plans fell through late on November 2nd. Instead of giving up before starting, I figured I'd use my head canon for DA:O as an outline instead "for the practice"--mostly just to see if I was actually capable of going from outline to 50k words in 30 days. Turns out, if I hadn't taken days off in between, I could have done it in 23 or less! Now I continue fic writing just because that one head canon fic isn't done yet. When it is, I'll edit it properly (content and structure) and I'll be taking advantage of the no charge/just-pay-shipping print on demand to get one copy of  my "novel" just to prove to myself that I'm actually capable of doing it and to have it on MY shelf.

That said, once this fic is done, I probably won't start another, with the possible exception of contests like this and other one-shots. Instead, I'll begin preparations for NaNo 2012, with the goal of ACTUALLY self-publishing the result of that.

It's still going to be just a hobby, but I want to be able to say that I've done it.

[thesnowtigress]

Funny. I stop lurking for a day and all this! I just want to pop in and congratulate everyone for participating in this contest, not just the future winners. =)

I speak English, but I am the product of a Quebecois mother and Mohawk father. Go figure. French is mostly a pain in the butt - the Bescherelle, your best friend and your worst enemy.

But Mohawk (proper name for language is Kanienkeha)... very difficult language, and a dying one at that. I imagine when I am an old lady I will think with regret about hearing my father, grandparents conversing in that language. *Le sigh*

[ColorMeSuprised]

Will Shred wrote...

There's a difference though between wanting to write for a living and wanting to write original works that get published.

/This

I would like to once walk into a bookstore and see my book in a shelf. That I can not make a living of it, I do know. I'm working and in about a year I will be a certified chemistry laboratory assistant which I am really proud of. Doesn't mean I don't want to sell my books, still.

I write fanfiction for fun, yes. Actually, I write fanfiction, when I'm stuck with my current book/novelle/wannabe-published book or when I just want to write something else for a change. No harm in that.

rickf7666 wrote...
As for German, well when I was nineteen I was in the US Air Force stationed in Germany.  After two years I had barely learned any of the language, which frustrated the Germans who worked in my shop.

If it were me, I would probably ignorantly assume you just have no interest in learning the language. And then I would have taken you by the hand and hammered at least a greeting into your head. I'm not really the most sensitive person on earth...

Scrimgeour10 wrote...

I study german at uni, and spent a year in heidelberg last year. I love the languange, and in terms of grammar I actually enjoy it because when you learn the rules then it allmakes a lot of sense. Never attempted any of the romance languages though.

Romance languages? As in Latin?

ArkadyRose wrote...
I like French--I heard someone say that French starts out hard and gets easy, while Spanish starts out easy and gets hard. My Spanish is limited to "The adults are cooking rice in the kitchen," but I bet it's true.

At least with French it was the other way around. It started of easy and with the tenses it failed me. I don't want to lie but I think French has a pretty messed up way of using tenses when spoken or when written. So when you write something in the past tense you use a different form, but if someone speaks in what you write it's again something else.

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 29 janvier 2012 - 09:04 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Corker wrote...

For what it's worth, I don't write fanfic as practice for anything. Writing as much as I have over the past 1.5 years may be convincing me that I *could* make a go at publishing, but right now? Pffft. Publishing would entail submissions, rejections, possible acceptance - yay! - but then deadlines and editors and revisions, revisions, revisions. You know, *work.* And I'm having too much fun playing.

What she said.

Edit: Fanfic writing can be good practise for writing skills, just like any writing. But I do it because I like to, not with the goal of improving.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 29 janvier 2012 - 09:17 .

[Corker]

Aenne wrote...
Going along with the fanfiction discussion, what do you guys think of writing RPs?
 

I take it you mean play-by-post (PbP) gaming, and not stories written in support of a tabletop RP? 

I've done both.  In fact, from 1999 untilllll hey, this fandom, just about all my writing was PbP games.  I got started in Yahoo Clubs (remember when there were Yahoo Clubs?), moved to EZboard, tried LJ for a while, and then EZBoard became Yuku.  Good times.

I started off in a wide-open freeform game, with no mods and no rules, and quickly decided it wasn't for me.  Mostly since then, I've run games: 1-4 players, no more, all of whom I know to be (edit: at least) decent writers and/or role-players, who can be counted on to understand storytelling and not god-mod all over the place.  As the gamemaster (GM), I post on a set schedule, usually Monday-Wednesday-Friday, so there's no need for people to hover over their keyboards and refresh.  I'm not into really big communities with really fast-moving boards; personal preference.

I've also played in a few, ranging from similar freeform games to some where a GM actually rolled dice between turns.  Didn't think the latter would work, but it actually did.

It's a lot of fun for me, but it also trained me to write in short bursts, and to rely on other writers to help me keep things moving.  Getting back to writing things that were all from my own head after a decade of PbP was a bit of a speedbump to get over. 

Also edit: One of the most impressive cases of writerly improvement I've ever witnessed was a friend of mine in a PbP.  He's dyslexic, never read much.  Great role-player, good head for narrative and storytelling, just problems with spelling, punctuation and sentence structure.  He'd send his posts to me for concrit, and I'd write him guide on comma use and such, and by heaven, he used them.

Years after a game ended, I forwarded him one of his own posts for a tabletop game we were running, and he read it over and asked, "I wrote that?  But it's... it's really good!"  And it was.  He really did an awesome job.

Modifié par Corker, 29 janvier 2012 - 09:33 .

[BrennaCeDria]

Corker wrote...

Aenne wrote...
Going along with the fanfiction discussion, what do you guys think of writing RPs?
 

I take it you mean play-by-post (PbP) gaming, and not stories written in support of a tabletop RP? 

I've done both.  In fact, from 1999 untilllll hey, this fandom, just about all my writing was PbP games.  I got started in Yahoo Clubs (remember when there were Yahoo Clubs?), moved to EZboard, tried LJ for a while, and then EZBoard became Yuku.  Good times.

I started off in a wide-open freeform game, with no mods and no rules, and quickly decided it wasn't for me.  Mostly since then, I've run games: 1-4 players, no more, all of whom I know to be decent writers and/or role-players, who can be counted on to understand storytelling and not god-mod all over the place.  As the gamemaster (GM), I post on a set schedule, usually Monday-Wednesday-Friday, so there's no need for people to hover over their keyboards and refresh.  I'm not into really big communities with really fast-moving boards; personal preference.

I've also played in a few, ranging from similar freeform games to some where a GM actually rolled dice between turns.  Didn't think the latter would work, but it actually did.

It's a lot of fun for me, but it also trained me to write in short bursts, and to rely on other writers to help me keep things moving.  Getting back to writing things that were all from my own head after a decade of PbP was a bit of a speedbump to get over. 

I used to be in an awesome EZboard PbP. God, I wish I could access those old posts, I had some killer stuff there that I could adapt fairly easily.

[Scrimgeour10]

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

Romance languages? As in Latin?

Yeah (Vulgar)Latin-based languages, like French, Spanish, Portugese, Italian etc. I've never attempted any of those. Been doing German for about 8 or 9 years now, did Swedish for a year which was really interesting - similar to both German and English in different ways, but I found myself getting very confused with it, perhaps because I'd already been doing German for 6 years and I was transferring rules over from one language to another.

[Aenne]

BrennaCeDria wrote...

Corker wrote...

Aenne wrote...
Going along with the fanfiction discussion, what do you guys think of writing RPs?
 

I take it you mean play-by-post (PbP) gaming, and not stories written in support of a tabletop RP? 

I've done both.  In fact, from 1999 untilllll hey, this fandom, just about all my writing was PbP games.  I got started in Yahoo Clubs (remember when there were Yahoo Clubs?), moved to EZboard, tried LJ for a while, and then EZBoard became Yuku.  Good times.

I started off in a wide-open freeform game, with no mods and no rules, and quickly decided it wasn't for me.  Mostly since then, I've run games: 1-4 players, no more, all of whom I know to be decent writers and/or role-players, who can be counted on to understand storytelling and not god-mod all over the place.  As the gamemaster (GM), I post on a set schedule, usually Monday-Wednesday-Friday, so there's no need for people to hover over their keyboards and refresh.  I'm not into really big communities with really fast-moving boards; personal preference.

I've also played in a few, ranging from similar freeform games to some where a GM actually rolled dice between turns.  Didn't think the latter would work, but it actually did.

It's a lot of fun for me, but it also trained me to write in short bursts, and to rely on other writers to help me keep things moving.  Getting back to writing things that were all from my own head after a decade of PbP was a bit of a speedbump to get over. 

I used to be in an awesome EZboard PbP. God, I wish I could access those old posts, I had some killer stuff there that I could adapt fairly easily.

Yep, those are the ones! 

I've got a hankering to do one again...and with all this Dragon Age stuff...I want a Dragon Age RP.

[ArkadyRose]

I've done freeform RP via IM, including multiplayer in IRC chatrooms. It's good fun. Sadly had to stop when my youngest was born, as the people I was RPing with were in Australia, the US and Canada so I was usually RPing till late at night UK time, and you can't do that with a new baby.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

There are a couple of Dragon Age RPs around. A few of them have been pimped in the DA:O Community Creations section of the forum. You won't be able to post in that area without game registration, but you'll still be able to find the threads.

I can't vouch for if they're any good since I don't play in them, but a couple of them seem to be quite active.

@Corker - That's awesome about your friend.

[soozling]

Aenne wrote...

Going along with the fanfiction discussion, what do you guys think of writing RPs?

I find it a very enjoyable way to write with lots of different writers and create a character and watch it grow. I know it can have a bad connotation however. But like with fanfiction it's all about finding good writers.

I met my husband through one. Anyone use to be in QFGC? I was a lowly thief. He was the chief thief. We've been married for 6 or 7 years now. <3

[Serwayn Fletcher]

Just a quick note here to thank anyone who's been re-posting the latest update every page or so. This is a busy thread, and if you step back for a day and then come back to 5+ new pages, it's tough to figure out what the Sam Hill is going on here.

That said, I want to know what the female equivalent is for Arishok, or, if it's just, Arishok for both genders. I'd love to be an Arishaa, an Arishani, an Arishoka, etc. But, Arishok...just as cool.

[ColorMeSuprised]

Serwayn Fletcher wrote...

That said, I want to know what the female equivalent is for Arishok, or, if it's just, Arishok for both genders. I'd love to be an Arishaa, an Arishani, an Arishoka, etc. But, Arishok...just as cool.

Priest is probably the highest a female might reach with the qunari. I don't think there is an equivalent for an Arishok since woman are not allowed to fight and therefore cannot have the position of an Arishok.

I think...

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:11 .

[BrennaCeDria]

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

Serwayn Fletcher wrote...

That said, I want to know what the female equivalent is for Arishok, or, if it's just, Arishok for both genders. I'd love to be an Arishaa, an Arishani, an Arishoka, etc. But, Arishok...just as cool.

Priest is probably the highest a female might reach with the qunari. I don't think there is an equivalent for an Arishok since woman are not allowed to fight and therefore cannot have the position of an Arishok.

I think...

Yeah, women are priests, shopkeepers, etc under the Qun, according to Sten if you play a female Warden in DA:O. From what I understand, their entire society is ruled by a council of three leaders: Arishok, in charge of the warriors, is always male; the Ariqun, in charge of the priests, can be male or female; and the Arigena, always female, is in charge of craftsmen, etc.

Fake edit: 
http://dragonage.wik.../Qunari#Society 

[Mande Gray]

soozling wrote...

Aenne wrote...

Going along with the fanfiction discussion, what do you guys think of writing RPs?

I find it a very enjoyable way to write with lots of different writers and create a character and watch it grow. I know it can have a bad connotation however. But like with fanfiction it's all about finding good writers.

I met my husband through one. Anyone use to be in QFGC? I was a lowly thief. He was the chief thief. We've been married for 6 or 7 years now. <3

!!  I met my hubby in the QFGC too!  He was the chief Paladin (Jeron), and I... couldn't stick to one character.    Hubby and I still talk to a TON of the QFGC folks (Dayn, Sharkus, Debs, Cid, etc.).  We haven't been involved for AGES.  We were mainly active in the club in the late 90s (Jeron, anyway) and early 2000s.

This is too cool for words!  So great to run into another QFGCer. 

[Aenne]

soozling wrote...

Aenne wrote...

Going along with the fanfiction discussion, what do you guys think of writing RPs?

I find it a very enjoyable way to write with lots of different writers and create a character and watch it grow. I know it can have a bad connotation however. But like with fanfiction it's all about finding good writers.

I met my husband through one. Anyone use to be in QFGC? I was a lowly thief. He was the chief thief. We've been married for 6 or 7 years now. <3

D'awww!!  That's great!  

Thanks for the info on the on the DA RPs too, I shall look into them! 

[soozling]

Mande Gray wrote...

!!  I met my hubby in the QFGC too!  He was the chief Paladin (Jeron), and I... couldn't stick to one character.    Hubby and I still talk to a TON of the QFGC folks (Dayn, Sharkus, Debs, Cid, etc.).  We haven't been involved for AGES.  We were mainly active in the club in the late 90s (Jeron, anyway) and early 2000s.

This is too cool for words!  So great to run into another QFGCer. 

WOAH. Small world! I bet you still talk to my husband too. He was Dreigen. I played as Kyra Hart. I still chat with Dayn and Debs on FB lots.