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[C9316]

*Gets popcorn* Well since it's obvious the OP is trolling his ass off, shall we post ponies?

[Donnstar]

soccerchick wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

Excuse me. Are you not reading my posts. I was nice enough not to just reverse your incredibly silly argument.

"what DO U HAS" could've easily stalemated this argument. 

Now, this argument is about MY opinion then I don't need a team of scientists and mathmaticians to make conclusions. What I have is far from nothing. I didn't flip a coin. I took all the data avaliable and made my own conclusion. If this is not good enough for you, then leave.

Secondly. I still do not understand how looking at the forums, seeing the group numbers isn't a GOOD representation of the demographic. 

Sorry, we aren't going to get "offical" numbers ever. Deal with it.

I have.  You're the one hung up on gay romances, not me.  Your false indignation was almost amusing.  If you really cared what anyone thought you wouldn't post these threads.  You do this for reaction.

Usually your arguments are slightly better constructed, but this one is simply below even your astonishingly low bar.  I called you on that, my job is done.  I proved my point, you squirm pointlessly in denial because the person making the claim has to provide the proof.

Which you have not, and cannot.  Point, set, match.

You are wasting my time now.

My claim; gays are minority here.

If you're asking for absolute proof. Sorry, that's not even plausible.


I gave you why they are the minority, but apparently, all is "dismissable" because it's not absolute. I find your "position" annoying. If a great amount of evidence isn't enough for you, then go about your business.

I provided proof, it's just not "offical" enough for you.

What's in question is not "Gay's are a minority?"; What IS in question is "Are S/S romances a waste of resources?"
Using your methods of looking around at the general forums, counting heads, then adding it all up based on whatever ****ed-up math just came into my head, I can safely say, No, it is not a waste of resources.
Have a splendid life.:innocent:

Woah. A claim and a argument are two different things.

I use facts to back up my argument; gays minority
my argument however, can not be proven 'right'. It's just an opinion guys. That's what debate is.

Now, i'll restate my argument. since gays are a minority, allocating resources to appeal them would be a waste, wouldn't it? Isn't that the definition of wasting? Using resources where they aren't needed?

It is a waste of resources, you lack a good argument. I however, have one.

[Flashflame58]

C9316 wrote...

*Gets popcorn* Well since it's obvious the OP is trolling his ass off, shall we post ponies?

Sure, if you'd like a taste of the banhammer. 

[C9316]

Flashflame58 wrote...

C9316 wrote...

*Gets popcorn* Well since it's obvious the OP is trolling his ass off, shall we post ponies?

Sure, if you'd like a taste of the banhammer. 

They'd ban me just for posting ponies!? That's discriminatory...

[MACharlie1]

Donnstar wrote...

Woah. A claim and a argument are two different things.

I use facts to back up my argument; gays minority
my argument however, can not be proven 'right'. It's just an opinion guys. That's what debate is.

Now, i'll restate my argument. since gays are a minority, allocating resources to appeal them would be a waste, wouldn't it? Isn't that the definition of wasting? Using resources where they aren't needed?

It is a waste of resources, you lack a good argument. I however, have one.

Please see link..

Start a group to eliminate FemShep, Engineers and 15% of dialog. 

[AdmiralCheez]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I hate humans, though. I intensely dislike talking to humans. So it would be like torture.

You do it on the internet just fine.  Just mentally replace everyone's faces with forum avatars.

...and, have to say, you wouldn't necessarily find out if you were wrong, but if people thought you were wrong. Lots of grey issues out there.

Then fact check, get informed, and retaliate with the fire and fury of a thousand suns.  Or learn that you were indeed wrong, in which case you walk away from it all less wrong than you were before.

[Donnstar]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

LISTEN CAREFULLY.


WHAT. OTHER. PROOF. CAN. BE. GOTTEN.


PLEASE tell me where I get these offical "Bioware Sexuality demographics" If not. shut your pie hole.

Oh I'm not denying homosexuals are minorities. I mean, unlike you, I can back that up with data. I'm asking for proof that a homosexual relationship added to ME3 will be half-assed. And you yourself won't answer why minorities should be left out. Because only a certain % are played? 

Based on this data...engineers and FemSheps should be left out to by your logic. 

I didn't answer because you guys didn't even make it clear. I'm just now figuring out your argument.

This is why I think it will be half-assed. the SPOILERS


confirmed s/s LI's are a bunch of npcs that come on your ship.

end spoilers.

If that's not a good example of half-assed. I don't know what else.



As to the next part of your argument. No, minorities shouldn't be left out just because they are minority. What shouldn't happen though is a slapstick appeal to cash in. Waste of resources. They'll come on the board come the release and say "WHY IS s/s content so little incomparison". IF they are going to do it, do it right.

[AdmiralCheez]

So Donnybabe, entertain us. What would ME3 look like if you were in charge?

[Ryzaki]

...why do people type SPOILERS then type the spoilers right underneath.

Le sigh.

And Steve's half assed? News to me. I thought his dialogue (what was there) was well written and awesome and sweet. (and already sounded better than most of the ME2 romances as far as I'm concerned).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 décembre 2011 - 06:13 .

[MACharlie1]

Donnstar wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

LISTEN CAREFULLY.


WHAT. OTHER. PROOF. CAN. BE. GOTTEN.


PLEASE tell me where I get these offical "Bioware Sexuality demographics" If not. shut your pie hole.

Oh I'm not denying homosexuals are minorities. I mean, unlike you, I can back that up with data. I'm asking for proof that a homosexual relationship added to ME3 will be half-assed. And you yourself won't answer why minorities should be left out. Because only a certain % are played? 

Based on this data...engineers and FemSheps should be left out to by your logic. 

I didn't answer because you guys didn't even make it clear. I'm just now figuring out your argument.

This is why I think it will be half-assed. the SPOILERS


confirmed s/s LI's are a bunch of npcs that come on your ship.

end spoilers.

If that's not a good example of half-assed. I don't know what else.



As to the next part of your argument. No, minorities shouldn't be left out just because they are minority. What shouldn't happen though is a slapstick appeal to cash in. Waste of resources. They'll come on the board come the release and say "WHY IS s/s content so little incomparison". IF they are going to do it, do it right.

Liara, and possibly Vega and the VS will be half-assed romances then? 

I mean, I can't argue that the NPCs will/won't be half-assed - I haven't seen them. And neither have you so you really can't make that arguement either. 

[Donnstar]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

So Donnybabe, entertain us. What would ME3 look like if you were in charge?

Paragon and renegade consquences.

Few romances if any. (two top per gender)

One bisexuality option

30 hours of gameplay.

No Tali.

[Donnstar]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

LISTEN CAREFULLY.


WHAT. OTHER. PROOF. CAN. BE. GOTTEN.


PLEASE tell me where I get these offical "Bioware Sexuality demographics" If not. shut your pie hole.

Oh I'm not denying homosexuals are minorities. I mean, unlike you, I can back that up with data. I'm asking for proof that a homosexual relationship added to ME3 will be half-assed. And you yourself won't answer why minorities should be left out. Because only a certain % are played? 

Based on this data...engineers and FemSheps should be left out to by your logic. 

I didn't answer because you guys didn't even make it clear. I'm just now figuring out your argument.

This is why I think it will be half-assed. the SPOILERS


confirmed s/s LI's are a bunch of npcs that come on your ship.

end spoilers.

If that's not a good example of half-assed. I don't know what else.



As to the next part of your argument. No, minorities shouldn't be left out just because they are minority. What shouldn't happen though is a slapstick appeal to cash in. Waste of resources. They'll come on the board come the release and say "WHY IS s/s content so little incomparison". IF they are going to do it, do it right.

Liara, and possibly Vega and the VS will be half-assed romances then? 

I mean, I can't argue that the NPCs will/won't be half-assed - I haven't seen them. And neither have you so you really can't make that arguement either. 

Liara is BISexual. Let me make this clear, I'm not arguing against the bisexuality li's. (that's for another topic) I'm arguing against the purely homosexual options.
Vega is not a bisexual option. he is just straight.

The ones the s/s crowd get are half-assed. They are NPC's not squadmates how "fleshed" out can they be. Use that little thing in your head and make a logical conclusion. It'd be like me expecting Shiala to have a fleshed out romance. Just not going to happen.

[AdmiralCheez]

[quote]Donnstar wrote...

Paragon and renegade consquences.[/quote]
ME3 has that.

[quote]Few romances if any. (two top per gender)[/quote]
ME1 did that.

[quote]One bisexuality option[/quote]
Why not just have one male and one female LI, both bisexual?  That way, all possibilities are accounted for, and romance content is minimized.

[quote]30 hours of gameplay.[/quote]
ME1 and 2 already had that.

[quote]No Tali.[/quote]
Division by zero.



[/quote]

[Donnstar]

franciscoamell wrote...

^We, people who play s/s romance should worry about getting half-assed, you don't need to worry your head with this, do you?

The resources could've been used to improve gameplay/dialogue/game length.

So yes, I think I can worry about waste of resources.

[FoxHound109]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Priestly closed your other troll thread, Donnstar. I sense that this one has not long to live...

We should just sit back and watch the magic that this thread will bring...

[Ryzaki]

Donnstar wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

^We, people who play s/s romance should worry about getting half-assed, you don't need to worry your head with this, do you?

The resources could've been used to improve gameplay/dialogue/game length.

So yes, I think I can worry about waste of resources.

Not really. The resources used to make LIs isn't that much.

Say for DA2. They would've had to strip all the romances (s/s and o/s) just to have enough content to make 1 additional character. (I think that's what one of the devs said).

[DrFumb1ezX]

Donnstar wrote...

soccerchick wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

Excuse me. Are you not reading my posts. I was nice enough not to just reverse your incredibly silly argument.

"what DO U HAS" could've easily stalemated this argument. 

Now, this argument is about MY opinion then I don't need a team of scientists and mathmaticians to make conclusions. What I have is far from nothing. I didn't flip a coin. I took all the data avaliable and made my own conclusion. If this is not good enough for you, then leave.

Secondly. I still do not understand how looking at the forums, seeing the group numbers isn't a GOOD representation of the demographic. 

Sorry, we aren't going to get "offical" numbers ever. Deal with it.

I have.  You're the one hung up on gay romances, not me.  Your false indignation was almost amusing.  If you really cared what anyone thought you wouldn't post these threads.  You do this for reaction.

Usually your arguments are slightly better constructed, but this one is simply below even your astonishingly low bar.  I called you on that, my job is done.  I proved my point, you squirm pointlessly in denial because the person making the claim has to provide the proof.

Which you have not, and cannot.  Point, set, match.

You are wasting my time now.

My claim; gays are minority here.

If you're asking for absolute proof. Sorry, that's not even plausible.


I gave you why they are the minority, but apparently, all is "dismissable" because it's not absolute. I find your "position" annoying. If a great amount of evidence isn't enough for you, then go about your business.

I provided proof, it's just not "offical" enough for you.

What's in question is not "Gay's are a minority?"; What IS in question is "Are S/S romances a waste of resources?"
Using your methods of looking around at the general forums, counting heads, then adding it all up based on whatever ****ed-up math just came into my head, I can safely say, No, it is not a waste of resources.
Have a splendid life.:innocent:

Woah. A claim and a argument are two different things.

I use facts to back up my argument; gays minority
my argument however, can not be proven 'right'. It's just an opinion guys. That's what debate is.

Now, i'll restate my argument. since gays are a minority, allocating resources to appeal them would be a waste, wouldn't it? Isn't that the definition of wasting? Using resources where they aren't needed?

It is a waste of resources, you lack a good argument. I however, have one.

But I used the exact same method you did for coming up with facts, and they said that a majority want/don't mind S/S romances. How could I possibly be wrong with those kind of facts on my side?<_<

Based on the stats that MACharlie1 posted, then FemShep, Engineer, and certain dialogue choices should just be tossed out.
*opens door, points toward FemShep players*
Do you want to be the one to tell all those players that since they are a minority, and therefore not worthy of "resources" being wasted on them, Bioware's cutting out Femshep entirely?

[Donnstar]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Donnstar wrote...

Paragon and renegade consquences.

ME3 has that.

No it does not.

Few romances if any. (two top per gender)

ME1 did that.

I liked it that way.

One bisexuality option

Why not just have one male and one female LI, both bisexual?  That way, all possibilities are accounted for, and romance content is minimized.

cause that's silly. The world isn't filled to the brim with bisexuals.

30 hours of gameplay.

ME1 and 2 already had that.

yeah right. Maybe if you were playing with one hand.

No Tali.

Division by zero.

Or Kasumi

[Ryzaki]

@soccerchick: You trying to kill the poor guy? The FemShep players will tear him limb from limb!

Wait...the 2 LIs being bisexual means the world is filled with bisexuals?

How does that logic work? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 21 décembre 2011 - 06:20 .