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[Meris]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Not entirely....the UI is pretty bad and the skill trees are unbalanced, although not useless.

Oh yeah, the UI is kind of bad and though I don't care, its another perfectly valid criticism. As for skil trees, not one being useless is an advance from Oblivion and the need for balance is arguable: as long as the IWIN buttons are kept to a minimun, I'm happy.

[Realmzmaster]

Having played Skyrim for only about ten hours, the PC UI is bad. Defenders keep saying the modding community will take care of that, but the point is it should not have to take care of it. If you are going to release a game on all platforms then you should take the time to make sure that the UI and control system are geared to that platform.

Not counting the lag problems on the PS3 due to saves. Somewhere QC was lacking or someone just said lets get it out there and we will fix the problems later.

[Yrkoon]

Blackshayde wrote...

I'm so tired of Bethesda fanboys touting Skyrim as the best RPG ever, its not, its far from it and DA2 is much, much better. 

Lmao

I love this forum.  Someone should make a  reality show out of it

Modifié par Yrkoon, 31 décembre 2011 - 03:23 .

[Realmzmaster]

Yrkoon wrote...

Blackshayde wrote...

I'm so tired of Bethesda fanboys touting Skyrim as the best RPG ever, its not, its far from it and DA2 is much, much better. 

Lmao

I love this forum.  Someone should make a  reality show out of it

It is his opinion. Everyone else can ignore it, approve of it or disapprove of it.

[Yrkoon]

Yep, someone should make a TV show out of this place.

[1136342t54_]

Blackshayde wrote...

I'm so tired of Bethesda fanboys touting Skyrim as the best RPG ever, its not, its far from it and DA2 is much, much better. 

Both games are far from best RPG ever. Hell DAO wasn't even close (although many claim it as the title). Skyrim has many problems but the reasons why I accept Skyrim's problems easily is because many of Bethesdas games have many problems especially with story and Bethesda will bring out a new game with a large sandbox esque world with plenty of bugs but I can still have a lot of fun. Almost enough to ignore plenty of the annoying crap with the story and choices for at least one playthrough.

Edit: My ideal RPG would result in combining Bethesda, Bioware and probably Square Enix (maybe add Obsidian in it but that would just be too much lol) and allow them multiple crap loads of resources to make a truly magnificent RPG with a large world and incredibly stories.

Although they may as well turn it into a MMO at that point.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 31 décembre 2011 - 03:54 .

[Augustei]

IanPolaris wrote...
Isn't it?  It seems to me that Bioware has spent much of this past years stepping on themselves and what they've said (and haven't said) so much that it's almost impossible to know anymore what they are thinking (and the sardonic part of me wonders IF they are thinking sometimes...)  I certainly wouldn't put it past Bioware to think that they can "save" DA3 by making it like Skyrim.  It's not like they'd be the first Developer to make that particular error....

-Polaris

Nor the first time they've made that error themselves.. Like when they Mass Effected Dragon Age 2.

[Dragoonlordz]

1136342t54 wrote...

Edit: My ideal RPG would result in combining Bethesda, Bioware and probably Square Enix (maybe add Obsidian in it but that would just be too much lol) and allow them multiple crap loads of resources to make a truly magnificent RPG with a large world and incredibly stories.

Although they may as well turn it into a MMO at that point.

I would prefer if was collaboration between Bethesda and CDPR. Bioware have gone downhill recently with regards to quality in their titles of which they attracted my attention and admiration for BG, NWN, ME1 and DAO but started to lose me at ME2 (while mechanics of the game were good it seriously was worse quality storytelling and writing for me aswell as some aspects added like the retarded planet scanning). With DA2 anyone who says did not lack quality of previous titles is simply deluded imho.

With the recent trend of branching out into MMO's, C&C and very likely trend of sticking with for the most part DA2 horrible direction for DA3 I have nasty feeling ME3 may be last game I buy from them as they get relegated to 4th/5th rated developer for my genre of choice (RPG) behind CDPR and Bethesda and few others. This is shame but of their own doing and fault as they were once to me 1st/2nd rated to me for genre (RPG). The dependant on whether 4th or 5th comes down to if Squeenix can pull of fixing FF with the promises they made about the next title and how level-5 continues to develop.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 31 décembre 2011 - 04:06 .

[Chuvvy]

I don't think they actually mean it. They're just saying it, they wanted Call of Duty's audience because it sold so well. DA2 sold well in the beginning, then sales dropped off quickly and RPGs were becoming "less relevant". Then Skyrim makes 650 million USDs and ships ten million units and RPGs are alive and well and they'll be taking ques from Skyrim.

[Jerrybnsn]

The first thing that I would like to see in Dragon Age III that shows they were influenced by Bethesda, is when I start the game and it says...Choose your race.

[alex90c]

Blackshayde wrote...

I'm so tired of Bethesda fanboys touting Skyrim as the best RPG ever, its not, its far from it and DA2 is much, much better.

hahahahahahaha

Skyrim is the most overhyped, overrated RPG of all time, hands down.

hahahahahahaha

The combat is boring

yup, those waves were so much better

imagine the joy on my face when I obliterated like 20 mooks in 2 seconds just to see another 20 teleport in (sometimes not even with the jumping animation, they literally materialised)

magic is useless

...then don't play a magic class

companions are idiotic

yup, DA2 didn't have idiocy at all. it's not as if it ran rampant among all of the antagonists, protagonist, companions and pretty much every NPC. "oh look, a bag full of body parts ... I think i'll ignore this for three years as it is not important!"

the menu system is awkward,

it definitely takes a while to get used to

and most of the skills and spells are completely useless

oh man that smithing skill, so useless 

not to mention the bugs. You are retarded if you think Skyrim is even a "good" RPG.

remember the DA2 bug where if you get isabela's friendship modifier it actually slows you down? like, to snail pace?

remember that bug where bethany and isabela have wrinkly 800 year old ha- oh wait that isn't a bug is it :lol:

[Thoth_Amon]

"Hey, you know that game that's outsold both of our last two games combined? Yeah, we want to take things from that."

[TEWR]

Blackshayde wrote...

I'm so tired of Bethesda fanboys touting Skyrim as the best RPG ever,

I wouldn't call it the best, but certainly far better than DAII was.

its not, its far from it and DA2 is much, much better.

Your opinion, and I disagree with it immensely.

Skyrim is the most overhyped, overrated RPG of all time, hands down. The combat is boring, magic is useless, companions are idiotic, the menu system is awkward, and most of the skills and spells are completely useless,

I wouldn't say the combat in Skyrim is boring. I've had some intense battles going on even though I prefer DAII's faster animations.

Magic isn't that useless. Fast Healing comes in really handy when I'm facing a Draugr Death Overlord, the staff of Jyrik Gauldurson allows me to dish out some heavy damage provided I have enough soul gems to recharge it, summoning Atronarchs comes in handy to help me deal with enemies, and even the basic spells help if you think about it.

Perhaps not as much as I'd like, but it still helps. 

Also, I disagree that the companions are idiotic. I happen to find Aela the Huntress to be my favorite companion by far.

In terms of Skyrim's companions, I think the three main companions -- Aela, Vilkas, and Farkas -- in the Companions had some depth to their character.

I think Bethesda could definitely give the companions in their games some depth if they really tried. Would it be Bioware companions depth? Probably not.

not to mention the bugs. You are retarded if you think Skyrim is even a "good" RPG.

DAII had a crapload of gamebreaking bugs. Namely the Isabela one that slowed down Hawke like he was a part of the Matrix.

And now the corrupted save thing inherent in those gamers that bought MotA.

And I didn't realize I was retarded if I found a game enjoyable

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 04 janvier 2012 - 05:42 .

[Il Divo]

1136342t54 wrote...

Blackshayde wrote...

I'm so tired of Bethesda fanboys touting Skyrim as the best RPG ever, its not, its far from it and DA2 is much, much better. 

Both games are far from best RPG ever. Hell DAO wasn't even close (although many claim it as the title). Skyrim has many problems but the reasons why I accept Skyrim's problems easily is because many of Bethesdas games have many problems especially with story and Bethesda will bring out a new game with a large sandbox esque world with plenty of bugs but I can still have a lot of fun. Almost enough to ignore plenty of the annoying crap with the story and choices for at least one playthrough.

Edit: My ideal RPG would result in combining Bethesda, Bioware and probably Square Enix (maybe add Obsidian in it but that would just be too much lol) and allow them multiple crap loads of resources to make a truly magnificent RPG with a large world and incredibly stories.

Although they may as well turn it into a MMO at that point.

Agreed. It comes down to what you go to each developer for. If an action film fails at delivering a quality romantic sub-plot, I might accept it as a flaw and move on. If an action film fails at delivering quality action/fight sequences, I'm more likely to take issue.

I thought Skyrim's plot, from both a presentation and character-development standpoint, was much, much worse than DA2. But since that's not Bethesda's forte`, I don't consider it a big deal. DA2 in many ways failed to deliver a coherent plotline, but since that is Bioware's more common emphasis, it's a bigger problem.

[Atakuma]

Skyrim is a mediocre game, but at least it is consistently mediocre, unlike DA2, which got downright awful at times. The only valuable thing bioware can glean from Skyrim is how to take your time and build anticipation.

[TEWR]

If there's one plus I think Skyrim definitely deserves, it's the music. I could listen to the music at the main menu for hours.

[LinksOcarina]

Meh...the music in Skyrim is ok...other than the opening and dragon fight music, everything else is kinda boring.

[mythlover20]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

*snip*

But I think DA:2 , more then anything needs to go back too a DA:O type.
*snip*

Agreed. Bioware needs to focus more on story than anything. The DA:O model fits the lore a lot better than DA2. The characters in DA2 were (BLASPHEMY) rather flat and uninteresting. (I still love Fenris, Merril and Isabella, don't worry!)

On other notes, I did like the combat in DA2 more than I did in DA:O, at least on the PS3, but I didn't like the skill trees.  There seemed to be less choice than there was in Origins. I really missed moulding the other teammates to a greater degree. Take Wynne, for example. She was a healer but if I wanted to really screw with the character, I could technically make her a blood mage. I didn't, but I could have.

Speaking of Skyrim though, I think the visual style is the only thing Bioware could take inspiration from. I hate to admit it, but I prefer the Skyrim elf character design than the DA2 design. Bioware will still need to make a LOT of improvements, but it would be a start.

[Liaren]

 I don't really like the idea of BioWare looking at Skyrim and implementing features of it into DA III. I have played Skyrim and I do like it, but I love DA so much more. There are obviously things that could use improvement in DA:O as well as DA II, but at the top of my head I can't think of any feature of Skyrim that would work in DA III and improve the experience of it.

[Jerrybnsn]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Meh...the music in Skyrim is ok...other than the opening and dragon fight music, everything else is kinda boring.

I loved the ending credits' song "This is War" at the end of Origins.  First of all, I was totally blown away with the storyline concluding the way it was, and then, after listening to top notch classical music through the entirety of the game, this rockin' piece kicks in to add to the high moment I was feeling.  Awesome touch, imo.