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[JenMaxon]

V-rex wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

I find it terribly unfortunate that any woman, fictional or not who displays any type of strength is inevitably labed a "butch" or "not feminine" as my ex-GF is very strong and smart AND sexy/feminine...god we men have it easy
Also I agree that the poetic side to Ash is very cool.

Also this.

Agreed.

[android654]

Strong women are so much more appealing than innocent pure and light hearted girls. A strong woman knows how to be direct and smart enough to know when she should be humble. They're real individuals. Innocent girls need someone to hold their hand and guide them through life, which robs you of your individuality.

[Olive Oomph]

Quoting poetry out of the blue is kind of weird, but I think, this is a good thing

[1136342t54_]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

2. The VS has the nads to say that it could have been Cerberus working with the Collectors (Because a pro-human group would TOTALLY want to kidnap entire colony's worth of humans!). Cerberus must also be in cahoots with the Reapers since they apparantly had access to husks and praetorians as well, going by the VS' logic. It makes sense if you don't think about it.

But it couldn't possibly be a character flaw. It's just BAD WRITING.

Considering that Cerberus is working for the Reapers in ME3 now I'd say it isn't a out there opinion.

[AgitatedLemon]

1136342t54 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

2. The VS has the nads to say that it could have been Cerberus working with the Collectors (Because a pro-human group would TOTALLY want to kidnap entire colony's worth of humans!). Cerberus must also be in cahoots with the Reapers since they apparantly had access to husks and praetorians as well, going by the VS' logic. It makes sense if you don't think about it.

But it couldn't possibly be a character flaw. It's just BAD WRITING.

Considering that Cerberus is working for the Reapers in ME3 now I'd say it isn't a out there opinion.

Except in the 2nd game they were actively ASSISTING the colonies (Despite failing).

Ashley SEES this as well.

[Skullheart]

1136342t54 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

2. The VS has the nads to say that it could have been Cerberus working with the Collectors (Because a pro-human group would TOTALLY want to kidnap entire colony's worth of humans!). Cerberus must also be in cahoots with the Reapers since they apparantly had access to husks and praetorians as well, going by the VS' logic. It makes sense if you don't think about it.

But it couldn't possibly be a character flaw. It's just BAD WRITING.

Considering that Cerberus is working for the Reapers in ME3 now I'd say it isn't a out there opinion.

Tim and harbinger plans in during ME2:

Harbinger:  We need you to steal Shepard's body from us. Resurrect him. and give him the best crew and specialist that the galaxy has to offer.  Then send him through the Omega 4 Relay so he can destroy the human reaper that the collecors are making for us.
TIM: And how does this help us?
Harbinger: How the hell you want us to know? We are not a writer.

Modifié par Skullheart, 26 décembre 2011 - 02:58 .

[Kid Buu]

alex90c wrote...

too bad miranda isnt going to be a full squaddie then

herpderp

thank ****. MJ was the worst character in ME.

Modifié par Kid Buu, 26 décembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[Dariustwinblade]

Miri is least a much better character than KaiLey WillAnko. And not two ****ty characters compressed into two role.

[Kid Buu]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Miri is least a much better character than KaiLey WillAnko. And not two ****ty characters compressed into two role.

While Im no fan of the VS, I still believe they are far better characters than MJ.

[Dariustwinblade]

Nope, Miri is smart, competent and not blinded by ideals.

The VS is the exact opposite. Retarded, Incompetent and completely blinded by the Alliance.

[lobi]

Stardusk78 wrote...

I don't like her much, I am the first to admit it but mostly because she is very unfeminine, brutish and butch to me but why do so many people hate the poetic aspect of her, which is one of her few redeeming qualities in my eyes?

Why is she being judged by her dads taste in poetry by anyone. She recites it because the issue of her fathers actions have defined not just her youth but also her career.

Modifié par lobi, 26 décembre 2011 - 09:24 .

[Kid Buu]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Nope, Miri is smart, competent and not blinded by ideals.

The VS is the exact opposite. Retarded, Incompetent and completely blinded by the Alliance.

Im talking about the character itself. Miranda has no real personality. She is only there for sex appeal. The camera shots, for example, when you talk to her on the Normandy are insanely shameless. I also find it funny that you say she/he isnt blinded by ideals... even though thats not the case at all when it comes to cerberus.

Modifié par Kid Buu, 26 décembre 2011 - 09:29 .

[Dariustwinblade]

Wait! WHAT! Miranda has no personality but the Alliance lapdogs have. Lol care to explain.

[Kid Buu]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Wait! WHAT! Miranda has no personality but the Alliance lapdogs have. Lol care to explain.

Oh Im not here to describe their characters, Im just saying MJ is slightly worse.

[AgitatedLemon]

Kid Buu wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Nope, Miri is smart, competent and not blinded by ideals.

The VS is the exact opposite. Retarded, Incompetent and completely blinded by the Alliance.

Im talking about the character itself. Miranda has no real personality. She is only there for sex appeal. The camera shots, for example, when you talk to her on the Normandy are insanely shameless. I also find it funny that you say she/he isnt blinded by ideals... even though thats not the case at all when it comes to cerberus.

The ass shots on the Normandy are a joke.

Also, she isn't blindly devoted to Cerberus at all. She believes what they stand for very strongly, but she isn't a cultist. In fact, she loses faith in Cerberus as the game goes on, and eventually resigns.

[AgitatedLemon]

I'm going to call the Illusive Man "Tim" from now on.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 26 décembre 2011 - 09:37 .

[Kid Buu]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Nope, Miri is smart, competent and not blinded by ideals.

The VS is the exact opposite. Retarded, Incompetent and completely blinded by the Alliance.

Im talking about the character itself. Miranda has no real personality. She is only there for sex appeal. The camera shots, for example, when you talk to her on the Normandy are insanely shameless. I also find it funny that you say she/he isnt blinded by ideals... even though thats not the case at all when it comes to cerberus.

The ass shots on the Normandy are a joke.

Also, she isn't blindly devoted to Cerberus at all. She believes what they stand for very strongly, but she isn't a cultist. In fact, she loses faith in Cerberus as the game goes on, and eventually resigns.

Still helps my point. Anyway, did I say she was a cultist? No. I said she is blinded by ideals from cerberus. Also, the fact that she stops trusting cerberus at the end for no reason is more evidence that she has no real character.

Modifié par Kid Buu, 26 décembre 2011 - 09:40 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Kid Buu wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Nope, Miri is smart, competent and not blinded by ideals.

The VS is the exact opposite. Retarded, Incompetent and completely blinded by the Alliance.

Im talking about the character itself. Miranda has no real personality. She is only there for sex appeal. The camera shots, for example, when you talk to her on the Normandy are insanely shameless. I also find it funny that you say she/he isnt blinded by ideals... even though thats not the case at all when it comes to cerberus.

The ass shots on the Normandy are a joke.

Also, she isn't blindly devoted to Cerberus at all. She believes what they stand for very strongly, but she isn't a cultist. In fact, she loses faith in Cerberus as the game goes on, and eventually resigns.

Still helps my point. Anyway, did I say she was a cultist? No. I said she is blinded by ideals from cerberus. Also, the fact that she stops trusting cerberus at the end for no reason is more evidence that she has no real character.

By "She's not a cultist", I'm exagerrating her devotion towards Cerberus. L2humor.

I guess her changing her ideals based on evidence provided that MAYBE Cerberus isn't the honorable group she thought they were makes her have no real character.

Have you actually interacted with Miranda outside of doing her loyalty mission? Did you even do that?

If you can provide solid, factual evidence that She has no chracter depth, then I'll change my tune.

[Kid Buu]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

Dariustwinblade wrote...

Nope, Miri is smart, competent and not blinded by ideals.

The VS is the exact opposite. Retarded, Incompetent and completely blinded by the Alliance.

Im talking about the character itself. Miranda has no real personality. She is only there for sex appeal. The camera shots, for example, when you talk to her on the Normandy are insanely shameless. I also find it funny that you say she/he isnt blinded by ideals... even though thats not the case at all when it comes to cerberus.

The ass shots on the Normandy are a joke.

Also, she isn't blindly devoted to Cerberus at all. She believes what they stand for very strongly, but she isn't a cultist. In fact, she loses faith in Cerberus as the game goes on, and eventually resigns.

Still helps my point. Anyway, did I say she was a cultist? No. I said she is blinded by ideals from cerberus. Also, the fact that she stops trusting cerberus at the end for no reason is more evidence that she has no real character.

By "She's not a cultist", I'm exagerrating her devotion towards Cerberus. L2humor.

I guess her changing her ideals based on evidence provided that MAYBE Cerberus isn't the honorable group she thought they were makes her have no real character.

Have you actually interacted with Miranda outside of doing her loyalty mission? Did you even do that?

If you can provide solid, factual evidence that She has no chracter depth, then I'll change my tune.

I honestly dont know where to begin with the stupidity of this post.

[AgitatedLemon]

The exact same could be said of you. You haven't even began to explain why you think Miranda has no character.

All you've done so far is avoid comments.

[Kid Buu]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

The exact same could be said of you. You haven't even began to explain why you think Miranda has no character.

All you've done so far is avoid comments.

Rofl. I have had this argument too many times to care anymore. No matter what I say, you MJmancers will always deny it. So whats the point^ No matter how concrete the evidence is, you will always find a ridiculous, nonsensible way to justify it. So no, Im not having this conversation again. Its been a long time since ME2 was released, and if you havent got it yet, you never will.

Modifié par Kid Buu, 26 décembre 2011 - 10:05 .

[Skullheart]

@AgitatedLemon
Haters gonna hate, they just don't want to learn abour the characters if they hate them.
And don't listen to a clone account.

[JosephDucreux]

Kid Buu wrote...
Rofl. I have had this argument too many times to care anymore. No matter what I say, you MJmancers will always deny it. So whats the point^ No matter how concrete the evidence is, you will always find a ridiculous, nonsensible way to justify it. So no, Im not having this conversation again. Its been a long time since ME2 was released, and if you havent got it yet, you never will.

And for the record, Tali has absolutely no character in both ME1 and 2. She was nothing more than a walking codex in ME1, and she was nothing more than a pure, blatant fanservicey wa*krag fantasy for all the obese, acne riddled tween crowd which are the 99% of her fans. Thus, they've occupied BSN and drove out the 1% I really respect.

Modifié par JosephDucreux, 27 décembre 2011 - 04:22 .

[JeffZero]

Funny, my friend Jonas is a slender, socially terrific Talimancer.