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[AlexXIV]

KenKenpachi wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Seboist wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

C9316 wrote...
And people support this?

Yes.

I'm sorry, but there are just some things you don't do. Trying to enslave Rachni and Creepers seems like a given but I guess not. Same thing goes for implanting people with reaper tech...

It's called domestication not "enslavement".

No no no, domestication is what you do to animals.  Rachni are inteeligent beings so it's called "remote labor".

Yes, I'm sure all those Rachni workers, soldiers and brood warriors have a say in what their Queen has them do.

As you have a say in what your government is doing.

Actully yes. If a government oversteps its bounds, you can bring it down with force. The Rachni have no such option.

I can bring down my government with force if it oversteps its bounds? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Honestly, in theory you are right, in reality ... I wouldn't even know of it.

Also we have no idea how Rachni culture actually works, so this is all speculation and ... *looks if Dean is around* ... prejudice.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:23 .

[Seboist]

bleetman wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

"LOL let's see what happens if we lure some soldiers to a Thresher Maw pit!"

And you know that's all they were trying to do... how?

Mostly because alternative that Cerberus just, I don't know, accidentally left an Alliance distress beacon right outside a Thresher nest and waited until the response team was attacked so they could snatch up any survives for a few merry years of torturous experimentation doesn't really hold much water. If they were trying to accomplish more than what they did - which I can only assume was nothing - that neither surprises me nor excuses it.

Seboist wrote...

It's just crap writing on BW's part, like the squad(especially Wrex) not knowing what a Rachni looks like.

Oh, man, don't remind me about that. I cringed.

Not really buying into the idea that whenever Cerberus looks like incompetant fools, it's because of 'bad writing' though.

Not bad writing per say, more that it shows how uncreative the writers are that they have to frequently resort to the comic book logic of "if the super villain doesn't break out of prison then there wouldn't be a story".

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

The Age of Rachni was ended, The Age of Krogan was begun! Then Salarians, Asari, Turians and now humans

[Dean_the_Young]

bleetman wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

"LOL let's see what happens if we lure some soldiers to a Thresher Maw pit!"

And you know that's all they were trying to do... how?

Mostly because alternative that Cerberus just, I don't know, accidentally left an Alliance distress beacon right outside a Thresher nest and waited until the response team was attacked so they could snatch up any survives for a few merry years of torturous experimentation doesn't really hold much water.

But... that isn't the only alternative. There could be many alternatives to 'let's see what happens for the lols' besides 'we did it for the lols... accidentally.'

If they were trying to accomplish more than what they did - which I can only assume was nothing - that neither surprises me nor excuses it.

Are you simply incapable of considering the existence of things you do not know, or are you simply uninterested in imagining any context that doesn't suit your bias?

[KenKenpachi]

Blasto the jelly wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

 They are intelligent. End of.

I agree, but c'mon "end of" i'm waiting for the " Rachni should be sold in pet shops" and " that bug stole my wife " comments. 

"
THE RACHNI ARE TAKING OUR JOBS!

[Arcadian Legend]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

As far as the Rahni go, they developed their own ships for fast long distance space travel, when we're even yet to do that. Rachni Wars couldn't have happened if the entire race was rooted to their homeworld. They are intelligent. End of.

We know the Queens are intelligent and construct ships.

The experiments were using drones.

Here comes the point of the arguement where neither of us can really continue without ranting. The non-queen Rachni that we've seen so far were in a state of frenzy, tortured after months of experiments or stragglers on uncharted worlds, pretty much the equivalent of leaderless clans/tribes.

Want to move onto another topic of discussion regarding Cerberus?

[darkangelvxvx]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

As far as the Rahni go, they developed their own ships for fast long distance space travel, when we're even yet to do that. Rachni Wars couldn't have happened if the entire race was rooted to their homeworld. They are intelligent. End of.

We know the Queens are intelligent and construct ships.

The experiments were using drones.

No, no they weren't.  THey were testing on the queen also.  Hence why she was suspended over the vat of acid and plugged into a machine when you find her.

Modifié par darkangelvxvx, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:26 .

[Kekkis]

C9316 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

C9316 wrote...

I'm sorry, but there are just some things you don't do.

And who decides what you do and don't do, especially when faced with war?

Most likely common sense...

But common sense is not awesome or cool. Secret organization with divine destiny to rule the galaxy is much cooler, than boring normal armies. And their research is much more awesome than boring normal way. We all know, that Freemasons invented nukes and it did not take economical and industrial resources of most powerful nation of that time to do it.

[Dave of Canada]

darkangelvxvx wrote...

No, no they weren't.  THey were testing on the queen also.  Hence why she was suspended over the vat of acid and plugged into a machine when you find her.

That wasn't Cerberus, that was Saren and the team he hired. Cerberus smuggled drones away from the lab in the hopes of using them as shock troopers.

[Bad King]

darkangelvxvx wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

As far as the Rahni go, they developed their own ships for fast long distance space travel, when we're even yet to do that. Rachni Wars couldn't have happened if the entire race was rooted to their homeworld. They are intelligent. End of.

We know the Queens are intelligent and construct ships.

The experiments were using drones.

No, no they weren't.  THey were testing on the queen also.  Hence why she was suspended over the vat of acid and plugged into a machine when you find her.

That was Binary Helix.

[Someone With Mass]

What the rest of the galaxy needs is DNA-chained technology similar to the one used in District 9 so that Cerberus can't use it and actually work for their advancements.

[Dave of Canada]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Want to move onto another topic of discussion regarding Cerberus?

It'll eventually move to Collector Base and we've already got a few dozen threads on that, I'm fine with Rachni.

[Dave of Canada]

Someone With Mass wrote...

What the rest of the galaxy needs is DNA-chained technology similar to the one used in District 9 so that Cerberus can't use it and actually work for their advancements.

That's totally logical when all tech comes from the same source.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:31 .

[MisterJB]

Dave of Canada wrote...
We know the Queens are intelligent and construct ships.

The experiments were using drones.

Those drones were smart enough to escape, acess freighters and set them to random destinations. Their sentience is most likely due to having been grown close to the Queen unlike those drones encoutered on Noveria.

darkangelvxvx wrote...
No, no they weren't.  THey were testing on the queen also.  Hence why she was suspended over the vat of acid and plugged into a machine when you find her.

That was Binary Helix, not Cerberus.

[silver_sparrow]

KenKenpachi wrote...

Blasto the jelly wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

 They are intelligent. End of.

I agree, but c'mon "end of" i'm waiting for the " Rachni should be sold in pet shops" and " that bug stole my wife " comments. 

"
THE RACHNI ARE TAKING OUR JOBS!

Goddamn them ruining the galactic ecomomy. Death to them all!

[jcolt]

what cereburus needs is to not be the mass effect version of the ****s and go more like just bein there to ensure humans arent screwed over on the other hand i wouldnt be above wipin the floor with the species that tries

[Arcadian Legend]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Want to move onto another topic of discussion regarding Cerberus?

It'll eventually move to Collector Base and we've already got a few dozen threads on that, I'm fine with Rachni.

Huh, there really isn't much to talk about regarding Cerberus is there when it comes down to it. >.>

I got something. Do you think many Cerb employees defected and left (other than the SR-2 crew) after realising about TiM's full on indoctrination? Or do you think they themselves are unaware oh how much he is indoctrinated?

[Dave of Canada]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

I got something. Do you think many Cerb employees defected and left (other than the SR-2 crew) after realising about TiM's full on indoctrination? Or do you think they themselves are unaware oh how much he is indoctrinated?

Considering *SPOILER*, I assume they've left when they had the chance. Otherwise, they've been *SPOILER* and now *SPOILER* for the *SPOILER* without much choice.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:37 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Want to move onto another topic of discussion regarding Cerberus?

It'll eventually move to Collector Base and we've already got a few dozen threads on that, I'm fine with Rachni.

How about the sort of practical, morally dubious projects and policies that could both justify a reputation as a 'pro-human group' and yet still fill us with terror?

Like raising alien babies who think of themselves as humans and foreign skins, in order to infiltrait the other races with agents who can't be identified by race?

Or conspiring, bribing, and manipulating Batarian pirates to target other species who have competing colonization cliams with Human colonies?

Or what if the secret ingredient to medigel turned out to be synthesized Thresher Maw acid?

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 21 décembre 2011 - 07:39 .

[ObserverStatus]

Blasto the jelly wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

 They are intelligent. End of.

I agree, but c'mon "end of" i'm waiting for the " Rachni should be sold in pet shops" and " that bug stole my wife " comments. 

Fine, they should be breaded in coconut batter, deep fried, and served with sweet and sour sauce. Are you happy?

[jcolt]

wow didnt know that fascist group of germans from ww2 would be censored

[AlexXIV]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

I got something. Do you think many Cerb employees defected and left (other than the SR-2 crew) after realising about TiM's full on indoctrination? Or do you think they themselves are unaware oh how much he is indoctrinated?

Considering *SPOILER*, I assume they've left when they had the chance. Otherwise, they've been *SPOILER* and now *SPOILER* for the *SPOILER* without much choice.

*SPOILER*

[C9316]

To be honest I'd like to discuss Cerberus' actions in Acension and Retribution. That would be interesting...

[AlexXIV]

jcolt wrote...

wow didnt know that fascist group of germans from ww2 would be censored

because people also use it to insult each other. For example 'Grammar ****!'