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[Stardusk78]

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

[Sialater]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Uh... as a fan of both with characters who romanced both... that's YOUR opinion.  There's no "objective" standard involved here, just your opinion.

[Wrathra]

Stardusk78 wrote...


Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Women DO like different things, you know.  We don't all necessarily like the same body type.

Modifié par Wrathra, 22 décembre 2011 - 03:59 .

[Stardusk78]

Sialater wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Uh... as a fan of both with characters who romanced both... that's YOUR opinion.  There's no "objective" standard involved here, just your opinion.

No, it's not my opinion. Jacob has a better physical buid than Kaidan, that is just a fact, opinion would be if he probably has a bigger schlong as well, but body wise Jacob is superior.

[JeffZero]

Superior to women (and gay dudes and so on) who like their men more toned. Inferior to those with differing tastes, of which there are just as many as there are among us straight guys, y'know.

[Sialater]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Uh... as a fan of both with characters who romanced both... that's YOUR opinion.  There's no "objective" standard involved here, just your opinion.

No, it's not my opinion. Jacob has a better physical buid than Kaidan, that is just a fact, opinion would be if he probably has a bigger schlong as well, but body wise Jacob is superior.

Uh, yeah... whatever helps you sleep at night.

[JeffZero]

Hell, personal example. I'm not as toned as I used to be. It bums me out and I'm working on it but my girlfriend tells me she genuinely prefers me this way, that my abs weren't 'her thing' when they were chiseled.

Modifié par JeffZero, 22 décembre 2011 - 04:03 .

[Jenova65]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Erm.... he is NOT........ The human form can NEVER be objective... It is definitely a subjective issue. That is like saying all women only like muscle... I like muscles just fine, but I am not averse to love handles either.. attraction is not based on muscle mass, that's just.................... silly..............
Women (like men) have a variety of opinions on what body type is sexy... I like tall men better than small.. but it doesn't mean that a man HAS to be tall for me to appreciate the way he looks, you are thinking about this like a man and you cannot afford to do that when trying to decipher what women find attractive.. 
So there *you* go 

[DonutsDealer]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Uh... as a fan of both with characters who romanced both... that's YOUR opinion.  There's no "objective" standard involved here, just your opinion.

No, it's not my opinion. Jacob has a better physical buid than Kaidan, that is just a fact, opinion would be if he probably has a bigger schlong as well, but body wise Jacob is superior.

Not everyone has the same definition of "best physical build". Some people might prefer Jacob and others would prefer Kaidan. Different tastes, you know.

[Stardusk78]

Sialater wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Uh... as a fan of both with characters who romanced both... that's YOUR opinion.  There's no "objective" standard involved here, just your opinion.

No, it's not my opinion. Jacob has a better physical buid than Kaidan, that is just a fact, opinion would be if he probably has a bigger schlong as well, but body wise Jacob is superior.

Uh, yeah... whatever helps you sleep at night.

I guess you don't like muscular men, Jacob is muscular, Kaidan is not.

[Stardusk78]

JeffZero wrote...

Superior to women (and gay dudes and so on) who like their men more toned. Inferior to those with differing tastes, of which there are just as many as there are among us straight guys, y'know.

There are objective beauty parameters for both females and males as this has been extensively researched in evolutionary biology and psychology.

For men, tall, broad shoulders, muscular (degree varies), large penis, symmetrical face

For women, large breasts (degree varies), slim, soft, blemish free skin, proper female curves indicative of fertility, symmetrical face

These are archetypes all people adhere to but due to limited accessibility both for themselves and the rarity of a perfect combination of such features, compromises are always made and within any standard there are always deviations.

[JeffZero]

I don't think you realize what they're arguing, Stardusk.

No one is denying that Jacob is more muscular. It's the rather forced implication that this makes him physically 'superior' when women have a wide assortment of tastes that's getting to everyone.

[Bekkael]

Stardusk78 wrote...

I guess you don't like muscular men, Jacob is muscular, Kaidan is not.

Taken directly from ME1. Looks awfully good to me.

[Ravensword]

Jenova65 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

My vote goes to Kaidan fangirls, some of the stuff they post is...distrurbing.

There is nothing disturbing about finding the male form sexy and enjoying looking at it.... Men have been getting away this cr*p for years.
NEWSFLASH - We like sex at least as much as you men do... :kissing:

Mmm-hmm. You're teasin' somethin'.

I NEVER tease, I always deliver :innocent:

Stand and deliver.

Or sit, or kneel... or you know....  

Go on.

As in............ do it? Or elaborate?? I'm easy either way... *so they say* 

Whatever's clever.

[shepskisaac]

My vote goes to Stardusk78. He makes one pressed thread about VS after another:

Who are more obessive, Ashely fanboys or Kaidan fangirls?
Of all the reason to hate on Ashley, WHY her poetry?
Wouldn't Garrus make the better Spectre hands down compared to the VS?
It would be weird if Shepard got back together with the VS....period.
So, wil Ashely be a racist in ME3?

[Sialater]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

I could actually better understand a female obession with Jacob because he is much better built and most certainly has a very large thing down there.

You have clearly not seen as much Kaidan art as you think you have  
And it isn't how the little soldiers sits, you know, it's how he stands to attention........

Jacob is objectively better built than Kaidan AND the women here were going on abotu enjoying the male form, well, there you go, if were only about that, Jacob would have to win.

Uh... as a fan of both with characters who romanced both... that's YOUR opinion.  There's no "objective" standard involved here, just your opinion.

No, it's not my opinion. Jacob has a better physical buid than Kaidan, that is just a fact, opinion would be if he probably has a bigger schlong as well, but body wise Jacob is superior.

Uh, yeah... whatever helps you sleep at night.

I guess you don't like muscular men, Jacob is muscular, Kaidan is not.

Did you miss the part where I said I liked both? 

[JeffZero]

Stardusk78 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Superior to women (and gay dudes and so on) who like their men more toned. Inferior to those with differing tastes, of which there are just as many as there are among us straight guys, y'know.

There are objective beauty parameters for both females and males as this has been extensively researched in evolutionary biology and psychology.

For men, tall, broad shoulders, muscular (degree varies), large penis, symmetrical face

For women, large breasts (degree varies), slim, soft, blemish free skin, proper female curves indicative of fertility, symmetrical face

These are archetypes all people adhere to but due to limited accessibility both for themselves and the rarity of a perfect combination of such features, compromises are always made and within any standard there are always deviations.

That's a very nice psychological observation rife with plenty of normalities but I could start listing dozens upon dozens of people I've met who prefer other physical elements of either gender over the current societal norm.

Extensive research is never going to arrive at all-inclusive results and any halfway-decent researcher will note that. A hundred years ago it was considered desirable for a woman to be much more plump than 'we' hope for now. And let us not get started on the normal-for-the-era tastes of one Alexander the Great. 

Modifié par JeffZero, 22 décembre 2011 - 04:16 .

[CroGamer002]

Pro-Cerberus fanboys.

[Stardusk78]

IsaacShep wrote...

My vote goes to Stardusk78. He makes one pressed thread about VS after another:

Who are more obessive, Ashely fanboys or Kaidan fangirls?
Of all the reason to hate on Ashley, WHY her poetry?
Wouldn't Garrus make the better Spectre hands down compared to the VS?
It would be weird if Shepard got back together with the VS....period.
So, wil Ashely be a racist in ME3?

I am just bored at work, nothing to do at the moment.

But I can't win a vote since I am neither an Ashley or Kaidan fan, :innocent:

[Sylvanpyxie]

Who are more obessive, Ashely fanboys or Kaidan fangirls?

Why, the Kaidan Fanboys of course.

I do love the Kaidan Fanboys.

[Bekkael]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

Who are more obessive, Ashely fanboys or Kaidan fangirls?

Why, the Kaidan Fanboys of course.

I do love the Kaidan Fanboys.

So do I.

[Stardusk78]

JeffZero wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Superior to women (and gay dudes and so on) who like their men more toned. Inferior to those with differing tastes, of which there are just as many as there are among us straight guys, y'know.

There are objective beauty parameters for both females and males as this has been extensively researched in evolutionary biology and psychology.

For men, tall, broad shoulders, muscular (degree varies), large penis, symmetrical face

For women, large breasts (degree varies), slim, soft, blemish free skin, proper female curves indicative of fertility, symmetrical face

These are archetypes all people adhere to but due to limited accessibility both for themselves and the rarity of a perfect combination of such features, compromises are always made and within any standard there are always deviations.

That's a very nice psychological observation rife with plenty of normalities but I could start listing dozens upon dozens of people I've met who prefer other physical elements of either gender over the current societal norm.

Extensive research is never going to arrive at all-inclusive results and any halfway-decent researcher will note that. A hundred years ago it was considered desirable for a woman to me much more plump than 'we' hope for now. And let us not get started on the normal-for-the-era tastes of one Alexander the Great. 

I said there would be deviations and differences but the trends I listed ARE the biologicla trends which drive our species, mitigated by societal influences of course. Beyond that, there are wild deviations that are hard to account for, such as the female modelling industry, as most straight men find the anorexic look less than desireable.

But related to this is statistical evidence bearing out the fact that taller people (particularly males) earn 10-15% more than their shorter counterparts. Societal influence cannot reengineer millions of years of evolutionary imperatives.

[Jenova65]

Stardusk78 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Superior to women (and gay dudes and so on) who like their men more toned. Inferior to those with differing tastes, of which there are just as many as there are among us straight guys, y'know.

There are objective beauty parameters for both females and males as this has been extensively researched in evolutionary biology and psychology.

For men, tall, broad shoulders, muscular (degree varies), large penis, symmetrical face

For women, large breasts (degree varies), slim, soft, blemish free skin, proper female curves indicative of fertility, symmetrical face

These are archetypes all people adhere to but due to limited accessibility both for themselves and the rarity of a perfect combination of such features, compromises are always made and within any standard there are always deviations.

OK........... NO. Just no......... Please, you are being silly now... 
There are NO *objective* parameters of beauty. Are you seriously suggesting that beauty has been catagorically defined?? You are the victim of reading too many magazines if you think that...
You can research it until hell freezes over, but I can clear that up for you right now... Beauty, wait for it... is in the eye of the beholder, in the same way that you may hear Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata and think it is rubbish and I could listen to it and cry at what I hear as its beauty  The same goes for people, I love hazel eyes, but I also love grey eyes. I like dark haired men, but I also like blonds. Muscles are OK, I don't mind thin men either, I also think there is nothing nicer than having a man who is a big bear.. they are the warm and comfy ones who will keep you satisfied... 
I know there are millions of people who would disagree, but guess what, there are millions who would agree also... 
Are you a Liara fan?? She's f*cking blue, with tentacles you know.... *objectively* she fails... big time... but yet.. oh wait, she doesn't. Because beauty is subjective that fact is the only objective thing here. 
I love Liara btw, to clarify  I use her merely to point out the subjectiveness of beauty.

[Jenova65]

Ravensword wrote...
Whatever's clever.

Erm neither.... I didn't realise we trying to be smart 

[C9316]

The answer is obviously Talimancers, last time I checked I don't remember anyone else trying to figure out what their character's sweat tasted like...