Ah. And of course such a system would prevent forbidden research because the mages conducting such experiments are always truthful and will never try to hide anything - like it happened countless times in the Circles, right?
I never said forbidden research wouldn't happen. I said research would be allowed so long as it's authorized. Laws cannot be made with the knowledge of what every single person will and won't do. They can only be made by focusing on the issue at hand and handling them in the best way possible -- and for the mages and Templars, that satisfies both parties.
My law is that a Mage would have to check in daily with the Templars -- and as an illustrative example, I merely said it would be simple things like "How are you?". Realistically, that wouldn't be all that was said -- and if he/she is performing a sanctioned experiment/doing research, then the Templars would supervise.
If forbidden research happens -- and it would -- then the Templars would have to do their job. But I can't create a law that knows what everyone will do. That's imposible. Also, I think that if forbidden research is happening, it'll be pretty apparent. Missing people, weird noises in the night, blood in places, people acting strangely, etc.
It's not like it's going to be that easy to hide something like that. If it's using Chantry authorized magic, they have nothing to fear about asking for it to be authorized. If it's using blood magic, it's going to be incredibly obvious that it's going on because of what blood magic needs to work. Blood.
If the Templars do their jobs this won't be an issue. Templars can sense disturbances in the Veil. But the only Templars that do their jobs are the ones that aren't zealots. And those are few and far between.
Sorry, that just sounds too naive to be feasible. A system in complete reliance on a mage's voluntary disclosure of projects cannot work. Not to mention that even Harrowed mages can still get possessed if they let their guard down for a moment - now, would you want something like that to happen within the confines of a Circle Tower, or in a densely populated city? Think carefully.
If the Templars do their job, then Abominations can be handled.
Harrowed mages -- and I find the Harrowing to be a poor attempt at training mages in its current form -- are able to resist demonic possession. How many times have we heard of a Harrowed mage falling to possession when demons weren't summoned by blood magic or the Veil was so incredibly thin demons could easily cross over and possess someone by force?
None that I can think of.
The Templars wouldn't be the only force relegated to dealing with Abominations in my system. The Templars would work hand in hand with the City Guard and the Mages. Specifically the Mages' Collective, who are a self-policing force of mages that exist to improve relations between the populus and the Mages.
And they've done a good job of it, based on the lore snippet from the Collective Arming Cowl. And they've also reported on the activities of maleficarum. They've even noticed when some of their own have gone missing.
My system wouldn't solely rely on the Mages being truthful. That would only be part of it. The part about the Mages wanting their freedom. As I said numerous pages ago, I've only been posting small segments of my reformation of the system these days and I haven't posted a thought-out post for many months now.
The Mages would have to check in with the Templars. If they're performing a sanctioned experiment or research, the Templars would be nearby. If they're performing something illegal -- which would more then likely be dealing with blood magic -- it would be pretty obvious. For blood magic to work it requires blood. Either the blood of the mage or the blood of someone else.
Which means either missing people or scars on the Mage's body. Both would be very apparent.
So, I could add that the Mage would also have to undergo maybe a physical exam in front of Mages and Templars. Any scars on the body that were judged to be fairly recent would mean that an investigation could be enacted into the Mage's house and anywhere he's gone.
Not sure how well other posters may find that one. I'm not at my mental best here admittedly, as my mind is exhausted. So long as it was kept strictly professional though and perhaps done by people of the same gender as the Mage being examined -- meaning no guys looking at naked mage girls -- I think it'd be fine.
Also, psychological tests should be done routinely. We don't need people like Tarohne running amok.
Mages were free for a few centuries prior to the Circle's formation -- but after the Templars formed -- and the world didn't fall to Abominations. They were living in cities and villages, even if what magic they could use was heavily restricted.
The Tevinter Imperium hasn't fallen because of Abominations, and they have Mages living in all of their cities. Granted, they're pricks. But they must be doing something right if Abominations don't plague the lands.
EDIT: Now I haven't read Asunder, but from what the research into Tranquility has led me to believe, it seems like it involved blood magic. Demons roaming the halls of the place Pharamond was at, possessing mages and whoever else.
The DA wiki doesn't elaborate on how he was doing his research, so correct me if I'm wrong anyone. But if it did use blood magic, then that means that blood magic isn't deemed inherently evil by the Divine. Which means she might be willing to authorize magic that uses blood magic, so long as it doesn't involve sacrificing anyone.
And even if it did, someone should mention to her that Darkspawn can be used as blood magic fodder like the Baroness was able to do.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong anyone on the intricacies of the Tranquility research anyone.
Of course they are - just like lyrium is necessary to awaken their talents in the first place. Neither fact is featured in game mechanics because the idea was scrapped, yet we know of it because it is mentioned in the background.
And it's contradicted by the person who says he's never ingested lyrium but can still perform the abilities that require lyrium to work.
I cannot remember this line. Also, if this were true, it wouldn't be a rumour but a cold, hard fact presented as such without a single sliver of doubt, wouldn't it
He says it. Other people can vouch that he says it. He says that he's never taken his vows, ingested lyrium, and that only those Templars that had taken their vows could ingest lyrium.
Meaning he should be incapable of performing Templar abilities. Meaning Duncan wouldn't have recruited him for his Templar abilities if he couldn't perform them in the first place.
As quoted, this is not what the unbiased flavor texts of the specialization say in the games, though.
How is Alistair biased for speaking the truth about how he's never ingested lyrium nor taken his vows, which means that by how the Chantry operates its Templars he shouldn't be able to perform them at all?
That's not biased.
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