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#101
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I actually forgot about Mordin and Kasumi -_-

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

I actually forgot about Mordin and Kasumi -_-


Mordin actually has it a little worse than Tali because he's at the head of the death priority list for that part.  For a while after the game first came out, some people actually though it was impossible for him to survive that part.

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More fuel for the OP Fire:

http://www.masseffec...er-anyone-else/

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

More fuel for the OP Fire:

http://www.masseffec...er-anyone-else/


I like how they only consider two possibilities:

a. It's Garrus
b. It's Garrus' replacement.

Yeah, or maybe it's just a new turian character who shows up in that scene and has nothing to do with who is or is not in your squad.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

More fuel for the OP Fire:

http://www.masseffec...er-anyone-else/


I like how they only consider two possibilities:

a. It's Garrus
b. It's Garrus' replacement.

Yeah, or maybe it's just a new turian character who shows up in that scene and has nothing to do with who is or is not in your squad.


Yeah, more fuel for the fire.  Who knows.

I'll miss Garrus, but he won't be in my canon for ME3 either way.

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

More fuel for the OP Fire:

http://www.masseffec...er-anyone-else/


I like how they only consider two possibilities:

a. It's Garrus
b. It's Garrus' replacement.

Yeah, or maybe it's just a new turian character who shows up in that scene and has nothing to do with who is or is not in your squad.


Yeah, more fuel for the fire.  Who knows.

I'll miss Garrus, but he won't be in my canon for ME3 either way.


:blink: I could never do that. There is no mass effect for me without Garrus Vakarian

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didymos1120 wrote...
Mordin actually has it a little worse than Tali because he's at the head of the death priority list for that part.  For a while after the game first came out, some people actually though it was impossible for him to survive that part.


Which is a little funny, because he has never died on my playthroughs.

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IsaacShep wrote...

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But those three characters are also hugely popular. Making your complaint boil down to "I do not like Tali and Garrus"

...Miranda is a key figure in the organization that during ME2 was doing the most to stop the Reapers...

For the record, Miranda said to TIM,"Consider this my reignation," just before she cut the transmission and Shepard set the charge in the Reaper base. Obviously, that didn't all happen for everyone, but it happened for me, so yeah.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
Mordin actually has it a little worse than Tali because he's at the head of the death priority list for that part.  For a while after the game first came out, some people actually though it was impossible for him to survive that part.


Which is a little funny, because he has never died on my playthroughs.


Me neither.  I was a bit baffled by how some people couldn't seem to keep him alive.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
Mordin actually has it a little worse than Tali because he's at the head of the death priority list for that part.  For a while after the game first came out, some people actually though it was impossible for him to survive that part.


Which is a little funny, because he has never died on my playthroughs.


Me neither.  I was a bit baffled by how some people couldn't seem to keep him alive.

I always sent him to take the survivors back to the Normandy. Figured an armed medical scientist would make an ideal escort for them. Duh. =/

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The first time I played, I thought the crew would be facing collectors on their way back - so I sent grunt. Yeah. The guy who is at the top of the charts. I thought "Oh yeah, you guys are totally going to be safe!" Afterwards..I learn ANYone can do the damn job. Kind of stupid really..

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lightsnow13 wrote...

The first time I played, I thought the crew would be facing collectors on their way back - so I sent grunt. Yeah. The guy who is at the top of the charts. I thought "Oh yeah, you guys are totally going to be safe!" Afterwards..I learn ANYone can do the damn job. Kind of stupid really..

I took it as a free pass to save a squadmate. =/

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darthnick427 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

More fuel for the OP Fire:

http://www.masseffec...er-anyone-else/


I like how they only consider two possibilities:

a. It's Garrus
b. It's Garrus' replacement.

Yeah, or maybe it's just a new turian character who shows up in that scene and has nothing to do with who is or is not in your squad.


Yeah, more fuel for the fire.  Who knows.

I'll miss Garrus, but he won't be in my canon for ME3 either way.


:blink: I could never do that. There is no mass effect for me without Garrus Vakarian


I am pretty sure that Garrus had a sister not a brother as far as I know from reading the Shadow Broker files.  I would rather they just not put a replacement as I do have a Shepard with a dead Garrus and I would like to see that.

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I like how people carve for consequences for dead squadmates, and when they get them, they want the obvious replacements instead.

Funny how that works.

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ME3 team....what is known.

1) Virmire Survivor = awesome(Ash at least)
2) New Dude...Vega or whatever he's called = meh, I hope his priorities are straight or he gets spaced
3) Tali = absolutely amazing, just flawless companion choice.
4) Garrus = Cool dude unless you happen to have a female shep that romances him, otherwise just great.
5) Liara = Great character whether romanced or not.

Then the DLC character and another team member I can pretty much guarantee will never be announced....they are enormous spoilers and so awesome that most fans' minds would be blown...BioWare can't sell games to dead people.

Aside from that in the leaked script Legion plays such a major role in the game that it would take nothing but a small tweak to take him from a temporary to permanent squad member not to mention that in terms of awesomeness he's only second to Tali so if there are 8 team members instead of just 7 my bets are that Legion in going to be it....although the leaked scripts do show he is completely irreplaceable if you somehow got him killed in ME2 and were too lazy to do another playthrough.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 24 décembre 2011 - 09:42 .


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Darth_Trethon wrote...

ME3 team....what is known.

1) Virmire Survivor = awesome(Ash at least)
2) New Dude...Vega or whatever he's called = meh, I hope his priorities are straight or he gets spaced
3) Tali = absolutely amazing, just flawless companion choice.
4) Garrus = Cool dude unless you happen to have a female shep that romances him, otherwise just great.
5) Liara = Great character whether romanced or not.

Then the DLC character and another team member I can pretty much guarantee will never be announced....they are enormous spoilers and so awesome that most fans' minds would be blown...BioWare can't sell games to dead people.

Aside from that in the leaked script Legion plays such a major role in the game that it would take nothing but a small tweak to take him from a temporary to permanent squad member not to mention that in terms of awesomeness he's only second to Tali so if there are 8 team members instead of just 7 my bets are that Legion in going to be it....although the leaked scripts do show he is completely irreplaceable if you somehow got him killed in ME2 and were too lazy to do another playthrough.


What's wrong with Garruses romance? it's done pretty well in ME3, what i read from the leaked script.

There is no proof that the 7th character is the dlc guy. Could be the eight one. The 7th character is pretty intergrated in the script. 

Modifié par armass, 24 décembre 2011 - 09:50 .


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armass wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

ME3 team....what is known.

1) Virmire Survivor = awesome(Ash at least)
2) New Dude...Vega or whatever he's called = meh, I hope his priorities are straight or he gets spaced
3) Tali = absolutely amazing, just flawless companion choice.
4) Garrus = Cool dude unless you happen to have a female shep that romances him, otherwise just great.
5) Liara = Great character whether romanced or not.

Then the DLC character and another team member I can pretty much guarantee will never be announced....they are enormous spoilers and so awesome that most fans' minds would be blown...BioWare can't sell games to dead people.

Aside from that in the leaked script Legion plays such a major role in the game that it would take nothing but a small tweak to take him from a temporary to permanent squad member not to mention that in terms of awesomeness he's only second to Tali so if there are 8 team members instead of just 7 my bets are that Legion in going to be it....although the leaked scripts do show he is completely irreplaceable if you somehow got him killed in ME2 and were too lazy to do another playthrough.


What's wrong with Garruses romance? it's done pretty well in ME3, what i read from the leaked script.

There is no proof that the 7th character is the dlc guy. Could be the eight one. The 7th character is pretty intergrated in the script. 


I thought the awkward kind of lameness he had in the ME2 romance carried a bit too well....I only had one female shep character in all my playthoughs and I thought his romance was just horribly done. BioWare does seem to struggle to make good romanceable characters for the female players....Jacob proved this beyond doubt and Kaidan wasn't too poppular either.

As for the DLC character being 7th...I guess you could be right but that would mean there were no early scripts for him and I seriously hope it doesn't end up being a filler without much dialogue like Zaeed and Kasumi.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 24 décembre 2011 - 10:01 .


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Darth_Trethon wrote...

ME3 team....what is known.

1) Virmire Survivor = awesome(Ash at least)
2) New Dude...Vega or whatever he's called = meh, I hope his priorities are straight or he gets spaced
3) Tali = absolutely amazing, just flawless companion choice.
4) Garrus = Cool dude unless you happen to have a female shep that romances him, otherwise just great.
5) Liara = Great character whether romanced or not.


I dont want to start anything but I cant see Tali as a combatant during a galactic war. On the normandy, sure where she could be helpng the crew upgrading the ship and what have you but having her in a frontline battle seems dumb, quarians are to fragile. I think shes a decent enough character but I think Grunt or Samara should take her spot for combat missions.

I dont even want to talk about the "spoiler squadmates" meh and really?, come to mind.

All in all I think they should have struck a balance 3 me1 ex.( VS, Garrus, and Liara) and 3 me2 ex.(Miranda, Grunt, and Samara) for the "away" missions and allowed say Tali to be the ship upgrade specialist and Mordin to be the R&D specialist as non combatants with conversations and maybe a side mission involving each of them. 

Im just saying as someone who liked the me2 squad more, I'm feeling kinda gipped at the moment. 

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And Tali and Garrus won't be replaced, sorry. You get the short end of the stick when you get someone killed, it's how it works :P

And it just happens to be Tali & Garrus, and only them. Out of 13 possible ME2 squadmates. It's basically "you may kill everyone else, but if you dare to kill Tali & Garrus, you will have smaller squad as the punishement haha!". Yeahhh.


Tali and Garrus are the only ME2 party members that will return to your ME3 party. All the other ME2 party members have temporary squad roles, but just like Tali and Garrus, they'll not be replaced when they died in ME2 (except for Grunt as far as I saw).

So no-one who died in ME2 gets replaced, which means 2 fewer squad-members when Tali and Garrus died and fewer cameos or temp-squad-members when the rest died.

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Spanky Magoo wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

ME3 team....what is known.

1) Virmire Survivor = awesome(Ash at least)
2) New Dude...Vega or whatever he's called = meh, I hope his priorities are straight or he gets spaced
3) Tali = absolutely amazing, just flawless companion choice.
4) Garrus = Cool dude unless you happen to have a female shep that romances him, otherwise just great.
5) Liara = Great character whether romanced or not.


I dont want to start anything but I cant see Tali as a combatant during a galactic war. On the normandy, sure where she could be helpng the crew upgrading the ship and what have you but having her in a frontline battle seems dumb, quarians are to fragile. I think shes a decent enough character but I think Grunt or Samara should take her spot for combat missions.

I dont even want to talk about the "spoiler squadmates" meh and really?, come to mind.

All in all I think they should have struck a balance 3 me1 ex.( VS, Garrus, and Liara) and 3 me2 ex.(Miranda, Grunt, and Samara) for the "away" missions and allowed say Tali to be the ship upgrade specialist and Mordin to be the R&D specialist as non combatants with conversations and maybe a side mission involving each of them. 

Im just saying as someone who liked the me2 squad more, I'm feeling kinda gipped at the moment. 


lol who isn't weak and fragile when compared to a reaper.....it's not like any one on the team could withstand one single blow from a reaper. But Tali's genius can very well come in handy when the need to make on the fly decissions on how to fight and attack or even evade the reapers arrises on the ground. She stood her ground well enough in ME1 and ME2 so I'd say she's deffinitely tougher than you give her credit for.

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Don't know about fragility, but her drone was a godsend before I got Legion.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

ME3 team....what is known.

1) Virmire Survivor = awesome(Ash at least)
2) New Dude...Vega or whatever he's called = meh, I hope his priorities are straight or he gets spaced
3) Tali = absolutely amazing, just flawless companion choice.
4) Garrus = Cool dude unless you happen to have a female shep that romances him, otherwise just great.
5) Liara = Great character whether romanced or not.

Then the DLC character and another team member I can pretty much guarantee will never be announced....they are enormous spoilers and so awesome that most fans' minds would be blown...BioWare can't sell games to dead people.

Aside from that in the leaked script Legion plays such a major role in the game that it would take nothing but a small tweak to take him from a temporary to permanent squad member not to mention that in terms of awesomeness he's only second to Tali so if there are 8 team members instead of just 7 my bets are that Legion in going to be it....although the leaked scripts do show he is completely irreplaceable if you somehow got him killed in ME2 and were too lazy to do another playthrough.


I could live without 3 and 5.
Actually,. I prefer to never see them again in ME3. Too bad I can't take Liara to the suicide mission.

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But they also happen to be very important, much more than Tali & Garrus. Legion knows & understands the Reapers more than anyone else. Miranda is a key figure in the organization that during ME2 was doing the most to stop the Reapers AND she's personally responsible for bringing Shep back to life, she knows the best Shep's current condition. Mordin is one of the central figures of the Turian/Salarian/Krogan conflict and he's a science expert which already proved extremly useful in uncovering Collector secrets and thus protecting Shep & the squad from Reaper forces. Not a coincidence you're strongly advised to recruit him first in ME2.


Right, so in case Shepard gets spaced in ME3, she can patch him up muc in the sae way as in the Lazarus prioject in ME2. Whatever plot relevance she would've had in ME3 was severed when she told TIM she was resigning. Oh, well.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

ME3 team....what is known.

1) Virmire Survivor = awesome(Ash at least)
2) New Dude...Vega or whatever he's called = meh, I hope his priorities are straight or he gets spaced
3) Tali = absolutely amazing, just flawless companion choice.
4) Garrus = Cool dude unless you happen to have a female shep that romances him, otherwise just great.
5) Liara = Great character whether romanced or not.

Then the DLC character and another team member I can pretty much guarantee will never be announced....they are enormous spoilers and so awesome that most fans' minds would be blown...BioWare can't sell games to dead people.

Aside from that in the leaked script Legion plays such a major role in the game that it would take nothing but a small tweak to take him from a temporary to permanent squad member not to mention that in terms of awesomeness he's only second to Tali so if there are 8 team members instead of just 7 my bets are that Legion in going to be it....although the leaked scripts do show he is completely irreplaceable if you somehow got him killed in ME2 and were too lazy to do another playthrough.


Enjoy your pseudo incestuous relationship with Tali. She is after all the functional equivalent to a little sister, completele with whining and complaining.

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I could live without 3 and 5.
Actually,. I prefer to never see them again in ME3. Too bad I can't take Liara to the suicide mission.

You killed Tali? Ooooohhhh that's going to to bite you bad in ME3.....she plays a huge role. Frankly I wish I could see your face when you relize what her death means in the overall picture....^_^