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[Ghost_x16]

 In my first playthrough I've managed to hit about 15k on Orsino with my 2h (first playthrough = bad character).
In my second playthrough I played as a 1h warrior and my crits would often reach 20-30k on Liuetants and 15k on Corypheus... and I don't know if it was bugged or what but in the Legacy dlc I've hit twice a 100k crit on Genlok&Hurlok Alpha...
Just wondering if I'm doing good or terrible .

As to Varric, can anybody tell me what's the best DPS build for hm? I always go for 40 CUN first, then I put some in CON up to 20-25 and rest in DEX, sadly I always am disappointed with his damage output from skills, even when using Archer's Lance on BRITTLE targets. During Act 3 Bianka manages to do some real damage, but only when auto attacking

[mrs_anomaly]

Hmm. I don't even know how you keep track of such stats- I'm a more intuitive player but I'm curious about beefing Varric's DPS also. So bumping this sorta.
Typically when I bring him I have to protect him a lot. (I play on normal difficulty and dip into hard whenever I can)
I like to bring Varric because he's fab and also he can crack into chests (because I always manage to have to go about w/out Isabela :\\ and I hate that but I'm only on my first play throughs and have made critical mistakes that prevent me from keeping her in my party).

[mr_afk]

Haven't touched/thought about DA2 in a while, but if I remember right:

To maximise Varric's dps (approximately/without a spreadsheet) just pump dex until he has ~100% critical chance then move to cunning. It changes a little bit depending on what equipment you have, but in general, by the time he has 100% critical chance his base damage will be high enough that it's beneficial to increase critical damage. Alternatively you could just dump his stats into excel and create a list of all the possible dex/cun distributions for your level (and choose the one with the highest critical damage (base damage*critical damage%), assuming he has close to 100% critical chance).

Basically for rogues, dex = 0.5 base dmg and 1% critical chance
cun = 1% critical damage
for example, at a base damage 100 with 100% critical chance, a point into cunning will increase overall damage by 1 while a point into dex will only increase it by 0.5
At critical damage% over 100% it can start to become more complicated as increasing base damage by 0.5 can result in a larger increase than another point into critical damage%.
But unless you're going for speed runs etc such min-maxing really isn't necessary.

If you don't have any improve lockpicking rings (puzzle ring of the black fox) and hawke isn't a rogue you might have to pump Varric's cunning to a less optimal level, but if you maintain some sort of dex/cun mixture you should be fine.
The main thing would be to not put any con/will into him as it shouldn't really be necessary with adequate threat management/prioritisation etc

Also, you can't expect massive numbers from him as most of his 'insane dps' comes from his attack speed. With haste, bianca's song, well oiled etc. he basically becomes a machine-gun. If you are a mage and have nowhere better to put the PLR, Varric can get even more attack-speed.


If you're struggling/needing to protect Varric perhaps tuning things up tactics-wise (as in the AI programming) will be useful. Basically you should set it up so your mages and Varric crowd control any elites (e.g. freezing/petrifying, pinning shot etc) which sets up CCCs which are automatically executed through tactics. This means that all the more dangerous enemies die off and there isn't as much need to protect the party from any assassins etc.

The other thing which may be useful is getting some threat management. Getting hawke(manually controlled for manual dodging)/your more durable members to pick up threat via increased damage or specific abilities and Varric to automatically use threat management (goad, armistice etc) can reduce to the need to constantly baby sit him.



Anyway, in regards to the OP - i really don't know what's going on if you're getting crits that high with a S&S. i.e. you're either doing something really good or you're playing with a different patch, difficulty or something?

because the damage cap/lower damage of warriors usually means that the maximum damage that i've ever seen anyway is around 7k? and that was with a full will berserker (highest possible base damage) off an assault CCC. Maybe at higher levels (this was only my act 2 run) you can get a little bit higher, but 20-100k for a warrior is pretty beastly. That's higher than any rogues i've seen post-patch (but not quite up to a pre-patch assassinate )

haha anyway I'll be interested in your build/equipment if you're willing to share.

Modifié par mr_afk, 29 décembre 2011 - 05:46 .