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[ninsegtari]

Mass Relays are instantaneous, but FTL between systems in a cluster is not.

I can't imagine it's too fast though. A mass relay connects Sol and Arcturus, and those stars are only 37 light years apart.

The fastest non-Reaper ship is the Normandy. So it would break down like this:
Normandy SR2 < Collector Cruiser < Reaper


Question: How many light years can be traveled in 24 hours on the Normandy?


Examples:

USS Sulaco (Aliens) - 0.74 light years per day

USS Enterprise (Star Trek) - 4.51 light years per day

UNSC Pillar of Autumn (Halo) - 2 to 3 light years per day

Covenant Ships (Halo) - 900+ light years per day

Modifié par ninsegtari, 27 décembre 2011 - 01:56 .

[JeffZero]

Faster than light.

>_>

[Gabriel S.]

JeffZero wrote...

Faster than light.

>_>

A-hi hi hi hi...

[voteDC]

The speed of light is approximately 186,282 miles per second. So Faster Than Light Drive would obviously be somewhat quicker than that.

[the almighty moo]

if the mass relays use wormholes then the entry and exit points at two locations in space would make it almost instantanious travel.

otherwise it would be facking fast.

[Nexis7]

voteDC wrote...

The speed of light is approximately 186,282 miles per second. So Faster Than Light Drive would obviously be somewhat quicker than that.

Its 186,283 miles per second

[DocDoomII]

the almighty moo wrote...

if the mass relays use wormholes then the entry and exit points at two locations in space would make it almost instantanious travel.

otherwise it would be facking fast.

you are configusing mass relays with stargates

[Chuvvy]

Pretty sure it takes them a few hours to get from planet to planet. I can't remember if I read that or if it's just what I've assigned it in my head.

[Bogsnot1]

Its faster than the maximum velocity of a sheep in a vacuum

[OdanUrr]

Like JeffZero said, FTL is "faster than light." For a more accurate response you'd need a distance and the time it takes for a given ship to cover that distance using an FTL drive. Of course, this calculation is probably more than a bit wrong given the current state of physics where no mass can travel faster than the speed of light since it would require infinite amounts of energy (no ship would be able to cover that distance in our universe at a speed faster than light, upturning our notions of time and space for our given universe... am I making sense?). That is why we have hyperspace or wormholes (yes, I love Stargate, so what?), because they offer us a way out of this conundrum. So, I'd have to conclude that your question is wrongly formulated (or I misinterpreted it).

[BaneTheSpecTRe]

You know how fast light is?

A little faster than that.

[ninsegtari]

Arcian wrote...

Conventional "business" FTL is roughly 4300 times faster than light. More advanced space vessels are obviously much faster, like the Normandy or Reapers.

That would equal 11.145 light years per day.

Modifié par ninsegtari, 27 décembre 2011 - 03:01 .

[DocDoomII]

Wait a second.
The mass effect concept consists of a mass effect field to reduce the mass of something so that it can be accelerated to some hypothetical "WTF velocity", but how exactly does that allow for FTL velocity?
Light can travel at the speed of 299,792,458 m/s because photons have no mass.
Does that mean that a mass effect engine or mass relay can drop the mass of something under the value of zero?
Is that even scientifically possible (not the mass effect theory, but matter having negative mass)?

[OdanUrr]

DocDoomII wrote...

Wait a second.
The mass effect concept consists of a mass effect field to reduce the mass of something so that it can be accelerated to some hypothetical "WTF velocity", but how exactly does that allow for FTL velocity?
Light can travel at the speed of 299,792,458 m/s because photons have no mass.
Does that mean that a mass effect engine or mass relay can drop the mass of something under the value of zero?
Is that even scientifically possible (not the mass effect theory, but matter having negative mass)?

Sure, it's just positive in another universe.

[IllusiveMike]

DocDoomII wrote...

Wait a second.
The mass effect concept consists of a mass effect field to reduce the mass of something so that it can be accelerated to some hypothetical "WTF velocity", but how exactly does that allow for FTL velocity?
Light can travel at the speed of 299,792,458 m/s because photons have no mass.
Does that mean that a mass effect engine or mass relay can drop the mass of something under the value of zero?
Is that even scientifically possible (not the mass effect theory, but matter having negative mass)?

I think the difference is that photons have no means of accelerating once they are emitted.  Whereas the Normandy has the mass of a photon PLUS giant thrusters.  So it may accelerate to greater speeds.  Either way, it is more a convienent way around relativity.

I did just read Anderson mention the ship was traveling 50 times the speed of light in Revelations.

[DocDoomII]

IllusiveMike wrote...

DocDoomII wrote...

Wait a second.
The mass effect concept consists of a mass effect field to reduce the mass of something so that it can be accelerated to some hypothetical "WTF velocity", but how exactly does that allow for FTL velocity?
Light can travel at the speed of 299,792,458 m/s because photons have no mass.
Does that mean that a mass effect engine or mass relay can drop the mass of something under the value of zero?
Is that even scientifically possible (not the mass effect theory, but matter having negative mass)?

I think the difference is that photons have no means of accelerating once they are emitted.  Whereas the Normandy has the mass of a photon PLUS giant thrusters.  So it may accelerate to greater speeds.  Either way, it is more a convienent way around relativity.

I did just read Anderson mention the ship was traveling 50 times the speed of light in Revelations.

If that was the case, I'd expect that all those folks with a particle accelerator would have started long ago to challenge one another and see who could accelerate a photon to the fastest velocity, lol

[mcneil_1]

Luc0s wrote...

I think Mass Effect should have never used FTL bullcrap and should have simply used The Warp and Warp travel. ;-)

I mean, we already have the asari with their mind-reading mumbo-jumbo and in ME3 we'll have the "spoiler squaddie" with his "memories of the cosmos"-reading mumbo-jumbo, so why not drop the whole wannabe pseudo-science part and go for an all-out fantasy approach like Warhammer 40k and it's Warp?

In fact, I think The Warp makes more sense and is in a way more realistic than Mass Effect's FTL travel and Mass Relays.

I agree, just as long as the ships navigator can find the astronomican and the gellar field doesnt fail

Modifié par mcneil_1, 27 décembre 2011 - 02:02 .

[Giant ambush beetle]

How fast is FTL?

Very fast.

[Oooh shiny]

JeffZero wrote...

Faster than light.

>_>

LOL! I like this human, he understands and as a bonus has Crichton as his avatar 

[TheJiveDJ]

Luc0s wrote...

I think Mass Effect should have never used FTL bullcrap and should have simply used The Warp and Warp travel. ;-)

I mean, we already have the asari with their mind-reading mumbo-jumbo and in ME3 we'll have the "spoiler squaddie" with his "memories of the cosmos"-reading mumbo-jumbo, so why not drop the whole wannabe pseudo-science part and go for an all-out fantasy approach like Warhammer 40k and it's Warp?

In fact, I think The Warp makes more sense and is in a way more realistic than Mass Effect's FTL travel and Mass Relays.

Hmmm....Mass Effect's FTL may not be as "pseudo-science" as you think.  Humans avoid the effects of relativity by using element zero to reduce the mass of the ship to almost nothing, allowing it to travel at light speed or beyond (this is called the "Mass Effect").  The theory is scientifically sound; assuming we were actually able to reduce the mass of an object, it could theoretically be accelerated to light speed without the need for infinite energy while at the same time avoiding the effects of relativity. 

Also, Mass Relays utilize wormholes which again, are theoretically possible ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole ).  All-in-all I'd say that BioWare's writing team has done a good job in creating a believable universe....except for maybe the Asari mind-meld stuf, that's just way out there.

[HTTP 404]

its pretty fast

[HTTP 404]

DocDoomII wrote...

the almighty moo wrote...

if the mass relays use wormholes then the entry and exit points at two locations in space would make it almost instantanious travel.

otherwise it would be facking fast.

you are configusing mass relays with stargates

no I think he is talking about wormholes.  stargate didn't come up with that first