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[saracen16]

I wonder if we get to see Lt. Ganto Imness of the 3rd Infiltration Regiment, STG, come back in ME3... I mean, we did let him outrun the blast, right?

[1upD]

 I don't see what it's SO completely out of the question. Sovereign clearly outran the blast (Or was shielded against it) We don't actually see Kaidan/Ashley die, we just see them defending the bomb and then assume that the game time correlates to real time and that the scene was only a few seconds before the explosion (rather than a few "skipped" minutes in which the sacrifced person was extracted)

I'm just saying it's possible, not that it isn't stupid. If a ship on the enemy side could get to the bomb, they'd try to disarm it, not randomly abduct the soldier left  bleeding out in front of it.  Plus, it would be pretty unbelievable to pull a character we KNOW died back into the story at this point, especially when there's so much consequence for losing them already.

[Gabey5]

the only way they could survive was if they were beamed out

[SPACE_GREASER]

what if nuclear radiation wasn't actually harmful

[The Spamming Troll]

hopefully biowares writers can spin the VS thing into more of a teenage mutant ninja turtle reference. maybe ash or kaiden just gets radioactivated into a ninja turtle. i mean its possible.

[Halfdan The Menace]

And now all he have to do is save the galaxy before eating Shep's brain.

[Sebbe1337o]

KAIDAN****
God f*cking damn it...

[DRACO1130]

ediskrad327 wrote...

i don't think anyone can survive being nuke'd

Babylon 5 - Shadow enhanced humans survived ground Zero detonation of some 26 Super Nukes - thank goodness the Shadows and Reapers aren't allies.

[Teeebs]

Some people really need to look up the definition of "vaporized" if they really think that blast was survivable.....

[CptData]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

i dint lyke ashley dat much but dat wus b4 bioware made her hella sexi tbh

hella true homie tbh
i lyke her a bit moar now tho snce she read dat horizon letter tbh

Yay! Mission accomplished ^^
(Seriously ... both VA should have done this for ME2 in game ...)

[Ramus Quaritch]

I suspected that for ME2 the person you left behind on Virmire would turn out to be alive and be the main antagonist (or at least working for the Reapers). My theory was that the Collector's were secretly on Virmire and captured him/her at the last minute before the bomb blew. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that that was not the case and that the person left behind on Virmire was killed. I'm glad Bioware stuck to it and didn't pull a comic book resurrection. Resurrecting Shepard was tolerable. More than one resurrection, however, and I start losing immersion.

[someone else]

...so quick to dis the OP..couldn't the VS be Jesus come back at last -humanities secret irresistible weapon against the reapers -also neatly solves deus ex machina problem ...

[CptData]

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

I suspected that for ME2 the person you left behind on Virmire would turn out to be alive and be the main antagonist (or at least working for the Reapers). My theory was that the Collector's were secretly on Virmire and captured him/her at the last minute before the bomb blew. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that that was not the case and that the person left behind on Virmire was killed. I'm glad Bioware stuck to it and didn't pull a comic book resurrection. Resurrecting Shepard was tolerable. More than one resurrection, however, and I start losing immersion.

The funny thing is: I can't concur. I dislike the entire "kill Shepard & bring him back". It doesn't help anything and could have been done better. Why not using him/her as agent to infiltrate Cerberus? Why did Shepard have to die to become part of Cerberus? Or did s/he have to die to explain two full years lacking any preparation for a Reaper invasion?

To me, Shepard's death doesn't make much sense, not even for the drama.

And I'm kinda glad the VV (Virmire Victim) stays dead. I like Kaidan. But I would hate to see my decision "nullified" by some cheap plot twist.

[BatmanPWNS]

If that Asari doctor could run away from a nuke than anyone can.

Just kidding. The person left is dead and this isn't a comic book where people come back from the dead.

[someone else]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

If that Asari doctor could run away from a nuke than anyone can.

Just kidding. The person left is dead and this isn't a comic book where people come back from the dead.

...yah well except for lazarus...

[DRSH]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What remains would... remain?

Their body was decimated and charred by a nuclear blast.

Shepard went face first into Alchera's snow so... but I'm pretty sure the Virmire non-Survivor non-survived & won't be Lazarused by the Reapers or any other organization.

[AgitatedLemon]

DRSH wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

What remains would... remain?

Their body was decimated and charred by a nuclear blast.

Shepard went face first into Alchera's snow so... but I'm pretty sure the Virmire non-Survivor non-survived & won't be Lazarused by the Reapers or any other organization.

Being decimated from a nuclear blast and falling into a planet's atmosphere are very different things.

Anything within a hundred or so kilometers of the blast will leave an outline of ash and char. The VS, sitting almost literally on top of the bomb, would practically phase out of existence the second it detonated.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 28 décembre 2011 - 08:09 .

[1upD]

CptData wrote...

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

I suspected that for ME2 the person you left behind on Virmire would turn out to be alive and be the main antagonist (or at least working for the Reapers). My theory was that the Collector's were secretly on Virmire and captured him/her at the last minute before the bomb blew. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that that was not the case and that the person left behind on Virmire was killed. I'm glad Bioware stuck to it and didn't pull a comic book resurrection. Resurrecting Shepard was tolerable. More than one resurrection, however, and I start losing immersion.

The funny thing is: I can't concur. I dislike the entire "kill Shepard & bring him back". It doesn't help anything and could have been done better. Why not using him/her as agent to infiltrate Cerberus? Why did Shepard have to die to become part of Cerberus? Or did s/he have to die to explain two full years lacking any preparation for a Reaper invasion?

To me, Shepard's death doesn't make much sense, not even for the drama.

And I'm kinda glad the VV (Virmire Victim) stays dead. I like Kaidan. But I would hate to see my decision "nullified" by some cheap plot twist.

I know that this subject has been discussed before, and I don't want to go too off-topic with it, but I can't help but think about it now.  I understand Shepard's death and resurrection are important because two years have to pass in which Shepard is not alive.  What I don't understand is why the writers didn't have him run back down into one of those stasis pods that were conveniently on the Normandy SR1 and never used.  Lost in deep space in stasis, and found two years later when the Shadow Broker discovered the SOS from the pod (which may take a long time to get anywhere in space) would have made a lot more sense to me. Of course, Shepard is more indebted to Cerberus when they actually rebuild him rather than just opening his can.  But couldn't two years in stasis damage the body to the extent Lazarus would still be needed?

I guess I just went in a circle, but I think my point remains.

[Eclipse_9990]

"God damnit Ashley! I don't like you, and necrophilia is illegal in this part of the galaxy! Get back in your grave!"

[nitefyre410]

Survive Virmire... why the frak not Shepard was brought back from the dead after making planet fall.

[HappyHappyJoyJoy]

Maybe the person left on Virmire hid in a refrigerator...?

[ubermensch007]

what if the person who "died" on virmire isn't really dead?

Well, if you' re like me, and  watched the 'Leaked Mass Effect 3 Demo on YouTube. Without giving away any Spoilers or anything.The prologue wasn't bad.It was quite good actually... Well it was good if your Commander Shepard is Pro-Alliance.Mine... Not so much. The Demo sort of felt like it completely omits anything and everything that took place in Mass Effect 2. It as though, BioWare just released ME1 and the Arrival DLC and now we have ME3

You see Lieutenant Ashley Williams in the Demo and Admiral Anderson talks to Major Alenko over the phone.Which is sort of bizarre.What with one of these folks suppose to be - being dead and all.

Modifié par ubermensch007, 29 décembre 2011 - 12:50 .

[SPACE_GREASER]

ubermensch007 wrote...

what if the person who "died" on virmire isn't really dead?

Well, if you' re like me, and  watched the 'Leaked Mass Effect 3 Demo on YouTube. Without giving away any Spoilers or anything.The prologue wasn't bad.It was quite good actually... Well it was good if your Commander Shepard is Pro-Alliance.Mine... Not so much. The Demo sort of felt like it completely omits anything and everything that took place in Mass Effect 2. It as though, BioWare just released ME1 and the Arrival DLC and now we have ME3

You see Lieutenant Ashley Williams in the Demo and Admiral Anderson talks to Major Alenko over the phone.Which is sort of bizarre.What with one of these folks suppose to be - being dead and all.

that's probably a bug from the Beta state it's in.  

[Changonauta]

ubermensch007 wrote...

what if the person who "died" on virmire isn't really dead?

Well, if you' re like me, and  watched the 'Leaked Mass Effect 3 Demo on YouTube. Without giving away any Spoilers or anything.The prologue wasn't bad.It was quite good actually... Well it was good if your Commander Shepard is Pro-Alliance.Mine... Not so much. The Demo sort of felt like it completely omits anything and everything that took place in Mass Effect 2. It as though, BioWare just released ME1 and the Arrival DLC and now we have ME3

You see Lieutenant Ashley Williams in the Demo and Admiral Anderson talks to Major Alenko over the phone.Which is sort of bizarre.What with one of these folks suppose to be - being dead and all.

that could be a bug you know

[1upD]

Changonauta wrote...

ubermensch007 wrote...

what if the person who "died" on virmire isn't really dead?

Well, if you' re like me, and  watched the 'Leaked Mass Effect 3 Demo on YouTube. Without giving away any Spoilers or anything.The prologue wasn't bad.It was quite good actually... Well it was good if your Commander Shepard is Pro-Alliance.Mine... Not so much. The Demo sort of felt like it completely omits anything and everything that took place in Mass Effect 2. It as though, BioWare just released ME1 and the Arrival DLC and now we have ME3

You see Lieutenant Ashley Williams in the Demo and Admiral Anderson talks to Major Alenko over the phone.Which is sort of bizarre.What with one of these folks suppose to be - being dead and all.

that could be a bug you know

That is a bug, you mean. Or simply a placeholder - that footage was unfinished, so maybe the dialogue wasn't finished recording either. Unlikely, but very possible. Keep in mind we weren't supposed to see that section yet.