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[RampantAndroid]

Aldora92 wrote...

Well, 2 theories, one were the warden is the architect (most unlikely) the other where his ritual child is, if it were the warden it would be the same as what happened to Morrigan, in my theory of her becoming the mother... this all comes from them going through the Eluvian, which has been known to carry the darkspawn corruption.

Again, unless the iluvian transports you through time, it's not possible. The 
architect  caused the latest blight.

[jlb524]

Aldora92 wrote...

It has a strong part in the story for in witch hunt.
Besides, we know that it has a strong magic, Morrigan/Flemmeth, Merril and the magisters all want to use them. I think it will be cannon that the warden goes through, thus disappearing, which we know happened to both the warden and hawke...

This is how i have interpreted the story anyhow

I'm guessing sure the Warden will end up going through one and joining Morrigan regardless (so all the Warden's are in the 'same place'...if alive).

They'll probably just kill Hawke off.  Varric said Hawke is probably still alive but Varric is full of it.

[Aldora92]

RampantAndroid wrote...


Again, unless the iluvian transports you through time, it's not possible. The 
architect  caused the latest blight.

My theory is based either on the Eluvian being able to trnsport you throught time, or the fade being a timeless place.

It can also be argued that time is an illusion, not real, and every event, both past, present and future are being played out in some dimension at a single moment, that is to say, that in another dimension, just as morrigan and the warden step through the eluvian, they are transported to the dimension, or realm, where the invasion is just being carried out. This is a real theory of time, in the real world, and i have just placed it into the story to make it relevent to my point. Though this does rely on the theory of the eluvian being able to transport people through different dimensions, which would not be too hard to implement into the story, as the fade can be considered another dimension, and IS considered to be a different realm.

[Aldora92]

@jlb524 i think that we are given the option, as the warden, for RPing purposes, we want to see how morrigan would have reacted if we stayed, or not done the ritual, or how alistair would have been if you were nasty to him the whole way through. I think Bioware are counting on the hope that people will use there characters the predictable stuff, like romance Morrigan, do the ritual and follow her through the mirror, yes, we may not have done all of this on our first character, but it makes for the best story, and makes us wonder what happens next, as appose to us wondering what happened to the warden after being with Zevrann... Every other option cuts the story short, not making us wonder...

As for killing off Hawke, i think this would be a mistake for the story, but for gameplay complications of having the warden AND Hawke, possibly a new hero in DA3, it makes sense... Unless the 2, possible 3 heroes never meet or are no longer playable and become NPCs...

[RampantAndroid]

Aldora92 wrote...

@jlb524 i think that we are given the option, as the warden, for RPing purposes, we want to see how morrigan would have reacted if we stayed, or not done the ritual, or how alistair would have been if you were nasty to him the whole way through. I think Bioware are counting on the hope that people will use there characters the predictable stuff, like romance Morrigan, do the ritual and follow her through the mirror, yes, we may not have done all of this on our first character, but it makes for the best story, and makes us wonder what happens next, as appose to us wondering what happened to the warden after being with Zevrann... Every other option cuts the story short, not making us wonder...

As for killing off Hawke, i think this would be a mistake for the story, but for gameplay complications of having the warden AND Hawke, possibly a new hero in DA3, it makes sense... Unless the 2, possible 3 heroes never meet or are no longer playable and become NPCs...

How many people here played as a female warden? Now, I'm going to guess a good percentage. That being true, you CAN'T romance Morrigan. Your theory here is based on tons of assumptions and creations of your own.

[Aldora92]

As i have said, the story will most likely follow a male warden who romanced morrigan, done the ritual and and went through the Eluvian, This makes for the best story and makes us speculate what happens next, i know people play female wardens, i did myself, but if you choose any optins other then what i have listed you are not left wondering how the story will be picked up, i dont see any specualtions about what the Female elf sleeping with the King is doing now.

The story of Origins seems to be about ending the blight, and Flemeth and Morrigan wanting the OG spirit, every other choice has little consequence, you can have a child with morrigan and not do the ritual, thats a normal kid, in no way would Alistair or Loghain sleep with Morrigan to do the ritual, these seem to be options to make us feel like we have a choice in the matter. For the sake of the story i doubt that they will take anything else into account, and will go with the story about romancing morrigan and having the OGB with her, then following her through the Eluvian to get answers.

I know not everybody did all of this, but it makes for the best story and has cliff hangers, this is the obvious choice to continue the story.

[jlb524]

Aldora92 wrote...
I know not everybody did all of this, but it makes for the best story and has cliff hangers, this is the obvious choice to continue the story.

I wouldn't say that.

You may think it's the best choice because it makes for the best story but not everyone agrees.

I personally think romancing Leliana with a pro-mage freedom Circle Mage Warden is more interesting given the upcoming mage/templar war.   But that's simply my opinion, ofc.

I do have one Warden that romanced Morrigan and went through the mirror (I romanced her with a female using a mod so she didn't do the DR and Alistair did it instead)...I still prefer my other Warden though.

I still think all Warden's (if living) will end up with Morrigan somehow during DA3 regardless of romance status or gender or if the DR was performed so I think any Warden's story will fit as far as the Morrigan/Flemeth/eluvian plot is concerned.

[RampantAndroid]

Aldora92 wrote...

I know not everybody did all of this, but it makes for the best story and has cliff hangers, this is the obvious choice to continue the story.

Err, no...

My guesses: Morrigan went through the illuvian, no matter what. Just like Liara became shadow broker regardless of whether you helped. The warden going through will be a switch for import. The ritual will be an import flag/switch. Same as who is king or queen.

I honestly think we will see a new protagonist in DA3, and all we'll get from DAO and DA2 will be some things changed in the game...hopefully MORE than we saw in DA2 or ME2, but something like that. Which is good and bad. I'd like to see more character development on people we know, but a new story would also be interesting.

[Aldora92]

I hope for a new story, just so long as we get answers, either in DA3, an expansion of another sequel, it will always be nice to see old faces, i would love to see minor characters, like Connor return as a fully fledged mage, free from the circle, or the return of Sten, who is now Tal Vashoth because the Warden changed his view on the world.

The only thing that i want is answers, and you said about certain things being a switch, like who is on the throne, but in the end they will always find a way arround it, i chose to kill flemeth, every time, she is still in DA2... they only need to think up a good excuse and we will accept whatever they throw at us, some more willing then others

[RampantAndroid]

Aldora92 wrote...
or the return of Sten, who is now Tal Vashoth because the Warden changed his view on the world.

You're not getting my point though....I ignored Sten....they can bring back a DAO or DA2 character (and they are MORE likely to bring back Hawke than the Warden, IMO) but there can be no assumptions...

[Aldora92]

Just got a random thought, perhaps Warden and morrigans OGB was a girl... maybe the eluvian moved her through time... maybe we already know the OGB, and it is flemeth.

Unlikely but it just popped into my head.

Also i think it is likely that Flemeth IS a prophet, maybe she is andraste maybe not, but she does seem to be like a prophet, with knowledge of things yet to come, and she seems to like the idea that the world can be a darkspawn free place, which the maker would also want.