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[ADLegend21]

Ryzaki wrote...

strive wrote...

. A single breather mask accessory is a component that can be added to any character without obscuring their identity, to convey the idea that they're in a hostile environment. (conversely, shepard chooses to wear a helmet in those situations because (s)he prefers it?

Yes but all that conveying is moot if it isn't consistent. Instead we just have a jumbled mess. You got Thane with a enclosed mask on but his chest exposed. You got Jack with just a mask covering her nose/mouth(IIRC). You got grunt covered up except his arms. A Shepard who never wears a helmet all game throws one on when Miranda can just slap on a mask? Then you got visor-fetish Garrus all helmeted up.

This is my main problem.

My Shepard used the Sentry Visior for the bonus to shielding. (Plus it was convient to my Shep in other ways including looks). Why would he/she lose that bonus if he/she doesn't have to? Why not just place on a breather like Miranda? It makes no sense.

That's why I want Shep to have a choice.

Actualyl you can mod breathings masks onto shepard. Seen it hundreds of times in the femshep thread. you can ask some of the regulars there how to do it.

[nitefyre410]

Bluko wrote...

eyesofastorm wrote...

I've at least skimmed this entire thread and I find something interesting. This thing I find interesting is that while many people have come out against this breather-mask inconsistency and probably about as many have said that it's not an issue for them, I don't think I've seen one single, solitary little soul say that they prefer the breather-masks. So then, the question becomes; why does Bioware insist on them? I mean... they also insist that they listen to their fans. So I mean... that's kind of obviously not true at this point. And I could accept it if they gave a legitimate reason why they have to rock the breather-masks, but the official word is apparently that they like them so the fans can just suck it. Setting aside the whole, "We listen to our fans. (NOT!)" issue, it just really makes me wonder if there is anyone in the whole company that has been to business school...

This is a good point. Yes it's Bioware's game and they can do whatever they want with it. But it's in there best interest to make a product people want.

Granted we are arguing over one small part of the game. But if you have the ability to make something people would want more, uh why wouldn't you? Helmets cannot be that hard to make, especially if they have the ability to make masks.

Of course now someone will say this forum community is wrong and does represent most player's opinions. Well if that's the case shut this place down as it's totally useless for feedback.

 


I would not say wrong but the community does exist with in its own kinda of echo chamber which some of us have to leave for a bit and come back.  If the only prespective  is the one of the fourmities then its  not a complete persecptive. So Useless not but  it needs to used in conjunction with other feed back.

[Ryzaki]

ADLegend21 wrote...
Actualyl you can mod breathings masks onto shepard. Seen it hundreds of times in the femshep thread. you can ask some of the regulars there how to do it.

Please tell me you don't need texmod.

[goofyomnivore]

Now, honestly, I rolled my eyes at that nonsense because of what I said
eariler.  However, I'm replying at the fact that people would defend
that garbage?  No.  No matter what's going on, you - as an employee - do
not have the priviledge of
addressing anyone in any manner that doesn't coincide with
professionalism unless the "offending party" is physically attacking
you.  Period.

If he didn't follow up the original "Deal with it." I could see how people could get the idea of him "trolling" or whatever you want to call it. But he did give an insightful and honest answer a few moments later whether you agree with it or not. I thought those three words were pretty spot on myself. It doesn't mean I agree with or like his opinion, but fact of the matter is I gotta "Deal with it.".

Modifié par strive, 29 décembre 2011 - 03:56 .

[nitefyre410]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Sooo. Whats the subject now?

same thing ... this has been a rather civil and well mannered  thread of the  most  part.

[Grinchy]

Xeranx wrote...

That may be so, but Priestly is a representative for the company on the boards.  He's supposed to maintain a professional attitude regardless of how he may feel about anything and everything.  That's part of business 101 and I haven't taken a single class on the subject.  

He doesn't get to ****** off potential customers with blatant nonsensical meme crap.  If he wants to have fun at someone else's expense he can play pranks on his friends who don't pay his bills or have very little influence on whether or not he retains his position.  If I was his boss he'd be fired.  Any employee that costs me a sale (on purpose) is an employee I don't need.

Now, honestly, I rolled my eyes at that nonsense because of what I said eariler.  However, I'm replying at the fact that people would defend that garbage?  No.  No matter what's going on, you - as an employee - do not have the priviledge of addressing anyone in any manner that doesn't coincide with professionalism unless the "offending party" is physically attacking you.  Period.

Being a potential customer (how unlikely it might be in some cases) does not warrant an abusive, disruptive behaviour from a client-to-be who is having a false sense of entitlement.
Customer is NOT always right.
Sometimes the price of serving this type of a client is more costly than (un)politely refusing to listen to rants.

[ediskrad327]

this is STILL going on?

[nitefyre410]

xGrinchy wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

That may be so, but Priestly is a representative for the company on the boards.  He's supposed to maintain a professional attitude regardless of how he may feel about anything and everything.  That's part of business 101 and I haven't taken a single class on the subject.  

He doesn't get to ****** off potential customers with blatant nonsensical meme crap.  If he wants to have fun at someone else's expense he can play pranks on his friends who don't pay his bills or have very little influence on whether or not he retains his position.  If I was his boss he'd be fired.  Any employee that costs me a sale (on purpose) is an employee I don't need.

Now, honestly, I rolled my eyes at that nonsense because of what I said eariler.  However, I'm replying at the fact that people would defend that garbage?  No.  No matter what's going on, you - as an employee - do not have the priviledge of addressing anyone in any manner that doesn't coincide with professionalism unless the "offending party" is physically attacking you.  Period.

Being a potential customer (how unlikely it might be in some cases) does not warrant an abusive, disruptive behaviour from a client-to-be who is having a false sense of entitlement.
Customer is NOT always right.
Sometimes the price of serving this type of a client is more costly than (un)politely refusing to listen to rants.

Honestly I  really think that Preistly right know is not giving a single frak about telling Terror  to  Deal with it.

[SPACE_GREASER]

can someone shoot me a link to these screens?

[eyesofastorm]

jreezy wrote...

You have to remember though that even if a company feels fan feedback is somewhat important every aspect of a game won't and shouldn't look towards the fans for input before making a decision. It's nice to get ideas every now and then from fans but a game's development should never be centered around just them.

Whether they looked for feedback on the issue or not, they've got it now... and it seems to be pretty clear.  If it's too late to implement it... well, that would have been a hell of a lot better a response than basically, "We like it and we don't care if you don't," which I don't think requires too much squinting of one's eyes to see in Priestly's response.  My issue is not with breathers... it's with the gap between the company Bioware was five years ago and the company they are now.  They keep fronting by saying that they listen to the fans and feedback is important to them and then when you follow closely enough, you see stuff like this.  Once Mass Effect 3 comes out, I think I need to reassess the amount of faith I have invested in Bioware.  

[nitefyre410]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Sooo. Whats the subject now?

same thing ... this has been a rather civil and well mannered  thread of the  most  part.

Sry for trolling I just think since I stopped posting pages ago that I think its a little odd with it still going on. But that s because new people keep on coming in. 

 


I ain't even mad bro ... I was simple giving the state of the thread.

[Someone With Mass]

neo7732 wrote...

can someone shoot me a link to these screens?

http://www.atgamerma.../16_Feature.pdf

There you go.

[SPACE_GREASER]

Someone With Mass wrote...

neo7732 wrote...

can someone shoot me a link to these screens?

http://www.atgamerma.../16_Feature.pdf

There you go.

much appreciated 

[Sylvianus]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Sooo. Whats the subject now?

I don't know, they just repeat the same thing every post unnecessarily with different examples. " It makes no sense ", except that everyone knows that it does not make sense. Everyone just does not feel the need to cry about this detail.

______

And otherwise, I liked the Honesty of Chris, I like to know when Bioware does not care at all about a point,

And he simply said, deal with it, thank you not to behave as if it had insulted someone. And you must be new here, that is not the first moderator of bioware that is saying some "cool" stuff like that.

David Gaider and Stanley Woo for example, several times. I still don't know what shocked you particularly there.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:03 .

[Xeranx]

Atakuma wrote...

Xeranx wrote...
Now, honestly, I rolled my eyes at that nonsense because of what I said eariler.  However, I'm replying at the fact that people would defend that garbage?  No.  No matter what's going on, you - as an employee - do not have the priviledge of addressing anyone in any manner that doesn't coincide with professionalism unless the "offending party" is physically attacking you.  Period.

You are not his boss, it isn't up to you to decide wether his response was acceptable or not. What he said was hardly offensive, you act like he insulted the op.

When did I say I was his boss?  Did I say that or are you arbitrarily making something up so that you can make a response?  Rhetorical question as it's the latter, of course.  

And did I say that what he said was offensive?  A number of people have noted Priestly's tone.  So I'm definitely not the only person who saw the unprofessional attitude displayed.

And finally, he doesn't have to insult Terror K.  His reply actually serves to draw contempt for himself and the company he works for.  I worked retail where all number of customers come into the shop.  Some with good attitudes and others with attitudes best left in the gutter they got them from.  Fact of the matter is, if I ever engaged in a confrontation with a customer who upset me (not laid a hand on me) my job was on the line.  And that's the way it works anywhere else if the business is worth a red cent it earns.  Fact.  Circumstances as to how the confrontation got to that point are details because as an employee, your job is not to stoke the fire but to find a way to put it out quickly and without mess if at all possible.

[Alex Arterius]

nitefyre410 wrote...

xGrinchy wrote...

Xeranx wrote...

That may be so, but Priestly is a representative for the company on the boards.  He's supposed to maintain a professional attitude regardless of how he may feel about anything and everything.  That's part of business 101 and I haven't taken a single class on the subject.  

He doesn't get to ****** off potential customers with blatant nonsensical meme crap.  If he wants to have fun at someone else's expense he can play pranks on his friends who don't pay his bills or have very little influence on whether or not he retains his position.  If I was his boss he'd be fired.  Any employee that costs me a sale (on purpose) is an employee I don't need.

Now, honestly, I rolled my eyes at that nonsense because of what I said eariler.  However, I'm replying at the fact that people would defend that garbage?  No.  No matter what's going on, you - as an employee - do not have the priviledge of addressing anyone in any manner that doesn't coincide with professionalism unless the "offending party" is physically attacking you.  Period.

Being a potential customer (how unlikely it might be in some cases) does not warrant an abusive, disruptive behaviour from a client-to-be who is having a false sense of entitlement.
Customer is NOT always right.
Sometimes the price of serving this type of a client is more costly than (un)politely refusing to listen to rants.

Honestly I  really think that Preistly right know is not giving a single frak about telling Terror  to  Deal with it.

I think that was very well put Xeranx - if I were to talk out of hand at a customer in the shop I work, I would recieve a severe caution or disiplinary action, it could even get to the stage where I lose my job.

Priesty was very rude, and spoke very out of tone, I may think this thread is a complete joke but there is no excuse for Bioware staff to talk out of hand to passionate fans (we're all only doing this beacuse we care at the end of the day right?) as far as i'm concerned Priestiys attitude here has made me severely question Biowares motives, and his comments taint the companies reputation as well as his own.

[Grinchy]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Honestly I  really think that Preistly right know is not giving a single frak about telling Terror  to  Deal with it.

Why should he? It is like telling a local drunk who shows almost every day at the local shop and pees on a floor to bugger off because it is scaring the customers away. Regular day. Life goes on.

[Alex Arterius]

Xeranx wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Xeranx wrote...
Now, honestly, I rolled my eyes at that nonsense because of what I said eariler.  However, I'm replying at the fact that people would defend that garbage?  No.  No matter what's going on, you - as an employee - do not have the priviledge of addressing anyone in any manner that doesn't coincide with professionalism unless the "offending party" is physically attacking you.  Period.

You are not his boss, it isn't up to you to decide wether his response was acceptable or not. What he said was hardly offensive, you act like he insulted the op.

When did I say I was his boss?  Did I say that or are you arbitrarily making something up so that you can make a response?  Rhetorical question as it's the latter, of course.  

And did I say that what he said was offensive?  A number of people have noted Priestly's tone.  So I'm definitely not the only person who saw the unprofessional attitude displayed.

And finally, he doesn't have to insult Terror K.  His reply actually serves to draw contempt for himself and the company he works for.  I worked retail where all number of customers come into the shop.  Some with good attitudes and others with attitudes best left in the gutter they got them from.  Fact of the matter is, if I ever engaged in a confrontation with a customer who upset me (not laid a hand on me) my job was on the line.  And that's the way it works anywhere else if the business is worth a red cent it earns.  Fact.  Circumstances as to how the confrontation got to that point are details because as an employee, your job is not to stoke the fire but to find a way to put it out quickly and without mess if at all possible.

Further reinforcement but - THIS

[Sylvianus]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Sooo. Whats the subject now?

I don't know, they just repeat the same thing every post unnecessarily with different examples. " It makes no sense ", except that everyone knows that it does not make sense. Everyone just does not feel the need to cry about this detail.

______

And otherwise, I liked the Honesty of Chris, I like to know when Bioware does not care at all about a point,

And he simply said, deal with it, thank you not to behave as if it had insulted someone. And you must be new here, that is not the first moderator of bioware that is saying some "cool" stuff like that.

David Gaider and Stanley Woo for example, several times. I still don't know what shocked you particularly there.

Well IMO the sad part is I think people took Terror seriously. Well I didn't, thought Terror was looking for 5 secs of fame.

Personally, I never, never, never saw someone complaining so much about, well, everything. Not to offense the op, But it seems that she hates and will hate everything in this franchise.  I never saw her, saying one day something positive since I am on the bsn. Now one year. I never read entirely what she write, but that's just me.