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[Sylvianus]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I think it's a him, actually.

Arf, avatars are always a trap. ><

Modifié par Sylvianus, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:32 .

[JeffZero]

I had quail for dinner. I felt bad. The little bird was stuffed with lamb sausage. The poor little lamb was made to fill the poor little quail. The poor little animals died for my pleasure. I may turn vegetarian now. I am sad.

[Bluko]

jreezy wrote...

You have to remember though that even if a company feels fan feedback is somewhat important every aspect of a game won't and shouldn't look towards the fans for input before making a decision. It's nice to get ideas every now and then from fans but a game's development should never be centered around just them.

Umm why not?

If you have the ability to read minds and make a game everyone wants (or most everyone) that's what you should do. Making the game you only want defeats the purpose of making something for others. Well I guess you can do that, just don't expect to make money or earn people's gratitude.

Granted I understand people are not necessarily always real good at explaining what they want, so you do have to filter through the feedback you get to find out what you need to do. And there are limits to what you can do. Obviously it'd be difficult for Bioware to include a First Person View in ME3. (Well maybe, it's probably not that difficult as many shooters offer the option of either.)

However in this case I think it's pretty clear. If you're going to say  breather masks are a better alternative I think it's best all us puny minded folk know why. The reasoning behind the continued use of breathing masks seems very questionable to me.

[Sylvianus]

What is upsetting, is that Beatties in 19 days has only 17 pages in 19 days, while this thread in only some hours has already more than 20 pages.

wtf ? xD

Modifié par Sylvianus, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:36 .

[Inspectre]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Honestly I  really think that Preistly right know is not giving a single frak about telling Terror  to  Deal with it.

Loyal customers are the easiest to **** on, Preistly knows that Terror will still buy the game.  He just blew off some stress in a 'safe'fashion.

Seboist wrote...

Looks like BW got the idea for breather masks from ESB.

Yeah figures, trying to cash in on the popularity.
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ODST 5723 wrote...

I don't want a lot of things in ME.  I don't whine about them or have serious entitlement issues.  You do.

What is so wrong about questioning what you're paying for?  It's not like they're giving us the game for free.

[shepskisaac]

This is the new hot ME3 drama right?

[ediskrad327]

Sylvianus wrote...

What is upsetting, is that Beatties in 19 days has only 17 pages in 19 days, while this thread in only some hours has already more than 20 pages.

wtf ? xD

this is BSN, breathing masks are WAAAAAAAAAY more important than voice actors

Modifié par ediskrad327, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:40 .

[JeffZero]

Sylvianus wrote...

What is upsetting, is that Beatties in 19 days has only 17 pages in 19 days, while this thread in only some hours has already more than 20 pages.

wtf ? xD

You get the right people involved in something and they won't shut up. The issue with the breathing masks seems to have attracted more folks who are inclined to talk endlessly whereas one of the Beattie thread's most avid posters is myself, but I'm not the sort who will post a ton of times in the same thread.

I am much, muuuch more irked about the Beattie ordeal than I am about this, so I will continue posting there and not so much here. I would rather the team neglect to put any sort of special equipment whatsoever if it meant getting Mordin's proper voice actor back. I study voice acting; this stuff is what matters most to me.

[Sylvianus]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

What is upsetting, is that Beatties in 19 days has only 17 pages in 19 days, while this thread in only some hours has already more than 20 pages.

wtf ? xD

Its irrational I tell ya. I wondering how long this thread will actually go I guess I should stop typing.

I don't think it's irrational, it's just that breathing masks, this little detail that we'll see in a few minutes  in one or two cutscenes in all the game, are actually much more important than the true Mordin's voice.

I bet on 40 pages, personally, because that seems really important. Without them, it's like mass effect won't be mass effect anymore.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:51 .

[eyesofastorm]

Seriously people... half of the posts in this thread are people commenting on how many comments are being made. About a 1/3 is a discussion of the appropriateness/inappropriateness of Priestly's response to the OP and whether or not Bioware actually cares what it's customers want. Whatever remains is actually about the breathers. If you have an issue with the size of the thread, don't post. If everyone had done that from the start, we'd only be at about 12 pages at this point.

[goofyomnivore]

I'd say a third of this thread is dealing with Priestly's comments. edit: ()The Mordin thing has had like six months of speculation and numerous threads. Although I agree it is a damn shame it doesn't get more attention. And Beattie not voicing Mordin is x10 worse than simple aesthetics such as breathing masks/no breathing masks.

Modifié par strive, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:43 .

[Atakuma]

Bioware has one of the worst fanbases.

[eyesofastorm]

Atakuma wrote...

Bioware has one of the worst fanbases.

Bioware has one of the most devoted fanbases.  The problem is that Bioware no longer seems devoted to the same things as it's fanbase.

Modifié par eyesofastorm, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:45 .

[shepskisaac]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

The other week, a s/s thread hit 35 pages in a night.

Yeah but the last 15 pages were spent on building quotes pyramid lol

[BiggumsKlown]

Terror_K wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Seriously Terror. Deal with it.

Seriously?! If that's your attitude and the attitude of BioWare and the ME dev team these days, then to hell with you guys. You claim to care about the universe you've made and that you listen to fans, and yet you insist on giving all of us the middle-finger who actually care about the integrity, consistency and logic of the lore and precedence that you originally set.

Why should I care about what started off as a great sci-fi universe when the developers just clearly don't any more? When they can have an entire second act that centres around the main character getting spaced, dying and coming back to life because of the dangers of space, only for it to be trivialised for the entire rest of the series due to things like cleavage holes, nipple-straps, breathing masks and the like.

Yeah... way to stay true to your own work and way to try and keep fans with that attitude. If this is how ME3 is handled as a whole, the whole game is fail and the whole Mass Effect universe --one that started so well-- is bin-worthy now.

Bit of an over reaction if i do say so myself. You have no idea what the game has in store i as a whole, breathers are one of many things, perhaps they'll fave the full face masks via Mass Effect 1? But in my opinion its a small detail that can be over looked, and if you honestly want to make such a HUGE deal over nothing then you were never a fan, and to be perfectly honest, a bit of a child. And if you wish to give up on mass effect, good riddance.

[ODST 5723]

Bluko wrote...
If you have the ability to read minds and make a game everyone wants (or most everyone) that's what you should do.

First, and foremost this ability doesn't exist unless it's powered by eezo.

Second, there will be no game that everyone or most everyone wants because such a game would pull a developer in too many directions.

The fact that you bust out an "everyone" comment at all signals that you don't get it.  You're dealing with a game with limited resources, funded by limited resources that's trying to cater to a critical mass of consumers from some key market demographics.  Ideally, you want to please as many as possible but in reality, you're catering to a subset of the population.  If you want to define that as the BSN, then you're dealing with hardcore fringe consumers, who are one of the worst populations to base anything on since they are often the least representative of your actual and ideal consumer groups.

So engrossed in the minutia that they don't see the big picture or had such a ridiculously skewed and romanticized idea of the big picture that they simply cannot be satisfied anymore.

They're some of the most loyal, but potentially costly consumers to have and have the highest expectations, are the most likely to voice displeasure and feel through a skewed sence of brand loyalty that their loyalty should be rewarded and often that they have almost a sense of ownership with the property so that if it diverges they feel betrayed and like they've been wronged.

Modifié par ODST 5723, 29 décembre 2011 - 04:56 .

[Praetor Knight]

jreezy wrote...

Bluko wrote...
If you're going to say  breather masks are a better alternative I think it's best all us puny minded folk know why. The reasoning behind the continued use of breathing masks seems very questionable to me.

Although Chris basically said "Because we prefer the breather masks" that's obviously the very simplified explanation. I think the biggest reasoning behind the change was most likely a stylistic choice. Sometimes the breather masks just "fit" more with a certain attire instead of the usual helmets from ME1.

Well, I'd be fine with the breather masks as long as they'd cover the entire face at least.

Like Zaeed's mask or Joker's here: