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[CroGamer002]

Il Divo wrote...

eyesofastorm wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Seriously Terror. Deal with it.

I'm not big on the breathing masks either, but they aren't a big deal to me.  This what you say here Priestly is kind of a big deal... you guys have turned into complete douchebags.  You're like the freaks and geeks in middle school that went away for the summer and your skin cleared up or you grew some epic boobs and now you are the cool kids and can't be bothered with this geeky stuff.  Only that's not true.  You are actually nowhere near as cool as you used to be, but for some reason you guys act like you're tha bomb now.  Get over yourselves before everyone else does.  

I'm with Bioware on this one. Respect is a two-way street, in my book. The opening post was far from an exercise in politeness. There are plenty of ways to express yourself effectively. Ranting is really not one of them.

^This.

Terror is pretty much a douche to Bioware devs( and fans) for the most of time.

[TMA LIVE]

I'm more wondering why Liara is wearing it, but Shep and V are not. Environment bad for asari?

[Mazder]

To be perfectly honest this thing is easily rectified with waiting patiently, while I dislike some of the more over the top "oversexualisation" in the game I do believe that some should be present.
That being said the breathing masks are a bit iffy, I mean if there are say airbourne irritants in the air and the characters are seen pulling it out as an emergency measure because they left a helmet behind then sure, I could accept that, but even modern military by today's standards use a full face, if not full head covering combo, sealed gasmask which protects the eyes as well as the airways.

I would prefer the option to choose what your characters wear like in ME1, but then if we are forced to have some squaddies having the little masks then at least have one scene where it is shown that they are used in some sort of emergency, or giving off their reasoning for not having a fully protective helmet on.
That was missing in ME2 I thought.

Also Priestly your conduct in this particular matter is less than acceptable. Telling a fan to "deal with it" when they bring up a point based on material released by the company that you do moderating work for you should really be calming them down and reassuring them instead of essentially telling them to go "f*ck themselves" when they raise a valid point.

I mean come on, you're a moderator for f*ck's sake, please stop acting like a troll and show some support to the community, rather than being worse for us overall.

[ForteSJGR]

Il Divo wrote...
I'm with Bioware on this one. Respect is a two-way street, in my book. The opening post was far from an exercise in politeness. There are plenty of ways to express yourself effectively. Ranting is really not one of them.

^ This.....
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[CroGamer002]

strive wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

strive wrote...

To everyone saying it is "sci-fi" and emphasizing the "fi" where is the science in Mass Effect? I don't really remember much science to being with, but what little there was seems to be trashed for "artistic freedom".

Watch this.

I have seen that. He talks about four or five parts of Mass Effect IIRC. Cloaking, Space Travel, Space Civilization, Space Communication and Dark Energy/Negative Matter I believe.

That really isn't anything special those issues are expected to be dealt with just like wearing armor/defense in battle and protecting yourself in a vaccuum. If anything that discredits BioWare even more. They are canceling out the "little" things in favor of artistic freedom. How can we expect them to deal with other scientific issues?

Thing is that Bioware is not trying to make the greatest sci-fi ever, but the greatest experience ever.

[StephanieBengal]

I don't get it, this is what people complain about now?

[CroGamer002]

StephanieBengal wrote...

I don't get it, this is what people complain about now?

That's BSN for ya.

[goofyomnivore]

Thing is that Bioware is not trying to make the greatest sci-fi ever, but the greatest experience ever.

No that is the issue some have. They aren't making sci-fi at all. It is fantasy like Star Wars. I enjoy both personally and don't really care. But let's not kid ourselves Mass Effect isn't sci-fi. It could of been but they went a different direction.

I'm going to enjoy the game no matter what but consistency would be nice.

Modifié par strive, 28 décembre 2011 - 11:15 .

[aridor1570]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

LGTX wrote...

There IS no batarian space in ME3, afaik. Weren't they almost completely harvested before the Reapers invaded Earth?

I honestly don't understand why people think "Oh look a cannibal that must mean the Batarians have been exterminated" (sorry for the sarcasm)

If that were true then you got to look at another example does that mean other huskified species have been annihilated like the Asari, Krogan, Turian, or better yet Human? No seriously I really don't understand why people say that. I could be wrong be we have to wait and play ME3 to be sure.

The Alpha relay is in Batarian space, the Reapers were heading to the Alpha relay, this sums it up, really.

[eyesofastorm]

Il Divo wrote...

eyesofastorm wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Seriously Terror. Deal with it.

I'm not big on the breathing masks either, but they aren't a big deal to me.  This what you say here Priestly is kind of a big deal... you guys have turned into complete douchebags.  You're like the freaks and geeks in middle school that went away for the summer and your skin cleared up or you grew some epic boobs and now you are the cool kids and can't be bothered with this geeky stuff.  Only that's not true.  You are actually nowhere near as cool as you used to be, but for some reason you guys act like you're tha bomb now.  Get over yourselves before everyone else does.  

I'm with Bioware on this one. Respect is a two-way street, in my book. The opening post was far from an exercise in politeness. There are plenty of ways to express yourself effectively. Ranting is really not one of them.

If Priestly's response was isolated, I'd agree with you, but I've seen it become a prevailing attitude.  

[CroGamer002]

strive wrote...

No that is the issue some have. They aren't making sci-fi at all. It is fantasy like Star Wars. I enjoy both personally and don't really care. But let's not kid ourselves Mass Effect isn't sci-fi. It could of been but they went a different direction.

Mass Effect and Star Wars are still sci-fi.

[Merci357]

If a game has the "hide helmet" option, I use it. Might not be realistic, but that's why I prefer fantasy/science fiction games, and not simulations. It doesn't hurt my personal immersion at all.

That said, those breather masks are right in the middle - I don't like them, since I prefer no helmets. And those who prefer a bit more realism don't like them either. So, in my view, it's a strange design decision, but in all honesty, such a minor one I don't really care about.

[Izhalezan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Laser swords can actually work in real life.

Very impractical laser swords, yeah.

One step at a time.

[goofyomnivore]

Mass Effect and Star Wars are still sci-fi.

Umm Star Wars isn't traditional sci-fi and widely believed so as not being Sci-Fi. You may want to look up the genre definition of Sci-Fi

Modifié par strive, 28 décembre 2011 - 11:18 .

[felipejiraya]

Since we're talking Star Wars, at least the breathers from ME aren't too farfetched than the used on Episode 1.

[Mazder]

eyesofastorm wrote...

If Priestly's response was isolated, I'd agree with you, but I've seen it become a prevailing attitude.  

To be perfectly honest if it were Priestly only that represented the Moderator team of Bioware I would class this forum as the same level of /b/.
His attitude as I have seen it is not a very supportive one and he seemingly just closes things or shouts them down rather than addressing them and coming to some sort of conclusion that actually leaves both parties feeling fullfilled at all.

[naledgeborn]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Actually, I think that this is a more logical thing to complain about than almost anything people have been whining about so far.

That's because you have nothing to complain about. Mass Effect 3 is turning out great for you and others. Same can't be said for the rest

[Random citizen]

Mesina2 wrote...

strive wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

strive wrote...

To everyone saying it is "sci-fi" and emphasizing the "fi" where is the science in Mass Effect? I don't really remember much science to being with, but what little there was seems to be trashed for "artistic freedom".

Watch this.

I have seen that. He talks about four or five parts of Mass Effect IIRC. Cloaking, Space Travel, Space Civilization, Space Communication and Dark Energy/Negative Matter I believe.

That really isn't anything special those issues are expected to be dealt with just like wearing armor/defense in battle and protecting yourself in a vaccuum. If anything that discredits BioWare even more. They are canceling out the "little" things in favor of artistic freedom. How can we expect them to deal with other scientific issues?

Thing is that Bioware is not trying to make the greatest sci-fi ever, but the greatest experience ever.

If they think they can pull that of, Bioware should perhaps try to focus on not only making greatest sci-fi space opera ever, but also the greatest experience ever... :innocent:

[Heavensrun]

LTiberious wrote...

Heavensrun wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

LTiberious wrote...

Why the only mission from which i remember Breathing masks was Legions Loyalty Mission?

Collector ship, LotSB, Tali's loyalty, the last cutscene in the Reaper IFF, a bunch of side missions. All of these had breathing masks (depending on who you brought, of course).

  And, it is worth mentioning, none of those took place in vacuum.

Collector Ship, Reaper IFF (still dont believe they had masks there) and Legions Loyalty mission (100%)

Vaccum! 

(sigh)  The collectors fly.  Using wings.  Wings require a medium to push against.  There's no reason to think there was no atmosphere.  There was certainly artificial gravity, as evidenced by the piles of bodies that stuck firmly to the ground.

The Reaper had atmosphere, the researchers inside had been living there, you go in through an airlock in the first place.

And in Legions loyalty mission, you can SEE the atmosphere.  (ironically, in that locale there -isn't- gravity, but the atmosphere is evident, particularly when you get to the window where you look out at the geth mainframe, and things fade out into the distance.  If there was no atmosphere in the station, you would be able to see all the way to the other side of the station.  Not to mention the fact that the geth mainframes would -cook- if they didn't have a heat transfer medium to carry heat away from the circuits.

There is no reason to assume that -any- of those situations involved being in vacuum, and the fact that your squadmates run around those environments without space suits is a good reason to assume that they -didn't-.

There's no evidence