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[Rawgrim]

Yes. And sometimes they make it clear that they are Bi as well. Isabela does it. anders too, i belive.

[SinnSly]

I'd like to see ones where there are gayy characters, I mean they done it with DAO and ME(2), I found it frustrating that I couldn't romance Ashley, Morrigan, Tali etc

[Rawgrim]

It doesn`t really matter what sexuallity the love interests have. As long as not all of them are bisexuall.

[The dead fish]

What's wrong, with gays, bi and straight ?

You are saying, " but in the past, we had less LI ", but we aren't in the past anymore, and Bioware could totally fix that.

So, I don't want to see anymore this excuse, we know that it has changed today.

And what the hell are you talking about replayability ? That's the same with this system too, since you have to create another gender character to have a romance with a character that you like but you can't have with your first character.

if I want a romance with Garrus, I know attracted to women, according to his identity, I simply decide to create a femshep and respect what he is. Why do people want to jump on anything that moves ?

If a woman is gay, she is gay (even the most beautiful for me, most badass or whatever you want ) and I create a female character, if I want to create a love affair with her. Why is it so difficult to meet and respect that ? This is part of the interest of the story, to know what they dislike or like, or are indifferent to, what they are, by which and who they are attracted or are not attracted.

Bioware is driven to tell us, we will allow you to customize, but according to their identity. Okays, so more identity. So why destroy their sexuality since you want more idendity ? sexuality is a part of human identity.

Also, the result was disastrous in DA2, it did not convince me. I felt them cheapen, completely sterile romances that do not recognize the character's desire and not even my gender. No, he doesn't know who I am, just a machine that serve my desire.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:18 .

[jlb524]

Rawgrim wrote...
Yes. And sometimes they make it clear that they are Bi as well. Isabela does it. anders too, i belive.

Isabela definitely...no matter if you are playing a male or female it's obvious.

Anders is conditional...you have to be playing a male and you have to be nice to him in the first conversation.

Was it okay the way DA:O did it?  I mean, there were options listed that were obvious m/m flirts with Zevran or f/f flirts with Leliana...is that really different?

Sylvianus wrote...
What's wrong, with gays, bi and straight ? 

They won't do gay only LIs.

Everyone arguing for this assumes that's an option on the plate but it's not.

So what you are really arguing for (even if you don't realize it) is straight and bisexual LIs which privileges those that play heterosexual characters b/c they will always have more options.   I don't think that's fair.

It's no different than BG2 privileging heterosexual males over heterosexual females by giving them 3 options vs. 1 option.

Modifié par jlb524, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:22 .

[Ryzaki]

SinnSly wrote...

I'd like to see ones where there are gayy characters, I mean they done it with DAO and ME(2), I found it frustrating that I couldn't romance Ashley, Morrigan, Tali etc

...there were no gay characters in DAO or ME/ME2. There were *bi* characters but no gay ones.

[Rawgrim]

jlb524 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...
Yes. And sometimes they make it clear that they are Bi as well. Isabela does it. anders too, i belive.

Isabela definitely...no matter if you are playing a male or female it's obvious.

Anders is conditional...you have to be playing a male and you have to be nice to him in the first conversation.

Was it okay the way DA:O did it?  I mean, there were options listed that were obvious m/m flirts with Zevran or f/f flirts with Leliana...is that really different?

I actually didn`t notice that bit with Zevran. I killed him in my first playthrough (figured he was a badguy), and in my second playthrough I was playing a rogue, so I didn`t talk to him much. I know about it now though, but for me its not a bother since I never use the fellow. No room in my party.

[LiquidGrape]

jlb524 wrote...

How is everyone's DA2 bisexuality in your face?

Because of the heart icons?

But it's so blatantly a bisexual heart. And that totally breaks my misapplied pablum immersion, yo.

Seriously though, I can't believe we're still having this discussion.
Four bisexuals in one city isn't unrealistic. If anything we should see a lot more of the critters running around. Also, if we're going to get crassly sociological about it, doesn't it actually make perfect sense that people of a similar sexual disposition end up sharing venues and acquaintances? I think most people find a certain measure of comfort in that kind of familiarity, so it's only natural to seek it out.

And frankly, it's nobody's place to whine about realism in a world wherein people slay dragons with pointy sticks, giant stone men stroll around casually like it ain't no thang and Cullen has somehow received a promotion.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:25 .

[yusuf060297]

jlb524 wrote...
Was it okay the way DA:O did it?  I mean, there were options listed that were obvious m/m flirts with Zevran or f/f flirts with Leliana...is that really different?

i liked it more how da:o did it and how me3 will do it, i dont really like it that in da2 the characters dont recognize your gender when its coming to the romance part

[SinnSly]

Ryzaki wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

I'd like to see ones where there are gayy characters, I mean they done it with DAO and ME(2), I found it frustrating that I couldn't romance Ashley, Morrigan, Tali etc

...there were no gay characters in DAO or ME/ME2. There were *bi* characters but no gay ones.

Sorry I put that badly, I mean I wish there were gay charatcers because they've already put straight ones in etc

I didn't see my mistake sorry! x.X

[Ryzaki]

SinnSly wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

I'd like to see ones where there are gayy characters, I mean they done it with DAO and ME(2), I found it frustrating that I couldn't romance Ashley, Morrigan, Tali etc

...there were no gay characters in DAO or ME/ME2. There were *bi* characters but no gay ones.

Sorry I put that badly, I mean I wish there were gay charatcers because they've already put straight ones in etc

I didn't see my mistake sorry! x.X

Oh there's no problem.

Hopefully the lack of gay characters will be fixed in a future bioware game.

[jlb524]

yusuf060297 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
Was it okay the way DA:O did it?  I mean, there were options listed that were obvious m/m flirts with Zevran or f/f flirts with Leliana...is that really different?

i liked it more how da:o did it and how me3 will do it, i dont really like it that in da2 the characters dont recognize your gender when its coming to the romance part

They do...the romances in DA2 differ a bit based on gender.

Rawgrim wrote...

I actually didn`t notice that bit with Zevran. I killed him in my first playthrough (figured he was a badguy), and in my second playthrough I was playing a rogue, so I didn`t talk to him much. I know about it now though, but for me its not a bother since I never use the fellow. No room in my party.

So don't use/talk to Fenris/Anders.

Actually, you don't even have to recruit Fenris.

Modifié par jlb524, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:28 .

[SinnSly]

[quote]Ineffable Igor wrote..
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(MerrillxCarver = cutest thing in the history of ever)
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Merrill...I never really thought the Dalish would go for a same sex relationship....mainly for the whole having to procreate to carry on the lineage of the people.

and  to a Merrill and Carver hookup.....I think that's why I usually stay away from romancing her.....I want her for my brother! They'd be so totally cute.....poor Carver when he finds out that Merrill ain't as sweet and innocent as she seems. [/quote]

I disagree with you both there, I cannot stand MerrilXCarver, she is always my Marian's second half, Marian and Merrill are just the most adorable couple ever, hands down

Carver just irritates me and whines about everything, if there was an option to whack him with my staff I would do it!! (Thus I always kill him of...)

[Rawgrim]

LiquidGrape wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

How is everyone's DA2 bisexuality in your face?

Because of the heart icons?

But it's so blatantly a bisexual heart. And that totally breaks my misapplied pablum immersion, yo.

Seriously though, I can't believe we're still having this discussion.
Four bisexuals in one city isn't unrealistic. If anything we should see a lot more of the critters running around. Also, if we're going to get crassly sociological about it, doesn't it actually make perfect sense that people of a similar sexual disposition end up sharing venues and acquaintances? I think most people find a certain measure of comfort in that kind of familiarity, so it's only natural to seek it out.

And frankly, it's nobody's place to whine about realism in a world wherein people slay dragons with pointy sticks, giant stone men stroll around casually like it ain't no thang and Cullen has somehow received a promotion.

In the DA world dragons and stone giants excists. its in the lore, ergo in that setting its realistic. But having Darth Vader show up in Kirkwall would be unrealistic.

[Dave of Canada]

If they keep making everybody bisexual, I'd like to see some gender restricted content for the romances. DA2 seems to have made the romances bland enough that it fits into every mold, similar to how Leliana and Zevran had nothing really "special" about them but Morrigan and Alistair did.

[SinnSly]

Ryzaki wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

I'd like to see ones where there are gayy characters, I mean they done it with DAO and ME(2), I found it frustrating that I couldn't romance Ashley, Morrigan, Tali etc

...there were no gay characters in DAO or ME/ME2. There were *bi* characters but no gay ones.

Sorry I put that badly, I mean I wish there were gay charatcers because they've already put straight ones in etc

I didn't see my mistake sorry! x.X

Oh there's no problem.

Hopefully the lack of gay characters will be fixed in a future bioware game.

Yeahh, I mean I don't mind in ME now, I have Liara and I hoped in DA 3 we could continue Hawke but no, new character D: I'd love to see how Hawke and his/her lover fight to stay together and alive and I wanna continue seeing the adorable Merrill~

[jlb524]

Dave of Canada wrote...
If they keep making everybody bisexual, I'd like to see some gender restricted content for the romances. DA2 seems to have made the romances bland enough that it fits into every mold, similar to how Leliana and Zevran had nothing really "special" about them but Morrigan and Alistair did.

Morrigan and Alistair just had more content at the end b/c they were more plot-important.

Morrigan's romance still fits with a female...I've done it.

liesandpropaganda wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...


In the DA world dragons and stone giants excists. its in the lore, ergo in that setting its realistic. But having Darth Vader show up in Kirkwall would be unrealistic.

here's the moment when we find out Vader was bisexual

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Modifié par jlb524, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:31 .

[LiquidGrape]

Rawgrim wrote...

In the DA world dragons and stone giants excists. its in the lore, ergo in that setting its realistic. But having Darth Vader show up in Kirkwall would be unrealistic.

You're not making any sense.
Obviously bisexuality is part of the lore as well, considering we've encountered characters who are, in fact, bisexual.

Although if the point you were trying to make is that Vader is secretly bisexual, I would buy that. He and Obi-Wan had some serious chemistry.

P.S
Obviously it goes without saying that I refer to Alec Guinness' Obi-Wan from the original trilogy.
D.S

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:35 .

[Laamaa]

liesandpropaganda wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...


In the DA world dragons and stone giants excists. its in the lore, ergo in that setting its realistic. But having Darth Vader show up in Kirkwall would be unrealistic.

here's the moment when we find out Vader was bisexual

Now that would be most  interesting for sure 

[alex90c]

Filament wrote...

I really don't care anymore. Someone give me a cactus romance.

Make it happen Bioware. Make it happen.

[Ryzaki]

And in the DA verse most don't really see it as a big deal that someone's sleeping with the same gender. Heck it looks like it might be less looked down upon then sleeping with someone outside your race. So it wouldn't be surprising to me that there would be more people willing to be open about sleeping with their own gender.

Why so many people are willing to shack up with a dwarf though will always baffle me.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[LinksOcarina]

Dave of Canada wrote...

If they keep making everybody bisexual, I'd like to see some gender restricted content for the romances. DA2 seems to have made the romances bland enough that it fits into every mold, similar to how Leliana and Zevran had nothing really "special" about them but Morrigan and Alistair did.

Funny, the Zevran romance had the most dynamics to it since it actually changed his character for the better, unlike the Alistar romance which, while it had more  implications to the Origins plot, didn't do much in shaping how Alistar behaved (instead it was a personal quest that did that.)