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[argonian persona]

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Yes you did you said this was there first big mega blockbuster and even at that this still does not compete with call of duty over 3 platforms skyrim still hasn't sold as much as MW3 on 360 alone.  Ya know what answer me this one question, what did skyrim change?  What is so revolutionary about it that there is now a skyrim crowd like you say.  

Because it's their first megablockbuster. This one already sold in 50 days more than Oblivion in 5 years or fallout 3 in 4. 

Modern Warfare 3 is going to be the best selling game  in this generation, I'm not questioning that. But Skyrim is going to be top3.

There's nothing revolutionary about Call of Duty, and there is a Call of Dury crowd. 

But, there are a lots of things that make Skyrim different from 99% of games: Gives freedom. It gives the player a f***ing country. That, in the time of game worlds being smaller than my room, it's something. 

And I'm done with this argument. I get it, you hate it, but try to think a bit leaving all that anger behind. 

I genuinely have no idea how to make this any clearer, skyrim WILL NOT be in the top 3 games sold ths generation.  CoD, Halo, GTA, GoW will make up that list skyrim will NOT  be on it, this is an asinine argument on your part where are getting this data that supposedly points to skyrim selling 20 million units?  It is not theire first major blockbuster, it's sold more than Oblivion and Fallout but those were not indie games are you even reading my posts?  It doesn't matter that it outsold oblivion in it's first 50 days pretty much everyone who's gonna get this game already has it, it does not have the legs to get to the sales numbers you are suggesting it will get too.  Freedom is a total bull**** argument tons of games give you freedom even you admit the only thing it does differently is give you a bigger map.  How funny that it's now at the point where you're grasping at straws to try to come up with an argument you're done, the only thing I'm getting mad at here is your stupidity and your unbelievable thick headedness providing statistics you have no data to back up.  First you say sales=impact, than buzz=impact, now you're saying no one's ever played Fallout or Oblivion and the fact that just because skyrim has more hype than those 2 games it's going to revolutionize gaming as we know it?  This is absurd, you can't even give one feature of this game that is truly revolutionary other than the over sized map but that was in Oblivion and Fallout but than you refuse to acknowledge that those games actually sold and were not ignored like you claim they were.  Here's a word of advice for you SHIPPED does not mean SOLD, you're making yourself look dumber than the OP.  

^^

"I hate Skyrim...I don't care what objective statistics and empirical evidence says, it will LOSE because it SUCKS."

Has he provided statistical evidence to support the claim that it will sell 20 million units?  NO.  Does he continue to claim that skyrim is evidently the first bethesda game to actually be a big blockbuster when I have provided data that backs the claim that Oblivion and Fallout have both sold blockbuster numbers?  YES.  Has he changed his argument every time I offered a rebuttal and then refused to see the facts?  Again YES.  Are you an objective fanboy who worships the very word skyrim who has also ignored every argument I have ever presented to you.  YES.  But now, NOW you reply to my post prove your blind fan boyism right when I say I'm done, I don't give a sh!t you're totally blind to any criticism skyrim recieves and you insist on living under the delusion that people accept the fact that we are in a post skyrim era, as I have told you previously YOU ARE A JOKE!

Blind fanboyism? The irony!

[N7Raider]

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Yes you did you said this was there first big mega blockbuster and even at that this still does not compete with call of duty over 3 platforms skyrim still hasn't sold as much as MW3 on 360 alone.  Ya know what answer me this one question, what did skyrim change?  What is so revolutionary about it that there is now a skyrim crowd like you say.  

Because it's their first megablockbuster. This one already sold in 50 days more than Oblivion in 5 years or fallout 3 in 4. 

Modern Warfare 3 is going to be the best selling game  in this generation, I'm not questioning that. But Skyrim is going to be top3.

There's nothing revolutionary about Call of Duty, and there is a Call of Dury crowd. 

But, there are a lots of things that make Skyrim different from 99% of games: Gives freedom. It gives the player a f***ing country. That, in the time of game worlds being smaller than my room, it's something. 

And I'm done with this argument. I get it, you hate it, but try to think a bit leaving all that anger behind. 

I genuinely have no idea how to make this any clearer, skyrim WILL NOT be in the top 3 games sold ths generation.  CoD, Halo, GTA, GoW will make up that list skyrim will NOT  be on it, this is an asinine argument on your part where are getting this data that supposedly points to skyrim selling 20 million units?  It is not theire first major blockbuster, it's sold more than Oblivion and Fallout but those were not indie games are you even reading my posts?  It doesn't matter that it outsold oblivion in it's first 50 days pretty much everyone who's gonna get this game already has it, it does not have the legs to get to the sales numbers you are suggesting it will get too.  Freedom is a total bull**** argument tons of games give you freedom even you admit the only thing it does differently is give you a bigger map.  How funny that it's now at the point where you're grasping at straws to try to come up with an argument you're done, the only thing I'm getting mad at here is your stupidity and your unbelievable thick headedness providing statistics you have no data to back up.  First you say sales=impact, than buzz=impact, now you're saying no one's ever played Fallout or Oblivion and the fact that just because skyrim has more hype than those 2 games it's going to revolutionize gaming as we know it?  This is absurd, you can't even give one feature of this game that is truly revolutionary other than the over sized map but that was in Oblivion and Fallout but than you refuse to acknowledge that those games actually sold and were not ignored like you claim they were.  Here's a word of advice for you SHIPPED does not mean SOLD, you're making yourself look dumber than the OP.  

^^

"I hate Skyrim...I don't care what objective statistics and empirical evidence says, it will LOSE because it SUCKS."

Has he provided statistical evidence to support the claim that it will sell 20 million units?  NO.  Does he continue to claim that skyrim is evidently the first bethesda game to actually be a big blockbuster when I have provided data that backs the claim that Oblivion and Fallout have both sold blockbuster numbers?  YES.  Has he changed his argument every time I offered a rebuttal and then refused to see the facts?  Again YES.  Are you an objective fanboy who worships the very word skyrim who has also ignored every argument I have ever presented to you.  YES.  But now, NOW you reply to my post prove your blind fan boyism right when I say I'm done, I don't give a sh!t you're totally blind to any criticism skyrim recieves and you insist on living under the delusion that people accept the fact that we are in a post skyrim era, as I have told you previously YOU ARE A JOKE!

Blind fanboyism? The irony!

I know right!  You would know all about irony wouldn't you?  Something about never taking something at face value.  But once again at least I offered rebuttals to your pointless cynicism, rebuttals that you blissfully ignored.  Now the question is why?

Modifié par N7Raider, 02 janvier 2012 - 04:14 .

[argonian persona]

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Yes you did you said this was there first big mega blockbuster and even at that this still does not compete with call of duty over 3 platforms skyrim still hasn't sold as much as MW3 on 360 alone.  Ya know what answer me this one question, what did skyrim change?  What is so revolutionary about it that there is now a skyrim crowd like you say.  

Because it's their first megablockbuster. This one already sold in 50 days more than Oblivion in 5 years or fallout 3 in 4. 

Modern Warfare 3 is going to be the best selling game  in this generation, I'm not questioning that. But Skyrim is going to be top3.

There's nothing revolutionary about Call of Duty, and there is a Call of Dury crowd. 

But, there are a lots of things that make Skyrim different from 99% of games: Gives freedom. It gives the player a f***ing country. That, in the time of game worlds being smaller than my room, it's something. 

And I'm done with this argument. I get it, you hate it, but try to think a bit leaving all that anger behind. 

I genuinely have no idea how to make this any clearer, skyrim WILL NOT be in the top 3 games sold ths generation.  CoD, Halo, GTA, GoW will make up that list skyrim will NOT  be on it, this is an asinine argument on your part where are getting this data that supposedly points to skyrim selling 20 million units?  It is not theire first major blockbuster, it's sold more than Oblivion and Fallout but those were not indie games are you even reading my posts?  It doesn't matter that it outsold oblivion in it's first 50 days pretty much everyone who's gonna get this game already has it, it does not have the legs to get to the sales numbers you are suggesting it will get too.  Freedom is a total bull**** argument tons of games give you freedom even you admit the only thing it does differently is give you a bigger map.  How funny that it's now at the point where you're grasping at straws to try to come up with an argument you're done, the only thing I'm getting mad at here is your stupidity and your unbelievable thick headedness providing statistics you have no data to back up.  First you say sales=impact, than buzz=impact, now you're saying no one's ever played Fallout or Oblivion and the fact that just because skyrim has more hype than those 2 games it's going to revolutionize gaming as we know it?  This is absurd, you can't even give one feature of this game that is truly revolutionary other than the over sized map but that was in Oblivion and Fallout but than you refuse to acknowledge that those games actually sold and were not ignored like you claim they were.  Here's a word of advice for you SHIPPED does not mean SOLD, you're making yourself look dumber than the OP.  

^^

"I hate Skyrim...I don't care what objective statistics and empirical evidence says, it will LOSE because it SUCKS."

Has he provided statistical evidence to support the claim that it will sell 20 million units?  NO.  Does he continue to claim that skyrim is evidently the first bethesda game to actually be a big blockbuster when I have provided data that backs the claim that Oblivion and Fallout have both sold blockbuster numbers?  YES.  Has he changed his argument every time I offered a rebuttal and then refused to see the facts?  Again YES.  Are you an objective fanboy who worships the very word skyrim who has also ignored every argument I have ever presented to you.  YES.  But now, NOW you reply to my post prove your blind fan boyism right when I say I'm done, I don't give a sh!t you're totally blind to any criticism skyrim recieves and you insist on living under the delusion that people accept the fact that we are in a post skyrim era, as I have told you previously YOU ARE A JOKE!

Blind fanboyism? The irony!

I know right!  You would know all about irony wouldn't you?  Something about never taking something at face value.  But once again at least I offered rebuttals to your pointless cynicism, rebuttals that you blissfully ignored.  

You make some good points. I agree with you about bugs...I want them to be reduced in the future. Skyrim isn't a CoD giant...in sales, CoD is king. No question. But Skyrim is changing the game a little. Did you ever play it or watch the trailer or anything on what it is? Just curious.

[N7Raider]

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Yes you did you said this was there first big mega blockbuster and even at that this still does not compete with call of duty over 3 platforms skyrim still hasn't sold as much as MW3 on 360 alone.  Ya know what answer me this one question, what did skyrim change?  What is so revolutionary about it that there is now a skyrim crowd like you say.  

Because it's their first megablockbuster. This one already sold in 50 days more than Oblivion in 5 years or fallout 3 in 4. 

Modern Warfare 3 is going to be the best selling game  in this generation, I'm not questioning that. But Skyrim is going to be top3.

There's nothing revolutionary about Call of Duty, and there is a Call of Dury crowd. 

But, there are a lots of things that make Skyrim different from 99% of games: Gives freedom. It gives the player a f***ing country. That, in the time of game worlds being smaller than my room, it's something. 

And I'm done with this argument. I get it, you hate it, but try to think a bit leaving all that anger behind. 

I genuinely have no idea how to make this any clearer, skyrim WILL NOT be in the top 3 games sold ths generation.  CoD, Halo, GTA, GoW will make up that list skyrim will NOT  be on it, this is an asinine argument on your part where are getting this data that supposedly points to skyrim selling 20 million units?  It is not theire first major blockbuster, it's sold more than Oblivion and Fallout but those were not indie games are you even reading my posts?  It doesn't matter that it outsold oblivion in it's first 50 days pretty much everyone who's gonna get this game already has it, it does not have the legs to get to the sales numbers you are suggesting it will get too.  Freedom is a total bull**** argument tons of games give you freedom even you admit the only thing it does differently is give you a bigger map.  How funny that it's now at the point where you're grasping at straws to try to come up with an argument you're done, the only thing I'm getting mad at here is your stupidity and your unbelievable thick headedness providing statistics you have no data to back up.  First you say sales=impact, than buzz=impact, now you're saying no one's ever played Fallout or Oblivion and the fact that just because skyrim has more hype than those 2 games it's going to revolutionize gaming as we know it?  This is absurd, you can't even give one feature of this game that is truly revolutionary other than the over sized map but that was in Oblivion and Fallout but than you refuse to acknowledge that those games actually sold and were not ignored like you claim they were.  Here's a word of advice for you SHIPPED does not mean SOLD, you're making yourself look dumber than the OP.  

^^

"I hate Skyrim...I don't care what objective statistics and empirical evidence says, it will LOSE because it SUCKS."

Has he provided statistical evidence to support the claim that it will sell 20 million units?  NO.  Does he continue to claim that skyrim is evidently the first bethesda game to actually be a big blockbuster when I have provided data that backs the claim that Oblivion and Fallout have both sold blockbuster numbers?  YES.  Has he changed his argument every time I offered a rebuttal and then refused to see the facts?  Again YES.  Are you an objective fanboy who worships the very word skyrim who has also ignored every argument I have ever presented to you.  YES.  But now, NOW you reply to my post prove your blind fan boyism right when I say I'm done, I don't give a sh!t you're totally blind to any criticism skyrim recieves and you insist on living under the delusion that people accept the fact that we are in a post skyrim era, as I have told you previously YOU ARE A JOKE!

Blind fanboyism? The irony!

I know right!  You would know all about irony wouldn't you?  Something about never taking something at face value.  But once again at least I offered rebuttals to your pointless cynicism, rebuttals that you blissfully ignored.  

You make some good points. I agree with you about bugs...I want them to be reduced in the future. Skyrim isn't a CoD giant...in sales, CoD is king. No question. But Skyrim is changing the game a little. Did you ever play it or watch the trailer or anything on what it is? Just curious.

Damn it THANK YOU for finally acknowledging my arguments, and yes I rented it played it for about 6-8 hours found the gameplay to be uninspired which is mostly why I don't like it, that and the lack of narrative.

[argonian persona]

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Yes you did you said this was there first big mega blockbuster and even at that this still does not compete with call of duty over 3 platforms skyrim still hasn't sold as much as MW3 on 360 alone.  Ya know what answer me this one question, what did skyrim change?  What is so revolutionary about it that there is now a skyrim crowd like you say.  

Because it's their first megablockbuster. This one already sold in 50 days more than Oblivion in 5 years or fallout 3 in 4. 

Modern Warfare 3 is going to be the best selling game  in this generation, I'm not questioning that. But Skyrim is going to be top3.

There's nothing revolutionary about Call of Duty, and there is a Call of Dury crowd. 

But, there are a lots of things that make Skyrim different from 99% of games: Gives freedom. It gives the player a f***ing country. That, in the time of game worlds being smaller than my room, it's something. 

And I'm done with this argument. I get it, you hate it, but try to think a bit leaving all that anger behind. 

I genuinely have no idea how to make this any clearer, skyrim WILL NOT be in the top 3 games sold ths generation.  CoD, Halo, GTA, GoW will make up that list skyrim will NOT  be on it, this is an asinine argument on your part where are getting this data that supposedly points to skyrim selling 20 million units?  It is not theire first major blockbuster, it's sold more than Oblivion and Fallout but those were not indie games are you even reading my posts?  It doesn't matter that it outsold oblivion in it's first 50 days pretty much everyone who's gonna get this game already has it, it does not have the legs to get to the sales numbers you are suggesting it will get too.  Freedom is a total bull**** argument tons of games give you freedom even you admit the only thing it does differently is give you a bigger map.  How funny that it's now at the point where you're grasping at straws to try to come up with an argument you're done, the only thing I'm getting mad at here is your stupidity and your unbelievable thick headedness providing statistics you have no data to back up.  First you say sales=impact, than buzz=impact, now you're saying no one's ever played Fallout or Oblivion and the fact that just because skyrim has more hype than those 2 games it's going to revolutionize gaming as we know it?  This is absurd, you can't even give one feature of this game that is truly revolutionary other than the over sized map but that was in Oblivion and Fallout but than you refuse to acknowledge that those games actually sold and were not ignored like you claim they were.  Here's a word of advice for you SHIPPED does not mean SOLD, you're making yourself look dumber than the OP.  

^^

"I hate Skyrim...I don't care what objective statistics and empirical evidence says, it will LOSE because it SUCKS."

Has he provided statistical evidence to support the claim that it will sell 20 million units?  NO.  Does he continue to claim that skyrim is evidently the first bethesda game to actually be a big blockbuster when I have provided data that backs the claim that Oblivion and Fallout have both sold blockbuster numbers?  YES.  Has he changed his argument every time I offered a rebuttal and then refused to see the facts?  Again YES.  Are you an objective fanboy who worships the very word skyrim who has also ignored every argument I have ever presented to you.  YES.  But now, NOW you reply to my post prove your blind fan boyism right when I say I'm done, I don't give a sh!t you're totally blind to any criticism skyrim recieves and you insist on living under the delusion that people accept the fact that we are in a post skyrim era, as I have told you previously YOU ARE A JOKE!

Blind fanboyism? The irony!

I know right!  You would know all about irony wouldn't you?  Something about never taking something at face value.  But once again at least I offered rebuttals to your pointless cynicism, rebuttals that you blissfully ignored.  

You make some good points. I agree with you about bugs...I want them to be reduced in the future. Skyrim isn't a CoD giant...in sales, CoD is king. No question. But Skyrim is changing the game a little. Did you ever play it or watch the trailer or anything on what it is? Just curious.

Damn it THANK YOU for finally acknowledging my arguments, and yes I rented it played it for about 6-8 hours found the gameplay to be uninspired which is mostly why I don't like it, that and the lack of narrative.

I'd like to see narrative get better, too. There was massive improvement over Oblivion and it'd be nice to see that same type of massive improvement again in the next one. As far as narrative they'll never be as good as BioWare.

I'll settle with massive improvement each installation for TES.

Modifié par argonian persona, 02 janvier 2012 - 04:22 .

[Epic777]

Skyrim is a good game but not revolutionary or evolutionary enough to have its own era. I don't think will influence gaming like GTA III did (prime example).

[Epic777]

jreezy wrote...

Epic777 wrote...
I don't think will influence gaming like GTA III did (prime example).

Take notes OP, if a game did deserve an "era" dedicated to it, this is it.

Also see the orginal Rainbow Six <- father of more realistic shooters

[argonian persona]

jreezy wrote...

Epic777 wrote...
I don't think will influence gaming like GTA III did (prime example).

Take notes OP, if a game did deserve an "era" dedicated to it, this is it.

I'll reserve for now. The era has just begun.

Skyrim is already influencing DA3's development. Just go to the DA2 forums and see the topics about it. The Drs. of BioWare were questioned about Skyrim and what they are going to do with DA3 now because of Skyrim. There's articles in the threads, too, for an interesting read.

In short, looks like DA3 is going to be much, much more open-world.

[didymos1120]

jreezy wrote...

Epic777 wrote...
I don't think will influence gaming like GTA III did (prime example).

Take notes OP, if a game did deserve an "era" dedicated to it, this is it.

The original Doom. We're still in that era, I'd say.

[argonian persona]

http://m.wired.com/g...2/dragon-age-3/

Sorry I don't have it linked, but here is an article that is interesting. Looks like Skyrim is directly having severe impact on DA3 development.

[b0b_themagichobo]

argonian persona wrote...

I'd like to see narrative get better, too. There was massive improvement over Oblivion and it'd be nice to see that same type of massive improvement again in the next one. As far as narrative they'll never be as good as BioWare.

I'll settle with massive improvement each installation for TES.

It's not so much that Skyrim was a massive improvement in terms of narrative.  Oblivion being a massive backslide in terms of narrative is closer to the truth.  Morrowind destroys both games in this aspect.

[Praetor Knight]

argonian persona wrote...

http://m.wired.com/g...2/dragon-age-3/

Sorry I don't have it linked, but here is an article that is interesting. Looks like Skyrim is directly having severe impact on DA3 development.

I'm on board for realistic beards. If that's what you wanted to point out from that article...





And I agree with the idea that this is more the Post-Doom era too.

[Epic777]

argonian persona wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Epic777 wrote...
I don't think will influence gaming like GTA III did (prime example).

Take notes OP, if a game did deserve an "era" dedicated to it, this is it.

I'll reserve for now. The era has just begun.

Skyrim is already influencing DA3's development. Just go to the DA2 forums and see the topics about it. The Drs. of BioWare were questioned about Skyrim and what they are going to do with DA3 now because of Skyrim. There's articles in the threads, too, for an interesting read.

In short, looks like DA3 is going to be much, much more open-world.

The original DAO copied Final Fantasy XII's 'gambit system' but we are definatly not in the era of Final Fantasy XII. Skyrim was clearly influenced by Bioshock 2. Bioshock has been a critical and commerical success but we are not in the era of Bioshock? No. I will stress I don't hate Skyrim I actually like it but I do not see it influencing gaming to the degree you state.

[shepskisaac]

didymos1120 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Epic777 wrote...
I don't think will influence gaming like GTA III did (prime example).

Take notes OP, if a game did deserve an "era" dedicated to it, this is it.

The original Doom. We're still in that era, I'd say.

Yep. Another example: Tomb Raider - basically created modern action adventure genre.

[Inspectre]

Gatt9 wrote...

@DragonXIX,  I really expected better of you than to cherry-pick one season,  cherry-pick a short list of 20 games,  and try to use it as a counter-arguement.  Reality is,  if you go get the list of everything released in 2011 you get a completely different output.

You're totally right.
7 of 20 = 35%

For the 360:
99 shooters+dlc vs 215 Platformer, Realtime Strategy, Flight, Puzzle, Role-Playing, Party, Racing and Fighting games+dlc. = 31.5%

Epic777 wrote...
The original DAO copied Final Fantasy XII's 'gambit system' but we are definatly not in the era of Final Fantasy
XII. Skyrim was clearly influenced by Bioshock 2. Bioshock has been a critical and commerical success but we are not in the era of Bioshock? No. I will stress I don't hate Skyrim I actually like it but I do not see it influencing gaming to the degree you state.

Bioshock 2 has only sold 3.24m.  Sales should not be a mesure of greatness, but it is to publishers and most developers.

Modifié par Dragon XIX, 02 janvier 2012 - 11:01 .

[Epic777]

Dragon XIX wrote...

@N7Raider

... you okay?

Gatt9 wrote...

@DragonXIX,  I really expected better of you than to cherry-pick one season,  cherry-pick a short list of 20 games,  and try to use it as a counter-arguement.  Reality is,  if you go get the list of everything released in 2011 you get a completely different output.

You're totally right.
7 of 20 = 35%

For the 360:
99 shooters+dlc vs 215 Platformer, Realtime Strategy, Flight, Puzzle, Role-Playing, Party, Racing and Fighting games+dlc. = 31.5%

Epic777 wrote...
The original DAO copied Final Fantasy XII's 'gambit system' but we are definatly not in the era of Final Fantasy
XII. Skyrim was clearly influenced by Bioshock 2. Bioshock has been a critical and commerical success but we are not in the era of Bioshock? No. I will stress I don't hate Skyrim I actually like it but I do not see it influencing gaming to the degree you state.

Bioshock 2 has only sold 3.24m.  Sales should not be a mesure of greatness, but it is to publishers and most developers.

Should greatness be measured it be strictly by critical praise? I will let you be the judge. 3.24m is nothing to sneeze. Bioshock has sold around 4m (2007-2010). 

Also with publishers sales has to be an indicator when your job is to make money.

I will make myself clear - the whole point I wanted to make was skyrim had some bioshock influences, mainly from the the second game. Despite this we are not in the era of BIoshock which is a critical and commerically successfully series. 

[TheMakoMaster]

[emanziboy]

Alex_SM wrote...

Modern Warfare 3 is going to be the best selling game  in this generation, I'm not questioning that. But Skyrim is going to be top3.

There are a number of things you are saying that are wrong, but I can't prove them wrong because it's largely a matter of opinion. However, I can easily prove this sentence wrong just by using raw numbers.

1. MW3 will NOT be the best selling game this generation
2. Skyrim will not be one of the top 3 selling games this generation.

As impressive as MW3's sales are it is not nor will it ever be the best this generation. Wii Sports has sold almost 80 million copies, making it not only the best selling game of this generation, but of all time. It has nearly doubled its next closest competitor Super Mario Bros.

People seem to forget Wii games when it comes to talking about game sales. Here are Wii games Skyrim will never catch (I'm basing this on VGchartz. Yeah I know these are estimates and not the actual numbers, but even Vgcharts is accurate enough that it's clear Skyrim won't catch them.).

Wii Sports: 79.7 million
Mario Kart Wii: 31.2 million
Wii Sports Resort: 30.5 million
Wii Play: 28.5 million
New Super Mario Bros Wii: 24 million
Wii Fit: 22.7 million
Wii Fit Plus: 20.9 million

Those seven games, plus COD: Black Ops, MW2 and MW3 are 10 games Skyrim, which is at 8.9 million not counting digital sales, will never catch.

Modifié par emanziboy, 02 janvier 2012 - 05:59 .

[firefireblow]

Don't you love how the "hardcore" players ignore the "casual" games? By saying they don't exsist.

[ArkkAngel007]

firefireblow wrote...

Don't you love how the "hardcore" players ignore the "casual" games? By saying they don't exsist.

No kidding.  If you listened around colleges or work places, you'd be hearing Angry Birds or Farmville being talked about.  Face it, with the Wii's success in being installed in every other household, and Apple mainstreaming the tablet and expanding the iPod, this is the era of casual games.  People who never touch video games and scorn them are suddenly playing them and enjoying them.  No, they don't probably consider them true video games, just as many traditional gamers don't, but it's still an important benchmark, miles beyond what Skyrim or any other single game could ever have ambitioned to accomplish.  Oh, and don't forget Pokemon.  Skyrim would love to sell as well as Pokemon.

And last time I checked, that user base is beyond what MW3 or Skyrim caters to.  My significant other's siblings who love Angry Birds and Tetris will go on to love Mario and Pokemon at the very least.  The point is, there is a larger industry and consumer base beyond Skyrim and Mass Effect, even in the RPG department.  This era and stick-measuring business is ridiculous and one of the chief issues with the gaming industry, media, and traditional consumer base that make everyone involved look like children.  

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 02 janvier 2012 - 06:18 .