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[argonian persona]

AlanC9 wrote...

Wasn't combat magic kinda sucky in Morrowind too? Beating things to death with a stick was much more effective. Or better yet, stabbing things to death with a spear, since that ended up getting you more hit points.

I just assumed it was a TES tradition.

Magicka is a little weaker until you reach a higher level, or unless you focus on magicka. Entering the College of Winterhold helps your magicka become more powerful faster. As I guess makes sense.

[AlanC9]

That's better than Morrowind, then. In MW the system works fine early but starts to break down at the higher levels; high enemy HP means that you need to replenish magika too much, plus everything starts having Reflect. You can still win battles, but it's just not as efficient as pulling out the old enchanted Daedric dagger.

[Alamar2078]

I have sunk a lot of time in Skyrim but what I get from that game isn't what I want or expect from ME3 so I don't think Skyrim will have too much impact on ME3. For me Skyrim has been fairly stable with limited bugs [or the plenty of bugs that are there I haven't triggered] so I probably won't tolerate an ME3 that is buggy / unplayable at release.

Note: There's so much stuff in Skyrim that even if they had great stories all over the place it gets watered down by having sooooooo much to do. With ME3 I'm hoping to get so much story & plot that I won't miss wandering around aimlessly in a field picking flowers and catching blue winged butterflies as I do in Skyrim.

[PaulSX]

Although I think Dragon Age Origins is still the best modern role playing game in "post skyrim era", Mass Effect games are vastly different from what you would expect from a RPG in traditional sense, especially mass effect 2, which redefined what immersion means to a video game imo. Mass Effect 3 most likely will be viewed as a noticeable game that successfully mix different genres.

[1136342t54_]

jreezy wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It will be viewed as having:

An actual story.
Characters.

Because Skyrim has none of these.

They are there they just kind of suck or at least seem awesome intially but then get progressively worse. The only real roleplaying you can do is in your head lol. Then again it is a popular way to play Bethesda games.

[JukeFrog]

As much as I love Skyrim, it's really not as great as some ppl are making it out to be:
-The story is bland,as well as the characters.
-The combat is streets behind.
-90% of the enemies in the dungeons are bandits/draugrs.
-No variation in dialogue options, making it difficult to role play.
-Quests are incredibly linear w/ only one end result.

And this is coming from someone who likes Skyrim. You should see what they're saying about the game on the Bethesda forums. Their level of complaints makes BSN look tame.

[best_eva]

argonian persona wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Wasn't combat magic kinda sucky in Morrowind too? Beating things to death with a stick was much more effective. Or better yet, stabbing things to death with a spear, since that ended up getting you more hit points.

I just assumed it was a TES tradition.

Magicka is a little weaker until you reach a higher level, or unless you focus on magicka. Entering the College of Winterhold helps your magicka become more powerful faster. As I guess makes sense.

magicka is a little weaker blah blah blah whah whah whah!  STFU you ******, your game sucks as much as you do!  All you do is beat stuff with a stick in that game admit it your game sucks, I wish you would actually take an arrow to the knee.  

[Bekkael]

JukeFrog wrote...

As much as I love Skyrim, it's really not as great as some ppl are making it out to be:
-The story is bland,as well as the characters.
-The combat is streets behind.
-90% of the enemies in the dungeons are bandits/draugrs.
-No variation in dialogue options, making it difficult to role play.
-Quests are incredibly linear w/ only one end result.

And this is coming from someone who likes Skyrim. You should see what they're saying about the game on the Bethesda forums. Their level of complaints makes BSN look tame.

Wow, might have to check out the Bethesda forums just for kicks.

I liked Skyrim too, and all those things you listed are spot-on, but still not my chief complaint. For my experience, nothing was more miserable than all the frakin' BUGS. I can ignore/forgive lots of things, but not when my game is unplayable due to glitches. 

[argonian persona]

jreezy wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It will be viewed as having:

An actual story.
Characters.

Because Skyrim has none of these.

Skyrim's story is infinitely more interesting than DA2, tbh

[happy_daiz]

^ Thankfully, Ancano didn't go all crazy blood (vampire) mage-turned-freaky-and-infinitely-unnecessary-harvester in the mage questline of Skyrim.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 03 janvier 2012 - 09:41 .

[best_eva]

argonian persona wrote...

jreezy wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It will be viewed as having:

An actual story.
Characters.

Because Skyrim has none of these.

Skyrim's story is infinitely more interesting than DA2, tbh

Skyrim's characters are infinitely more interesting than you, tbh
and you're an idiot if you think skyrim had even a passable story

[happy_daiz]

^ Wow, that was not necessary.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

FLAME WARS ROUND 1: FIGHT!!

[argonian persona]

best_eva wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

jreezy wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It will be viewed as having:

An actual story.
Characters.

Because Skyrim has none of these.

Skyrim's story is infinitely more interesting than DA2, tbh

Skyrim's characters are infinitely more interesting than you, tbh
and you're an idiot if you think skyrim had even a passable story

It's all in perspective, of course, but the gaming media wants a word with you.

[Savber100]

argonian persona wrote...

jreezy wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It will be viewed as having:

An actual story.
Characters.

Because Skyrim has none of these.

Skyrim's story is infinitely more interesting than DA2, tbh

I don't know... 

Skyrim: Fight big bad dragon...... I forgot what else it had for the main quest since you neither really gathered an army, made choices, or did anything besides for finding that Word of Power to bring Alduin down. OH! You made the Blades and... uh, rescued that old geezer.. <_< Some escort missions here, some fetch quests there... Yeah, lets not even get into the Stormcloak vs Blade quests where you just basically hack-n-slash your way through each quest. 

Lets be honest... most of Skyrim's "story" was "walk to area, find something, fight a while" before going back to do more of the same. 

Dragon Age 2 might have an incoherent, poorly-executed plot but at least it was exploring interesting political conflicts between the Qunari and Kirkwall while touching on the theme of templar vs mages etc.


In the end,

DA2: Great premise but horrific presentation vs  Skyrim: Terrible, cliched premise but great presentation 

[argonian persona]

Savber100 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

jreezy wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It will be viewed as having:

An actual story.
Characters.

Because Skyrim has none of these.

Skyrim's story is infinitely more interesting than DA2, tbh

I don't know... 

Skyrim: Fight big bad dragon...... I forgot what else it had for the main quest since you neither really gathered an army, made choices, or did anything besides for finding that Word of Power to bring Alduin down. OH! You made the Blades and... uh, rescued that old geezer.. <_< Some escort missions here, some fetch quests there... Yeah, lets not even get into the Stormcloak vs Blade quests where you just basically hack-n-slash your way through each quest. 

Lets be honest... most of Skyrim's "story" was "walk to area, find something, fight a while" before going back to do more of the same. 

Dragon Age 2 might have an incoherent, poorly-executed plot but at least it was exploring interesting political conflicts between the Qunari and Kirkwall while touching on the theme of templar vs mages etc.


In the end,

DA2: Great premise but horrific presentation vs  Skyrim: Terrible, cliched premise but great presentation 

Did you play Skyrim? I saw no mention of what I consider just as prominent as Alduin.......the political side of it: the Thalmor and the Aldmeri Dominion.

I don't mean this in a mean or confronting way....I think you are a good fellow forumite...you express your opinion and youre polite and make good points.

Modifié par argonian persona, 03 janvier 2012 - 10:00 .

[best_eva]

argonian persona wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

jreezy wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

It will be viewed as having:

An actual story.
Characters.

Because Skyrim has none of these.

Skyrim's story is infinitely more interesting than DA2, tbh

I don't know... 

Skyrim: Fight big bad dragon...... I forgot what else it had for the main quest since you neither really gathered an army, made choices, or did anything besides for finding that Word of Power to bring Alduin down. OH! You made the Blades and... uh, rescued that old geezer.. <_< Some escort missions here, some fetch quests there... Yeah, lets not even get into the Stormcloak vs Blade quests where you just basically hack-n-slash your way through each quest. 

Lets be honest... most of Skyrim's "story" was "walk to area, find something, fight a while" before going back to do more of the same. 

Dragon Age 2 might have an incoherent, poorly-executed plot but at least it was exploring interesting political conflicts between the Qunari and Kirkwall while touching on the theme of templar vs mages etc.


In the end,

DA2: Great premise but horrific presentation vs  Skyrim: Terrible, cliched premise but great presentation 

Did you play Skyrim? I saw no mention of what I consider just as prominent as Alduin.......the political side of it: the Thalmor and the Aldmeri Dominion.

I don't mean this in a mean or confronting way....I think you are a good fellow forumite...you express your opinion and youre polite and make good points.

Oh now you wanna be polite, now you're concerned about manners
HA hypocrite

[AgitatedLemon]

^ Exactly WHAT are you so pissed off at?

[billy the squid]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

^ Exactly WHAT are you so pissed off at?

Someone stole his sweet roll.

[happy_daiz]

billy the squid wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

^ Exactly WHAT are you so pissed off at?

Someone stole his sweet roll.

I took it.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 03 janvier 2012 - 10:17 .