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[AlexXIV]

Skyrim will probably beat ME3 in sales. As Bethesda games always beat Bioware games. But I can already say that Skyrim was ... good, not perfect. I'd still rank ME2 higher than Skyrim. And ME3 hopefully higher than ME2. That tells you how Skyrim will be viewed in the Mass Effect era.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 29 décembre 2011 - 08:26 .

[Starfishsicko]

Depends on who's viewing it. Bethesda fans, Bioware fans, general RPG fans, reviewers, etc.

[mkk316]

I'll take my 40 hour cinematic, story driven decision making game over a 300 hour sandbox anytime. Skyrim is good, but it's a different type of game. And this notion that ME 3 is going pure 3rd person shooter is tired and dumb, find something new to hate on.

[Mx_CN3]

argonian persona wrote...

Paper thin story???

Lol.

It's a million times better than DAII's story.

Problem is.....it isn't a cinematic movie.

Anyways, back on topic....

When ME3 is released, how will it be received??? Will it gain the new fans it wanted while abandoning those who loved the games and watched it die? Or will it fall flat on its face and bomb? I've already heard grumblings similar to mine.

I attacked Whiterun not 3 hours ago, and it took me a few seconds of thinking before I could remember the name of guy I did it for, and I cannot for the life of me name the Jarl of Whiterun, whom I supposedly had some sort of friendship with.  I haven't booted up Dragon Age 2 in around 6 months, yet off the top of my head I can name at least 10 characters, and give you their personalities and some trivia about them.  How can any story with forgettable characters be better (especially a million times better) than a story that had memorable ones?

And to address the topic: it will be received as Mass Effect 3.  Only morons and faboys (from both sides) will attempt to compare the two.

[cactusberry]

argonian persona wrote...

Whoa. What are the ages of some of you? 13?

Nope. 

Welcome to Bioware Social Network. You will quickly regret coming here.

[Savber100]

I am for one will be pretty happy if Bioware doesn't copy Skyrim.

Let Bioware be Bioware and Bethesda be Bethesda.

In the end, lets be honest here... Skyrim is an awesome game but a poor RPG.

Yes, the world is awesome and the exploration is top-notch. However, it lacks the biggest point for RPGs which is choice and consequences. I do something and the world barely reacts to it besides for the occasional comment. In fact, it's basically DA2 with a MASSIVE world and (slightly) better writing. Other than that, Skyrim just feels more or less a fascinating action-adventure sandbox rather than a RPG. Take away the open-world and you'll pretty much have Dragon Age 2.5 in terms of c/c. At least, the inventory and exploration really makes up for it but I honestly don't think Skyrim is a good path for excellent RPGs.

And yeah, I just finished my 100 hr playthrough hence the rant....

[Bekkael]

I've never played a BioWare game I didn't love. Do I think some are better than others? Yes, but I think that all comes down to individual tastes and preferences.

I love TES games too, but Bethesda is its own entity and has a unique feel compared to BioWare, including different strengths and weaknesses.

I fully expect ME3 to completely "wow" me, and I'm sure I'll play it at least a half dozen times. So, I think the ME franchise is completely safe in the post-Skyrim era.

[ShadowSplicer]

For me the post-Skyrim effect is this: Well, perhaps it does not have a huge explorable world, but at least they took more than the two seconds Bethesda did to butcher hundreds of quests and reduce the storyline to complete crap. Skyrim had an awesome engine, awesome world, but the stuff to fill it was just that, mindless filler. I was really disappointed with it.

[Nexis7]

A mood lightning that changes colour when you clap.

[Double_02]

Savber100 wrote...

I am for one will be pretty happy if Bioware doesn't copy Skyrim.

Let Bioware be Bioware and Bethesda be Bethesda.

In the end, lets be honest here... Skyrim is an awesome game but a poor RPG.

Yes, the world is awesome and the exploration is top-notch. However, it lacks the biggest point for RPGs which is choice and consequences. I do something and the world barely reacts to it besides for the occasional comment. In fact, it's basically DA2 with a MASSIVE world and (slightly) better writing. Other than that, Skyrim just feels more or less a fascinating action-adventure sandbox rather than a RPG. Take away the open-world and you'll pretty much have Dragon Age 2.5 in terms of c/c. At least, the inventory and exploration really makes up for it but I honestly don't think Skyrim is a good path for excellent RPGs.

And yeah, I just finished my 100 hr playthrough hence the rant....

It's a matter of opinion. I disagree with you for the most part. I think Skyrim is an amazing game, my GotY for 2011. It's not a poor RPG, choices are one of things that make the game great, for fun in doing as you please and role-playing purposes. Are there dire consequences for your actions? Not much, they are limited like many other games. It is similar to DA2 in some ways, but wouldn't be the same thing even if you took those key components out.

On topic: I'm more of a Mass Effect/Bioware fan myself, but Skyrim is great, and Bethesda does a good job with making their games as well as Bioware.

In the end, it is all about personal preference and opinion. If you aren't sure about the game, wait and see.

Modifié par Double_02, 29 décembre 2011 - 09:16 .

[Thompson family]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Says it all.

[bleetman]

I know I'm certainly quaking at the knees at the prospect of Bioware doing exactly what they've been doing for nearly a decade straight now.

[DarthSliver]

AlexXIV wrote...

Skyrim will probably beat ME3 in sales. As Bethesda games always beat Bioware games. But I can already say that Skyrim was ... good, not perfect. I'd still rank ME2 higher than Skyrim. And ME3 hopefully higher than ME2. That tells you how Skyrim will be viewed in the Mass Effect era.

Skyrim is in decent lighting as Bethesda isnt because people are tired of Bethesda producing a game thats bugged riddled from what I keep hearing on their forums. Not to mention Bethesda doesnt know how to make it work properly on all three systems they release it on. So as a PS3 gamer and Mass Effect fan since the series started I think Bioware does a great job because their games have always worked like a charm on all the systems they release their games on. I mean the problem I had with their latest title DA2 wasnt a bug issue, because the game worked like it was suppose to. 

I think Mass Effect 3 will do just great in this so called Post-Skyrim era, forget post-Skyrim I think Mass Effect 3 will have problems with SWTOR because I heard SWTOR is pretty awesome. Not to mention people will forget about Skyrim because Bethesda supporters are always waiting for the next patch for about a year befoe they can truly enjoy the game. So Mass Effect 3 is just fine as it stands, its only problem is the MMO SWTOR that was recently released.

[Shockwave81]

OMG ova 'tbh', tbh. Get some new material...

Anyway I have read the spoilers and will take trailers and screenshots with a grain of salt. Learned my lesson with ME2 which was entertaining, but little more than a mech and merc shoot fest.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

What's the difference between Skyrim and Oblivion again? = P

[DarthSliver]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

What's the difference between Skyrim and Oblivion again? = P

Skyrim has dragons and I think its easier to lvl up on Skyrim too, well in the beginning. Otherwise its just a new area really

[Malanek]

I need a purpose. I can't get immersed in games in which your purpose is to wander aimlessly until you find one. Couldn't ever get into Morrowind or Oblivion for the lack of purpose and lacklustre story. The highpoint of the latter for me was breaking out of the dungeon right at the start. Plus the combat system is riddled with problems. So never picked up skyrim, I just don't understand why so many people like these games.

[Bleachrude]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

What's the difference between Skyrim and Oblivion again? = P

Oblivion actually has NPCs recognizing and reacting to your deeds more often than Skyrim? Oblivion also encouraged you to actually replay the game since joining certain guilds/learning skills was exclusive?

It's very weird that the NPC interaction from Oblivion to Skyrim has actually gone backwards...They focused everything on making an expansive world to explore but weirdly, I just don't care whatsoever about ANYONE in the world itself...No great debates about the nations or the people involved...they really don't matter

(I suspect that's partly why even though there is much more info and lore about TES worlds given how many games we are talking about, the amount of fanfiction is surprisingly low when you compare it to Dragon Age)

[Homey C-Dawg]

I wonder how future Elder Scrolls games are going to be viewed in a post-ME3 era?

[GMagnum]

i wunder how future mass effect game r goin 2 b viewed in the post-gta5 era cuz dey da same tbh

[Praetor Knight]

argonian persona wrote...

I'm new to these forums, but I have been a Mass Effect fan for a long time and have very large concerns for this game. It looks rather like a pure third-person shooter with very limited exploration, narrow and linear environments and simplistic 'press X, go to Y' gameplay. I have stayed clear of spoilers to this point, but I must say I'm very disappointed about what I see and is known sofar, so much so I have held off preordering (once seemingly an impossible notion to me) and will wait a bit before purchase. Multiplayer also has me frustrated.

Am I alone in this? I'm new here, but alot on here seem content with this game, and it doesn't really look that good, to be frank.

Hmm... so you really have no idea about what's going into ME3?

Kudos for staying clear of spoilers and Bioware has kept much underwraps, which I also like.

And although Skyrim is good, ME3 can be great, IMHO.

So if you are going to stay away from spoilers I'll say no more!

[bennyjammin79]

Meh. There's lots to do in Skyrim- if you like fetch quests. I just don't find Bethesda games interesting after a while.

That's because I play those games in the post M.E. era.