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In what light will Mass Effect 3 be viewed in the post-Skyrim era?


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RPGCodex? We must purge that stain with fire and blood!

On another note, I don't really see Skyrim as being that revolutionary, so we cannot really talk of a "post-skyrim era"

We can talk of a post-Baldurs Gate, but that is about it.

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RPGCodex -not a fan of theirs I take?

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Can we get Skyrim's Macho Man dragon mod for ME3? Can we turn the reapers into Randy Savage?

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Epic777

RPGCodex essentially believes that every single game made after Fallout 2 automatically sucks. Exceptions include Arcanum, but most posts complain about how "dumbed down" the latest RPG is, how it sucks and how it is not really an RPG.

After they buy it and play it for 50 hours, of course. The people there are not Human. They are corrupted entities which feed on hate and loathing.

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ItsThat01Guy wrote...

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ItsThat01Guy wrote...

As much as I love watching you guys belittle each other in an attempt to validate your own choices, I think we should get back to relentlessly hating on the OP just because he stated his opinion.

And if I want to play Skyrim, I'll just squint while I play Oblivion. I never finished that repetitive, paper-thin series of fetch-quests anyway, so I can kill two birds with one stone.

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Minority opinion


Whether it is a minority opinion or not is irrelevent. Popularity of Skyrim is not a valid representation of quality. And what you or any other number of people believe doesn't change or invalidate what I believe.

And I would say that the first sentence of my last post sums you up pretty accurately, but that's just my opinion.Image IPB


Of course its your opinion. And I respect that. But popularity of Skyrim and TES is a validation of Skyrim's quality based upon statistical numbers. Statistics don't lie. It's why ME3 won't sell as much.

Review scores are another statistic. With it being hundreds of times smaller than Skyrim, ME3 should be very polished. A shootfest, but polished. Not rushed like DAII.

That's another thing that might change here in the Skyrim era. More development time on games.

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argonian persona wrote...

Of course its your opinion. And I respect that. But popularity of Skyrim and TES is a validation of Skyrim's quality based upon statistical numbers. Statistics don't lie. It's why ME3 won't sell as much.
 

So sales and popularity = quality. Does that mean that MW3 was the best game of the year?

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Epic777 wrote...

As a way to atone for driving this thread into a bad direction. I have a question for all the forumites here, are we in the era of 'Bioshock'? A game series with commercial and critical success? No, even a good game doesn't always mean it will influence gaming. I believe Skyrim is in the same boat.


I'd guess it's very possible with Bioshock, although Doom maybe a better starting point for a gaming era, as stated earlier in the thread, if memory serves (I don't feel like double checking that right now).


But something does seem interesting to me, wielding a Plasmid and weapon seems similar enough to wielding magic and a sword so I wonder how long a look did Bioshock 2 get when Skyrim was being developed?

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Of course its your opinion. And I respect that. But popularity of Skyrim and TES is a validation of Skyrim's quality based upon statistical numbers. Statistics don't lie. It's why ME3 won't sell as much.
 

So sales and popularity = quality. Does that mean that MW3 was the best game of the year?


No, that award went to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim by basically, ummm, almost everybody.

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argonian persona wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Of course its your opinion. And I respect that. But popularity of Skyrim and TES is a validation of Skyrim's quality based upon statistical numbers. Statistics don't lie. It's why ME3 won't sell as much.
 

So sales and popularity = quality. Does that mean that MW3 was the best game of the year?


No, that award went to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim by basically, ummm, almost everybody.


But MW3 sold more. And statistics don't lie.

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argonian persona wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Of course its your opinion. And I respect that. But popularity of Skyrim and TES is a validation of Skyrim's quality based upon statistical numbers. Statistics don't lie. It's why ME3 won't sell as much.
 

So sales and popularity = quality. Does that mean that MW3 was the best game of the year?


No, that award went to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim by basically, ummm, almost everybody.


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5gjacOI_pcp_bKfK6cPs67m30bjIxqyp7HMrlAIL8Ko7jMzJNAw

Ahem, *Raises hand*.

No. TES5 is not by any stretch GotY for "everyone", not even "almost everyone".

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argonian persona wrote...
But popularity of Skyrim and TES is a validation of Skyrim's quality based upon statistical numbers.

No it isn't.

Statistics don't lie.

Keep telling yourself that.

It's why ME3 won't sell as much.

I'd ask how you know this but you wouldn't be able to give me a satisfactory response. 

That's another thing that might change here in the Skyrim era. More development time on games.

Five years of development time and it's still a buggy mess. It's not all about how much time you have, but what you do with it as well.

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Five years of development time and it's still a buggy mess. It's not all about how much time you have, but what you do with it as well.



Not to mention utterly unplayable on PS3 (Still)

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All minority opinions.


Keep the dogmatic view, doesn't change reality. The reality: BioWare already heavily studying Skyrim for next Dragon Age.

Mass Effect implementation is next. BioWare wants to sell more copies.

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argonian persona wrote...

All minority opinions.


Keep the dogmatic view, doesn't change reality. The reality: BioWare already heavily studying Skyrim for next Dragon Age.

Mass Effect implementation is next. BioWare wants to sell more copies.


So any view opposing yours = minority opinion?

Are you liberal or conservative?

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argonian persona wrote...

All minority opinions.


Keep the dogmatic view, doesn't change reality. The reality: BioWare already heavily studying Skyrim for next Dragon Age.

Mass Effect implementation is next. BioWare wants to sell more copies.


A question are we in the era of Morrowind or Oblivion?

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argonian persona wrote...

All minority opinions.


Keep the dogmatic view, doesn't change reality. The reality: BioWare already heavily studying Skyrim for next Dragon Age.

Mass Effect implementation is next. BioWare wants to sell more copies.


I still think they were sold on trying to get realistic beards in future games!

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Epic777 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

All minority opinions.


Keep the dogmatic view, doesn't change reality. The reality: BioWare already heavily studying Skyrim for next Dragon Age.

Mass Effect implementation is next. BioWare wants to sell more copies.


A question are we in the era of Morrowind or Oblivion?


Well, we haven't really had a Morrowind style game since... Well... Morrowind, so I'd say Oblivion.

I mean, Oblivion was obviously Oblivion.

Fallout was Oblivion set in a different universe and with guns, and Skyrim is Oblivion set on a different continent.

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^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 08 janvier 2012 - 07:15 .


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Praetor Shepard wrote...

^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.


Who cares.

That shows you how much a difference it is.

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I think Mass Effect 3 may be a nice change of pace, possibly, after Skyrim. It'll be a nice breather for some players before diving back into Skyrim's expansion coming. The question is....will the writing hold up in ME3? And is gameplay more involved than only shooting this time?


Having all that freedom and number crunching for inventory loadouts might create an appetite for a casual story driven third person shooter for some.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.


Who cares.

That shows you how much a difference it is.


The 16 square miles of terrain is completely different, as is storyline, time period, culture, and on and on and on. But isn't ME3 basically also an updated ME2?

They did a good job on Oblivion for only having hardware tech info six months before release. It's hard developing a game without definitive hardware parameters.

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I think Mass Effect 3 may be a nice change of pace, possibly, after Skyrim. It'll be a nice breather for some players before diving back into Skyrim's expansion coming. The question is....will the writing hold up in ME3?


Yes, I'd say so.

And strange question by the way. :mellow:

And is gameplay more involved than only shooting this time?


Are you still avoiding the Known Features thread?

Having all that freedom and number crunching for inventory loadouts might create an appetite for a casual story driven third person shooter for some.


Number crunching? Well, not my cup of tea exactly. :bandit:

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argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.


Who cares.

That shows you how much a difference it is.


The 16 square miles of terrain is completely different, as is storyline, time period, culture, and on and on and on. But isn't ME3 basically also an updated ME2?

They did a good job on Oblivion for only having hardware tech info six months before release. It's hard developing a game without definitive hardware parameters.


Storyline? Replace oblivion gates with Dragons.

Time period? Irrelevant. That literally has nothing to do with anything.

Culture? I'd certainly hope the culture is different, since it's a different province. If it wasn't, I'd openly call Bethesda retarded.

"Definitive hardware parameters"? Explain the notoriously buggy launch, or the literally unplayable (still) PS3 version. Unless of course you're saying the developer WANTS to ****** off as many customers as  possible.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 08 janvier 2012 - 07:27 .


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Actaully even if we dont talk about those shooters' crazy sales, just RPG genre, Skyrim can barely make top ten worldwide, the award goes to Pokemon series, Red Blue Gold and Silver sold more than 24 million copies, Black White Diamond Pearl Ruby and Sapphire all sold from 13 to 18 million copies, although i dont play Pokemon i'd like to see some Nintendo gamer stick it up to OP's face with those numbers.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.


Who cares.

That shows you how much a difference it is.


The 16 square miles of terrain is completely different, as is storyline, time period, culture, and on and on and on. But isn't ME3 basically also an updated ME2?

They did a good job on Oblivion for only having hardware tech info six months before release. It's hard developing a game without definitive hardware parameters.


Storyline? Replace oblivion gates with Dragons.

Time period? Irrelevant. That literally has nothing to do with anything.

Culture? I'd certainly hope the culture is different, since it's a different province. If it wasn't, I'd openly call Bethesda retarded.

"Definitive hardware parameters"? Explain the notoriously buggy launch, or the literally unplayable (still) PS3 version. Unless of course you're saying the developer WANTS to ****** off as many customers as  possible.


You're not talking about intro mission, recruit, 3 hub main missions, recruit and finale, are you?

Again, Skyrim has been received by the gaming community as a "masterpiece". Are there problems? Sure. But not big enough to quench Tue fact its a masterpiece.


Haters gonna hate