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[argonian persona]

Darthsam wrote...

Actaully even if we dont talk about those shooters' crazy sales, just RPG genre, Skyrim can barely make top ten worldwide, the award goes to Pokemon series, Red Blue Gold and Silver sold more than 24 million copies, Black White Diamond Pearl Ruby and Sapphire all sold from 13 to 18 million copies, although i dont play Pokemon i'd like to see some Nintendo gamer stick it up to OP's face with those numbers.

Ah yes, that kids game! Let's have that influence ME3....

[AgitatedLemon]

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.

Who cares.

That shows you how much a difference it is.

The 16 square miles of terrain is completely different, as is storyline, time period, culture, and on and on and on. But isn't ME3 basically also an updated ME2?

They did a good job on Oblivion for only having hardware tech info six months before release. It's hard developing a game without definitive hardware parameters.

Storyline? Replace oblivion gates with Dragons.

Time period? Irrelevant. That literally has nothing to do with anything.

Culture? I'd certainly hope the culture is different, since it's a different province. If it wasn't, I'd openly call Bethesda retarded.

"Definitive hardware parameters"? Explain the notoriously buggy launch, or the literally unplayable (still) PS3 version. Unless of course you're saying the developer WANTS to ****** off as many customers as  possible.

You're not talking about intro mission, recruit, 3 hub main missions, recruit and finale, are you?

Again, Skyrim has been received by the gaming community as a "masterpiece". Are there problems? Sure. But not big enough to quench Tue fact its a masterpiece.


Haters gonna hate

Way to not include a single factual statement in your completely subjective post.

I don't have any words to say, aside from various insults that may actually get me arrested.

[Darthsam]

argonian persona wrote...

Darthsam wrote...

Actaully even if we dont talk about those shooters' crazy sales, just RPG genre, Skyrim can barely make top ten worldwide, the award goes to Pokemon series, Red Blue Gold and Silver sold more than 24 million copies, Black White Diamond Pearl Ruby and Sapphire all sold from 13 to 18 million copies, although i dont play Pokemon i'd like to see some Nintendo gamer stick it up to OP's face with those numbers.

Ah yes, that kids game! Let's have that influence ME3....

Well you see unlike some people, i dont want other games to influence my game just becasue those games sell better.

[Praetor Knight]

argonian persona wrote...

You're not talking about intro mission, recruit, 3 hub main missions, recruit and finale, are you?

Again, Skyrim has been received by the gaming community as a "masterpiece". Are there problems? Sure. But not big enough to quench Tue fact its a masterpiece.


Haters gonna hate

Okay, cool. Don't forget Loyalty missions and those many assignments!

And this is the ME3 board by the way.


I too like the lore somewhat of the Elder Scrolls games, and the gameplay is solid enough in Skyrim; so what is your true purpose here with this thread?

[AlanC9]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Well, we haven't really had a Morrowind style game since... Well... Morrowind, so I'd say Oblivion.

I mean, Oblivion was obviously Oblivion.

Fallout was Oblivion set in a different universe and with guns, and Skyrim is Oblivion set on a different continent.

Really? I would have said that they were all Morrowind, except somewhat less interesting. Then again, I havne't finished a TES game since Morrowind, which cured me of the habit.

Maybe if I liked Morrowind better I wouldn't have said that Oblivion was more of the same.

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 janvier 2012 - 07:41 .

[AgitatedLemon]

AlanC9 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Well, we haven't really had a Morrowind style game since... Well... Morrowind, so I'd say Oblivion.

I mean, Oblivion was obviously Oblivion.

Fallout was Oblivion set in a different universe and with guns, and Skyrim is Oblivion set on a different continent.

Really? I would have said that they were all Morrowind, except somewhat less interesting. Then again, I havne't finished a TES game since Morrowind, which cured me of the habit.

Maybe if I liked Morrowind better I wouldn't have said that Oblivion was more of the same.

Actually, that point is better.

Aside from engine and tech improvements, and changing the name of the main antagonists, the TES series has been REALLY similar.

[AlanC9]

argonian persona wrote...

Darthsam wrote...

Actaully even if we dont talk about those shooters' crazy sales, just RPG genre, Skyrim can barely make top ten worldwide, the award goes to Pokemon series, Red Blue Gold and Silver sold more than 24 million copies, Black White Diamond Pearl Ruby and Sapphire all sold from 13 to 18 million copies, although i dont play Pokemon i'd like to see some Nintendo gamer stick it up to OP's face with those numbers.

Ah yes, that kids game! Let's have that influence ME3....

Honestly, if ME3 had to be inflienced by either Pokemon or Skyrim, I'd pick Pokemon. Better characters and dialog.

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 janvier 2012 - 07:43 .

[AgitatedLemon]

AlanC9 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Darthsam wrote...

Actaully even if we dont talk about those shooters' crazy sales, just RPG genre, Skyrim can barely make top ten worldwide, the award goes to Pokemon series, Red Blue Gold and Silver sold more than 24 million copies, Black White Diamond Pearl Ruby and Sapphire all sold from 13 to 18 million copies, although i dont play Pokemon i'd like to see some Nintendo gamer stick it up to OP's face with those numbers.

Ah yes, that kids game! Let's have that influence ME3....

Honestly, if ME3 had to be inflienced by either Pokemon or Skyrim, I'd pick Pokemon. Better characters and dialog.

And half of the dialogue in Pokemon is just the creatues saying their names, and the gym leaders spouting their incomprehensible catchphrases at you.

Does that say anything about TES' level of writing?

[argonian persona]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.

Who cares.

That shows you how much a difference it is.

The 16 square miles of terrain is completely different, as is storyline, time period, culture, and on and on and on. But isn't ME3 basically also an updated ME2?

They did a good job on Oblivion for only having hardware tech info six months before release. It's hard developing a game without definitive hardware parameters.

Storyline? Replace oblivion gates with Dragons.

Time period? Irrelevant. That literally has nothing to do with anything.

Culture? I'd certainly hope the culture is different, since it's a different province. If it wasn't, I'd openly call Bethesda retarded.

"Definitive hardware parameters"? Explain the notoriously buggy launch, or the literally unplayable (still) PS3 version. Unless of course you're saying the developer WANTS to ****** off as many customers as  possible.

You're not talking about intro mission, recruit, 3 hub main missions, recruit and finale, are you?

Again, Skyrim has been received by the gaming community as a "masterpiece". Are there problems? Sure. But not big enough to quench Tue fact its a masterpiece.


Haters gonna hate

Way to not include a single factual statement in your completely subjective post.

I don't have any words to say, aside from various insults that may actually get me arrested.

Even touching on some of your argument, this is a sample of what reviews are like for it. One of many just like this one. Enjoy .

http://i.joystiq.com.../skyrim-review/

[Thoth_Amon]

AlanC9 wrote...
Honestly, if ME3 had to be inflienced by either Pokemon or Skyrim, I'd pick Pokemon. Better characters and dialog.

wut

Ah yes, that would be hilarious.  After Bioware called jrpgs stale for doing the same thing over and over, it'd be funny watching them take influence from that.  In many ways, they already have.

[Praetor Knight]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Does that say anything about TES' level of writing?

I'd guess that would depend on how much someone is willing to pickup and read those in-game books.

But also good luck to anyone trying to picking up on the little details with all of the potential inconsistencies galore in them, to know the 'truth' in TES games about the lore anyway.

I happen to have the most fun with Dwemer lore in particular, so  I'd say I'm a tad biased there.

[AlanC9]

Thoth_Amon wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
Honestly, if ME3 had to be inflienced by either Pokemon or Skyrim, I'd pick Pokemon. Better characters and dialog.

wut

Ah yes, that would be hilarious.  After Bioware called jrpgs stale for doing the same thing over and over, it'd be funny watching them take influence from that.  In many ways, they already have.

Hey, I didn't say I liked Bio being influenced by either. Maybe I should have been more explicit:

If either Pokemon or Skyrim had to be crammed down my throat, I'd pick Pokemon. 

[AgitatedLemon]

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

^ Skyrim is a different Provence from the one featured in Oblivion actually, not continent.

Who cares.

That shows you how much a difference it is.

The 16 square miles of terrain is completely different, as is storyline, time period, culture, and on and on and on. But isn't ME3 basically also an updated ME2?

They did a good job on Oblivion for only having hardware tech info six months before release. It's hard developing a game without definitive hardware parameters.

Storyline? Replace oblivion gates with Dragons.

Time period? Irrelevant. That literally has nothing to do with anything.

Culture? I'd certainly hope the culture is different, since it's a different province. If it wasn't, I'd openly call Bethesda retarded.

"Definitive hardware parameters"? Explain the notoriously buggy launch, or the literally unplayable (still) PS3 version. Unless of course you're saying the developer WANTS to ****** off as many customers as  possible.

You're not talking about intro mission, recruit, 3 hub main missions, recruit and finale, are you?

Again, Skyrim has been received by the gaming community as a "masterpiece". Are there problems? Sure. But not big enough to quench Tue fact its a masterpiece.


Haters gonna hate

Way to not include a single factual statement in your completely subjective post.

I don't have any words to say, aside from various insults that may actually get me arrested.

Even touching on some of your argument, this is a sample of what reviews are like for it. One of many just like this one. Enjoy .

http://i.joystiq.com.../skyrim-review/

Because "critics" who get paid to bandwagon are perfectly reliable, and totally non-biased.

Especially that same joystiq that gave Modern Warfare 3 an overwhelmingly positive review.

[AlanC9]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Actually, that point is better.

Aside from engine and tech improvements, and changing the name of the main antagonists, the TES series has been REALLY similar.

That's been my impression too. Isn't the dragon business pretty obviously "this is how Skyrim's different  from the last game"?

[Darthsam]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Does that say anything about TES' level of writing?

I'd guess that would depend on how much someone is willing to pickup and read those in-game books.

But also good luck to anyone trying to picking up on the little details with all of the potential inconsistencies galore in them, to know the 'truth' in TES games about the lore anyway.

I happen to have the most fun with Dwemer lore in particular, so  I'd say I'm a tad biased there.

The Lusty Argonian Maid was pretty briliant, i'd call it one of the better easter eggs in gaming history and definitely best Bethesda writing evar~

[Mr_Mole]

My God, why hasn't this thread died yet?! Didn't I s*** on it enough already?!

Oh, and I love how everyone rebukes me for engaging in some lite fanboyism biffo, and then an hour or two later, I check back and you're all suddenly hypocrites and slagging off each others' beloved games. Tsk, tsk.

Skyrim won't have much of an impact on the whole because it simply doesn't do enough of anything new to do so, and Mass Effect 3 is just ME2 with additional features, but I'm cool with that. Neither game will represent some new paradigm for game design, although ME3 might further blur the margins between motion picture and videogame. Other than that, however, neither will be a great leap forward in the industry. And they don't have to be; as long as they're entertaining, the sole purpose of any great game, what's there to complain about?

[AgitatedLemon]

AlanC9 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Actually, that point is better.

Aside from engine and tech improvements, and changing the name of the main antagonists, the TES series has been REALLY similar.

That's been my impression too. Isn't the dragon business pretty obviously "this is how Skyrim's different  from the last game"?

I'd imagine so.

But I forgot, to the OP, dragons aren't oblivion gates, so that means TES5 is nothing like Oblivion.

Not at all.

[Thoth_Amon]

AlanC9 wrote...

Hey, I didn't say I liked Bio being influenced by either. Maybe I should have been more explicit:

If either Pokemon or Skyrim had to be crammed down my throat, I'd pick Pokemon. 

Haha, for a second there I was worried for you man!  

I think if any Bioware games take influence from any recent rpgs, they should look at Alpha Protocol's dialogue system and The Witcher 2's non-linear plot.  

Mass Effect needs to do it's own thing and take more influence from Blade Runner and hard sci-fi instead of Michael Bay, imo.  Dragon Age is a whole other set of problems and frankly, I couldn't care less if it took influence from something I hate or something I love.  I've cleansed my hands of that game.

[AgitatedLemon]

Is it just me or does the OP and all of his subsequent posts induct a great deal of bias?

[ediskrad327]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Is it just me or does the OP and all of his subsequent posts induct a great deal of bias?

it's not only you

Modifié par ediskrad327, 08 janvier 2012 - 08:11 .

[Zanallen]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Is it just me or does the OP and all of his subsequent posts induct a great deal of bias?

Really? They guy who's user name is a reference to the Elder Scrolls series is showing a Bethesda bias? Nah, I'm not seeing it.

[Praetor Knight]

Darthsam wrote...

The Lusty Argonian Maid was pretty briliant, i'd call it one of the better easter eggs in gaming history and definitely best Bethesda writing evar~

Meh.

Finally checked out all the hubbub.

Well, I'm rather drab then.

AlanC9 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Actually, that point is better.

Aside from engine and tech improvements, and changing the name of the main antagonists, the TES series has been REALLY similar.

That's been my impression too. Isn't the dragon business pretty obviously "this is how Skyrim's different  from the last game"?

Well, I found it interesting, with Tiber Septim, Akatosh and the Empire.

But I doubt it truly matters to argonian persona .
I sorta hope I'm wrong though.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 08 janvier 2012 - 08:19 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Zanallen wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Is it just me or does the OP and all of his subsequent posts induct a great deal of bias?

Really? They guy who's user name is a reference to the Elder Scrolls series is showing a Bethesda bias? Nah, I'm not seeing it.

You're aware that was a joke, right?

[Bleachrude]

 Ok, serious question time.

What the hell is the appel of MLP:FiM? From somethingawful to spacebattles to gametrailers there is huge support for this franchise from people who are NOT the target audience....

I've tried watching the damn thing and I feel nothing but MEH. Yet it is all about the ponies...