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[AcidGlow]

argonian persona wrote...

I'm new to these forums, but I have been a Mass Effect fan for a long time and have very large concerns for this game. It looks rather like a pure third-person shooter with very limited exploration, narrow and linear environments and simplistic 'press X, go to Y' gameplay. I have stayed clear of spoilers to this point, but I must say I'm very disappointed about what I see and is known sofar, so much so I have held off preordering (once seemingly an impossible notion to me) and will wait a bit before purchase. Multiplayer also has me frustrated.

Am I alone in this? I'm new here, but alot on here seem content with this game, and it doesn't really look that good, to be frank.

Me 2 was very linear and repetitive.  But ME3, its gonna be so much more.

There was no story line to me 2 all you did was recruit people gain theirl loyalty do a few side quests then go after the collectors.  For me 3 its gonna be legendary

[Shepard the Leper]

argonian persona wrote...

I'm new to these forums, but I have been a TES fan for a long time and have very large concerns for this game. It looks rather like a dumb hack & slash game with an awful lot of meaningless and pointless exploration without any purpose, narrow and linear dungeons and simplistic 'go there, fetch this' gameplay.

Corrected.

[Shockwave81]

I caved and decided to get Skyrim for PS3 (couldn't find it for 360 and don't have a gaming rig...)

Thus far it's been...a nice distraction. I enjoy the world, the dragons are suitably awe-inspiring, and there is enough to hold my attention for maybe one more play through once I've completed my first.

Is it a turning point for video games and superior to Mass Effect 3? I don't think so - unless BioWare's QA is worse than Bethesda's.

Mass Effect 3 is the culmination of an obsession that started for me back in 2007 - there is very little that has captured my attention in the gaming world since I played Mass Effect back in the day, and the only thing I'm 'worried' about is when/if I'll get another opportunity to enjoy a series like this again.

[argonian persona]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

I'm new to these forums, but I have been a TES fan for a long time and have very large concerns for this game. It looks rather like a dumb hack & slash game with an awful lot of meaningless and pointless exploration without any purpose, narrow and linear dungeons and simplistic 'go there, fetch this' gameplay.

Corrected.

How is it hack and slash? Maybe for a warrior...although at least ability is governed by Skill. You know...from a Skill constellation? I didn't do too much hacking and slashing...in fact, i used no bladed weapon unless it was something I Conjured. I am pure mage.

I do happen to agree on the linear dungeons....dungeons in Skyrim have a ME3-esque design....one way to go...very linear... not nearly as complex as Oblivion. There are many areas that that open uo into a massive area, and lots of dungeons were about 25-30 times bigger than anything in DA2.

Will 'shoot this' be the new 'fetch this' replacement? Holding down the right trigger....in an endless stream of mindnumbing pew pew, isn't my idea of good rpg elements.

[legion999]

argonian persona wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

I'm new to these forums, but I have been a TES fan for a long time and have very large concerns for this game. It looks rather like a dumb hack & slash game with an awful lot of meaningless and pointless exploration without any purpose, narrow and linear dungeons and simplistic 'go there, fetch this' gameplay.

Corrected.

How is it hack and slash? Maybe for a warrior...although at least ability is governed by Skill. You know...from a Skill constellation? I didn't do too much hacking and slashing...in fact, i used no bladed weapon unless it was something I Conjured. I am pure mage.

I do happen to agree on the linear dungeons....dungeons in Skyrim have a ME3-esque design....one way to go...very linear... not nearly as complex as Oblivion. There are many areas that that open uo into a massive area, and lots of dungeons were about 25-30 times bigger than anything in DA2.

Will 'shoot this' be the new 'fetch this' replacement? Holding down the right trigger....in an endless stream of mindnumbing pew pew, isn't my idea of good rpg elements.

You know for a game you've never played you sure know a lot about it.

[argonian persona]

legion999 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

I'm new to these forums, but I have been a TES fan for a long time and have very large concerns for this game. It looks rather like a dumb hack & slash game with an awful lot of meaningless and pointless exploration without any purpose, narrow and linear dungeons and simplistic 'go there, fetch this' gameplay.

Corrected.

How is it hack and slash? Maybe for a warrior...although at least ability is governed by Skill. You know...from a Skill constellation? I didn't do too much hacking and slashing...in fact, i used no bladed weapon unless it was something I Conjured. I am pure mage.

I do happen to agree on the linear dungeons....dungeons in Skyrim have a ME3-esque design....one way to go...very linear... not nearly as complex as Oblivion. There are many areas that that open uo into a massive area, and lots of dungeons were about 25-30 times bigger than anything in DA2.

Will 'shoot this' be the new 'fetch this' replacement? Holding down the right trigger....in an endless stream of mindnumbing pew pew, isn't my idea of good rpg elements.

You know for a game you've never played you sure know a lot about it.

You should remind posters of this who say ME3 is the best ever. They seem to know a lot about it.

That's why I'm asking how it will be received and viewed (especially in the rpg community) after the masterpiece of Skyrim. ME3 sales numbers will tell a lot...let's see if they top Skyrim.

[brfritos]

Please, don't insult Mass Effect putting the Sky "piece of crap" rim in the same line.

Thanks in advance.

[abaris]

argonian persona wrote...

That's why I'm asking how it will be received and viewed (especially in the rpg community) after the masterpiece of Skyrim. ME3 sales numbers will tell a lot...let's see if they top Skyrim.

masterpiece? In your opinion.

It's a good game, but making it out to be the halmark of RPG playing is totally your opinion.

[argonian persona]

brfritos wrote...

Please, don't insult Mass Effect putting the Sky "piece of crap" rim in the same line.

Thanks in advance.

Minority opinion. And I love ME and liked ME2.

ME3 seems like a pure tps. How will it be viewed, a tps that is allegedly an rpg (this game has co-op horde mode, need I remind you) after a masterpiece rpg, called Skyrim, just changed the landscape of the current rpg market?

[Dovahzaan]

argonian persona wrote...
ME3 seems like a pure tps. How will it be viewed, a tps that is allegedly an rpg (this game has co-op horde mode, need I remind you) after a masterpiece rpg, called Skyrim, just changed the landscape of the current rpg market?

Don't bother. Everything you say is true, but you can't argue with Biodrones. 

[Il Divo]

argonian persona wrote...

That's why I'm asking how it will be received and viewed (especially in the rpg community) after the masterpiece of Skyrim. ME3 sales numbers will tell a lot...let's see if they top Skyrim.

What kind of information do you honestly think it'll give you? How many Bioware games have beaten TES in terms of sales? Not that it's any indicator of quality. I consider Skyrim to be pretty far from a masterpiece.  Both Dark Souls and Deus Ex: Human Revolution were far superior, in my opinion.

Modifié par Il Divo, 09 janvier 2012 - 07:26 .

[AgitatedLemon]

argonian persona wrote...

brfritos wrote...

Please, don't insult Mass Effect putting the Sky "piece of crap" rim in the same line.

Thanks in advance.

Minority opinion. And I love ME and liked ME2.

ME3 seems like a pure tps. How will it be viewed, a tps that is allegedly an rpg (this game has co-op horde mode, need I remind you) after a masterpiece rpg, called Skyrim, just changed the landscape of the current rpg market?

For being 1 person, you sure do like saying "Minority opinion" as if it actually means something.

And changed the landscape of the current RPG market? IT'S OBLIVION 1.5

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 09 janvier 2012 - 07:30 .

[AlanC9]

argonian persona wrote...

Minority opinion. And I love ME and liked ME2.

ME3 seems like a pure tps. How will it be viewed, a tps that is allegedly an rpg (this game has co-op horde mode, need I remind you) after a masterpiece rpg, called Skyrim, just changed the landscape of the current rpg market?

You make less sense the longer you keep the thread going. How does a co-op horde mode change anything about the rest of the game? How will ME3 be worse than ME2, which you liked?

And you're simply deluding yourself about Skyrim, but since TES Derangement Syndrome is apparently incurable, we might as well let that go.

Modifié par AlanC9, 09 janvier 2012 - 07:31 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Skyrim Ass-kissing Syndrome is apparently incurable, we might as well let that go.

Fixed.

[Arkitekt]

I fail to be so utterly impressed by Skyrim. It has its own merits, and lots of people seem to enjoy it really well, but the game is so different from ME it's not even funny. Why should people be so tribalist regarding these games, when they cater to such different gaming experiences?

If we are to go that path, why not make a serious debate regarding the merits of Mass Effect against Chess? Ah! And you thought that Mass Defect had choices!!

[ArkkAngel007]

argonian persona wrote...

legion999 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

I'm new to these forums, but I have been a TES fan for a long time and have very large concerns for this game. It looks rather like a dumb hack & slash game with an awful lot of meaningless and pointless exploration without any purpose, narrow and linear dungeons and simplistic 'go there, fetch this' gameplay.

Corrected.

How is it hack and slash? Maybe for a warrior...although at least ability is governed by Skill. You know...from a Skill constellation? I didn't do too much hacking and slashing...in fact, i used no bladed weapon unless it was something I Conjured. I am pure mage.

I do happen to agree on the linear dungeons....dungeons in Skyrim have a ME3-esque design....one way to go...very linear... not nearly as complex as Oblivion. There are many areas that that open uo into a massive area, and lots of dungeons were about 25-30 times bigger than anything in DA2.

Will 'shoot this' be the new 'fetch this' replacement? Holding down the right trigger....in an endless stream of mindnumbing pew pew, isn't my idea of good rpg elements.

You know for a game you've never played you sure know a lot about it.

You should remind posters of this who say ME3 is the best ever. They seem to know a lot about it.

That's why I'm asking how it will be received and viewed (especially in the rpg community) after the masterpiece of Skyrim. ME3 sales numbers will tell a lot...let's see if they top Skyrim.

I don't think anyone has said ME3 is the best game ever...it will be the best one of the series, which is a fair claim, is all I've heard (and said myself).  We aren't arrogant enough to make such a ridiculous claim.

I also didn't realize ME3 was all about holding down the right trigger and endless shooting.  Thank you for that insightful update.  Nor did I know that Mass Effect 3 was supposed to be an open world "RPG" after all this time hearing about the game.  You got us all.  Bravo, sir.

Btw, Mass Effect 3 will outsell Skyrim.  The broader appeal will be the foremost reason, but there are other factors as well.  Will it be the best selling game?  No way, as there are too many trying to claw at the latest copies of CoD and Halo.  I know the limitations of the games I enjoy, including Skyrim.

[ArkkAngel007]

AlanC9 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

Minority opinion. And I love ME and liked ME2.

ME3 seems like a pure tps. How will it be viewed, a tps that is allegedly an rpg (this game has co-op horde mode, need I remind you) after a masterpiece rpg, called Skyrim, just changed the landscape of the current rpg market?

You make less sense the longer you keep the thread going. How does a co-op horde mode change anything about the rest of the game? How will ME3 be worse than ME2, which you liked?

And you're simply deluding yourself about Skyrim, but since TES Derangement Syndrome is apparently incurable, we might as well let that go.

That's because he's running out of ways to not sound like he's purposefully trying to instigate a confrontation over this.  I mean, Skyrim changed the RPG market?  Yeah, just as much as the latest Pokemon game had.  Which is none at all.  

After all, a linear game can't be successful and people who have real lives and can't waste 400 hours don't have any quality taste.

[legion999]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

legion999 wrote...
You know for a game you've never played you sure know a lot about it.

You should remind posters of this who say ME3 is the best ever. They seem to know a lot about it.

That's why I'm asking how it will be received and viewed (especially in the rpg community) after the masterpiece of Skyrim. ME3 sales numbers will tell a lot...let's see if they top Skyrim.

I don't think anyone has said ME3 is the best game ever...it will be the best one of the series, which is a fair claim, is all I've heard (and said myself).  We aren't arrogant enough to make such a ridiculous claim.

I also didn't realize ME3 was all about holding down the right trigger and endless shooting.  Thank you for that insightful update.  Nor did I know that Mass Effect 3 was supposed to be an open world "RPG" after all this time hearing about the game.  You got us all.  Bravo, sir.

Btw, Mass Effect 3 will outsell Skyrim.  The broader appeal will be the foremost reason, but there are other factors as well.  Will it be the best selling game?  No way, as there are too many trying to claw at the latest copies of CoD and Halo.  I know the limitations of the games I enjoy, including Skyrim.

There is almost no point in replying as it seems the OP either suffers from stupidity or is a troll.

[Savber100]

I love how Argonian is STILL waggling his little Skyrim around like it's the most impressive RPG ever.

Truth: It isn't

Witcher 2 and Deus Ex: HR rolls over Skyrim in terms of better role-playing games.

Also drop the "I KNOW BETTER THAN THOU" tone when ME3 hasn't even be released. Say it AFTER the game comes out and you played it before jumping and screaming about it.
Last, since when do big sales equal good game? With that logic, Call of Duty and Angry Birds are
"teh best games evar"!

[abaris]

AlanC9 wrote...

You make less sense the longer you keep the thread going. How does a co-op horde mode change anything about the rest of the game? How will ME3 be worse than ME2, which you liked?

That's one thing keeping me on etch too. A multiplayer mode, if it is to be taken seriously, needs serious work and money to fully integrate. Time and money that may be taken from somewhere else. Only the gods of money know why they saw fit to introduce it into the last part of a series. Probably an offer on the altar of broadening the audience.

And that's what's making me cautious.

[AlanC9]

Wouldn't that just tend to make the SP shorter, rather than reduce quality throughout? Of course, a short good game isn't as good as a long good game.

[The Elder King]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...


Btw, Mass Effect 3 will outsell Skyrim.  The broader appeal will be the foremost reason, but there are other factors as well.  Will it be the best selling game?  No way, as there are too many trying to claw at the latest copies of CoD and Halo.  I know the limitations of the games I enjoy, including Skyrim.

Careful here. I don't know if ME3 will be better than Skyirim as a game, but Skyrim will most likely sell more copies than ME3. Even if what Bethesda said may be not completely accurate, I think they selled at least 5,6 million copies. I doubt ME3 will be able to sell that much, considering how much ME and ME2 selled.

[abaris]

hhh89 wrote...

Careful here. I don't know if ME3 will be better than Skyirim as a game, but Skyrim will most likely sell more copies than ME3. Even if what Bethesda said may be not completely accurate, I think they selled at least 5,6 million copies. I doubt ME3 will be able to sell that much, considering how much ME and ME2 selled.

The point is rather they are two totally different genres. If I play an Elder Scroll game I know what to expect. Open world, open exploration, little to none NPC interaction and little in ways of story. Doesn't make for a bad game, but for a totally different gaming experience.

The ME series on the other hand is story and companion driven and pretty much linear. I like both approaches but wouldn't touch the Elder Scroll series if there weren't the modding possibilities making the games so much better and really immersive. In their vanilla state they're pretty much open world shooters with swords. They're certainly nothing to make up for a new age of role playing. Well, maybe Morrowind was, back in 2002, when the genre was totally new.

[Zanallen]

ME3 will most likely not outsell Skyrim. Bethesda games almost always outsell Bioware games. I assume its because people value the freedom of an open world more than a good story with strong characters. And I assume Bethesda games appeal to a larger audience, like those FPS players who bought Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Perhaps the single PC with first person perspective is more popular than third person with party management.