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[DarthSliver]

argonian persona wrote...

DarthSliver wrote...

Post-Skyrim Era really makes you realize that Bethesda cant debug worth crap because most of their games take a year after release before its debugged properly when that shouldve been done before selling the game. There is a thing called minor bugs that slip through vs major ones that slip through, the bugs that slip through shouldnt stop you from enjoying the game in most cases. Major bugs are the bugs that do stop you from being able to play and enjoy the game if that is your type of game.

Bioware hasnt released a product that has been buggy to the point that you cant play it. They have released a product that had poor design but even that game had a good story to it.

This Post-Skyrim era isnt good for Bethesda if you ask me because it just made people release Bethesda cant debug their games right. So Mass Effect 3 will do just fine because at least we wont need to wait a year after buying the game to be able to play it to its fullest.

The fullest >= all ten meters of that corridor

The only way i was able to play Skyrim questlines was to play linear like MW3 type thing, I couldnt even play it the way its meant to be played because of the bugs. I cant even get platinum trophy if i wanted to try for it because of the bugs preventing me from exploring the game. More you explore the bigger your save gets and the bigger the save is the more it bugs out and freezes on you.  Not even the 360 is immune to the problems the PS3 has it just takes longer for 360 to get there since their 512 MB ram isnt split. You just cant enjoy Bethesda games when they first release you have to wait for a year before all the major bugs are fixed so they dont ruin your experience with the title. 
Bethesda can not Debug their games properly simple fact there. Even game reviewers I hear are realizing this with Bethesda. For crying out loud Bethesda refused to give reviewers the PS3 copy to review and instead sent them 360 copies when reviewers clearly asked for PS3 version. They knew about the problems but sat back and did nothing so they could make money.  I know Bioware is out to make money just the same but at least they care about their consumers and dont throw us broken games. 

[Someone With Mass]

Not to mention that Bethesda is kind of infamous for the borderline game-breaking bugs in their games.

[argonian persona]

I'm a mage; currently my Destruction Skill is 94, my Illusion 68, Alteration 51, Conjuration 100 and Restoration 82.

How will Skills be handled in Mass Effect 3? For instance: shooting?

[aridor1570]

Bethesda will never, I repeat, never fix the game, unlike Obsidian, which took their time and fixed most of the game breaking bugs, I've replayed F:NV when Old world blues was released, a damn clear and smooth play-through, in my 150 hours of game time I have encountered only 2 bugs, which were so minor I just ignored them, compare that to when F:NV was released and you'll see a big difference, now, compare that to F3, which was released in 2008(It was released in 2008 or 2007?), it still has alot of game-breaking bugs that at this point will never be fixed, atleast Obsidian fixed their game before signing off.

[ArkkAngel007]

This is going no where, can we just hit the kill button?

[daftPirate]

argonian persona wrote...

I'm a mage; currently my Destruction Skill is 94, my Illusion 68, Alteration 51, Conjuration 100 and Restoration 82.

How will Skills be handled in Mass Effect 3? For instance: shooting?

Didn't BioWare pulse have a video specifically about customization and the skill tree? Evolving powers multiple times, putting skill point into persuasion and the like? I'm pretty sure its the same one where they talk about weapon customization.

[DiebytheSword]

Seriously, comparing a 3rd person shooter with CRPG elements to a sandbox 1st person CRPG is an excercise in stupid, especially when CRPGs are so bad in comparison to actual RPGs with a live source of continued content.

My Pinto is more bad ass than your Gremlin!

CRPGs are fun for what they are, but pretending that one is so much better than the other when you can't rightfully compare them is just a waste of time.

[argonian persona]

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially uo against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

[N7Raider]

argonian persona wrote...

I'm a mage; currently my Destruction Skill is 94, my Illusion 68, Alteration 51, Conjuration 100 and Restoration 82.

How will Skills be handled in Mass Effect 3? For instance: shooting?

YOU...ARE...A...MORON!!!
I'm an adept, level 30, with warp evolved to heavy warp, singularity level 3, pull level 2, throw level 3, shockwave evolved to heavy shockwave, and I have slam (evolved to heavy slam) as a bonus power.  My adept class is level 3, I've acquired assault rifle training in addition to various upgrades to my SMG, pistol and assault rifle such as damage, shield piercing and accuracy.  I've customized my armor to give my health and shields boosts, I've also acquired upgrades for my biotics and biotics of my squad mates as well as tech upgrades.  
Why are you so dumb?  

[aridor1570]

argonian persona wrote...

I'm a mage; currently my Destruction Skill is 94, my Illusion 68, Alteration 51, Conjuration 100 and Restoration 82.

How will Skills be handled in Mass Effect 3? For instance: shooting?

Like they did in ME2 just much beter, and hey, if you've liked ME2 so much, that's a big bonus!

Read this if you'de like to know more, but even then I don't think you'll stop ranting.

[aridor1570]

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially uo against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

Hype.

Also, how could a game so bad as ME3 earn Most anticipated game of 2012!?

Hype.

Modifié par aridor1570, 30 décembre 2011 - 10:40 .

[argonian persona]

daftPirate wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

I'm a mage; currently my Destruction Skill is 94, my Illusion 68, Alteration 51, Conjuration 100 and Restoration 82.

How will Skills be handled in Mass Effect 3? For instance: shooting?

Didn't BioWare pulse have a video specifically about customization and the skill tree? Evolving powers multiple times, putting skill point into persuasion and the like? I'm pretty sure its the same one where they talk about weapon customization.

You can make your own weapons (and armor) from raw materials and enchant weapons (and armor). I didn't say customization, I said skill. How will shooting be governed?

In the post-Skyrim era, Skill has importance. Why? Because having that stuff in there sells a heck of a lot!!!!!

[N7Raider]

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially uo against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1214971p1.html
That's why, the 360 version has bugs but nowhere near as many as the PS3 version.  Guess which one the game was reviewed on?  And what the hell are talking about "Heck, even ME3" the game doesn't come out for another 2 months.  

[Thrak Balzak]

I don't understand what all the arguing is about. I like Bethsda games. I like BioWare game. But for different reasons. I prefer Mass Effect to The Elder Scrolls, but think both are fun series. Mass Effect just feels more kinetic and full of life to me. Things are always moving forward, I get more involved in the characters and story, etc. But I still enjoy running around in those Bethesda sandboxes, creating unique character and doing whatever I feel like.

To me the games don't really compare other than both having RPG elements.

[DarthSliver]

aridor1570 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially uo against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

Hype.

Not to mention VGA was voting by the people and by than most of the gamebreaking bugs werent really problem unless you were on PS3. 

[DiebytheSword]

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially uo against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

I'm sure your tired of people telling you that they are tired of you.  So I'll skip that and say that there are many levels to what makes games great.

Bethesda games usually rate high.  Sadly, they are almost always bugfrigged out of the box and even a year after they are out.  If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have modders fixing the game on PC on week one, would we?  That the games do well despite these things is testament to their game design and appeal.  That you harp on awards like it proves your point does nothing but prove that you are a sheep.

Baaaaaaaaa.

All the games you mentioned are excellent titles, each of which I have enjoyed or will enjoy, including Skyrim and ME3.  The need to look at one and hate it because it isn't more like the other is, well, kinda thinning your herd.

I'd rather have my space opera 3rd person shooter, sandbox fantasy rpg, comic book adventure title, and sci fi puzzler continue to be discreet, wholly engaging, seperate experiences.

[argonian persona]

aridor1570 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially up against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

Hype.

It must have been, especially with all of those scores of perfection. Even Japanese media giving it the first perfect score of any Western rpg.

Back on point, though. The post-Skyrim era shows that games with rich rpg mechanics like basic Skills sell like freaking hotcakes. In conclusion, no more excuses why these underlying systems aren't in a self-proclaimed rpg.

[HiroVoid]

jreezy wrote...

Not really. 

Actually, the niche for difficult games seems to be there.  Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls, etc.

[Someone With Mass]

argonian persona wrote...

I'm a mage; currently my Destruction Skill is 94, my Illusion 68, Alteration 51, Conjuration 100 and Restoration 82.

How will Skills be handled in Mass Effect 3? For instance: shooting?

Ah, yes. The argument that the skills in ME1 were needed and not just a waste of time, as most people had to level up sniper rifle marksman in order to get Shepard to aim straight, which in its turn added nothing to the game.

We've dismissed that claim.

Not to mention that it's very silly that the trained and highly praised special forces commander can't hit the broadside of the Citadel just because he didn't spend enough points in Marksman/Assassination.

Also:



Better than skills.

[daftPirate]

argonian persona wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

I'm a mage; currently my Destruction Skill is 94, my Illusion 68, Alteration 51, Conjuration 100 and Restoration 82.

How will Skills be handled in Mass Effect 3? For instance: shooting?

Didn't BioWare pulse have a video specifically about customization and the skill tree? Evolving powers multiple times, putting skill point into persuasion and the like? I'm pretty sure its the same one where they talk about weapon customization.

You can make your own weapons (and armor) from raw materials and enchant weapons (and armor). I didn't say customization, I said skill. How will shooting be governed?

In the post-Skyrim era, Skill has importance. Why? Because having that stuff in there sells a heck of a lot!!!!!

To tell the truth, I doubt there'll be a sci-fi game where you can make your own weapons and armor. I suppose some could come up with lore like that (modular tech or something), but in a sci-fi setting people can't just make their own stuff. Works great in a fantasy setting, but not a feature that seems to serve for much comparison. Enchanting would be analagous with sci-fi customization, and as far as the video goes it does talk about the skill tree in addition to customization. I have to ask(having not played), is there a skill in Skyrim which governs sword play? It seems unreasonable, assuming the role of a soldier on a battlefiled, to have a skill governing staple skills like shooting, or sword fighting. Also, Skills have been around for a quite a while before now, so I'm not sure I follow you. What do you mean, sells a heck of a lot? Makes the game more popular?

[legion999]

Has there been no calls of the OP being a troll? I'm suprised.

Modifié par legion999, 30 décembre 2011 - 10:41 .