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[jcolt]

wow mass effect vs tes = CoD vs bf never knew there was this much hate d@%n

[aridor1570]

argonian persona wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially up against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

Hype.

It must have been, especially with all of those scores of perfection. Even Japanese media giving it the first perfect score of any Western rpg.

Back on point, though. The post-Skyrim era shows that games with rich rpg mechanics like basic Skills sell like freaking hotcakes. In conclusion, no more excuses why these underlying systems aren't in a self-proclaimed rpg.

You see, those rewards are because of hype,most reviews I've read didn't say anything about the bugs, which is because the reviewers were blinded by the hype, only the smart ones actually noticed them.


And on your second point: you have just tried to make your opinion as fact, I see no point in replying to this guy.

[N7Raider]

argonian persona wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially up against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

Hype.

It must have been, especially with all of those scores of perfection. Even Japanese media giving it the first perfect score of any Western rpg.

Back on point, though. The post-Skyrim era shows that games with rich rpg mechanics like basic Skills sell like freaking hotcakes. In conclusion, no more excuses why these underlying systems aren't in a self-proclaimed rpg.

Oh look now you can use japanese media to back up your argument, famitsu the magazine that gave Final Fantasy XII, Bayonetta, and NINTENDOGS perfect scores, well hot damn I must be wrong then.  They almost gave Final Fantasy XIII a perfect score, 39/40 a very linear game and they almost gave it a perfect score.  I love how you keep saying back on point when you're the one who goes off topic with your idiotic rebuttals, and how you're still under the delusion that this is the post skyrim era.  

[aridor1570]

legion999 wrote...

Has there been no calls of the OP being a troll? I'm suprised.

There were calls, and he obviously is, when someone proves him wrong, he changes the argument, he earlier said he loved ME2, by that itself he should love ME3, he then said that skills in the ME games are just shooting, I prove him wrong and he ignores it, he says ME2 is much more less acclaimed than Skyrim, someone shows him overall metactitic scores and he changes that argument to "I meant ME3".

Modifié par aridor1570, 30 décembre 2011 - 10:48 .

[daftPirate]

argonian persona wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

argonian persona wrote...

How could a game just so broken dominate GOTY? Especially up against Arkham City and the spectacular Portal 2? Heck, even ME3!

It's an anomaly, I tell you. For a broken game to get such esteem, I mean, wow!!

Hype.

It must have been, especially with all of those scores of perfection. Even Japanese media giving it the first perfect score of any Western rpg.

Back on point, though. The post-Skyrim era shows that games with rich rpg mechanics like basic Skills sell like freaking hotcakes. In conclusion, no more excuses why these underlying systems aren't in a self-proclaimed rpg.

But lots of games with rich rpg mechanics have basic skills to rank up, which came before Skyrim. Fallout comes first to my mind. I don't know anything about selling like hot cakes, but its not a revolutionary feature.

[Thrak Balzak]

aridor1570 wrote...
And on your second point: you have just tried to make your opinion as fact, I see no point in replying to this guy.

He does seem to be just looking for a reason to rag on ME3, despite it not even being released yet.  Nothing wrong with prefering The Elder Scroll games to Mass Effect games, but I definintely don't see how the two relate.

Also, since people were talking about the VGAs and Skyrim winning game of the year over some great games...didn't Mass Effect 3 also win Most Anticipated Game of 2012?  So clearly people can enjoy Skyrim but also think Mass Effect 3 is going to be awesome.

[argonian persona]

jreezy wrote...

argonian persona wrote...
In the post-Skyrim era, Skill has importance.

Depends on the game.

 Why? Because having that stuff in there sells a heck of a lot!!!!!

Not really. 

All you need to do is look at the statistics objectively.

I agree very much with the poster who said he wants third person shooter and his sandbox fantasy separate from his space opera. The thing I see though is the space opera has become the authentic third person shooter. That is my gripe. If it was a genuine hybrid, i wouldn't have issue.

Up until now, I have loved to pieces the ME IP. Up until now, it is by far the best game title ever and the best piece of fiction ever.

That is until now. Until Mass Effect 3. It is very different this time, and its very, very disappointing.

[N7Raider]

argonian persona wrote...

jreezy wrote...

argonian persona wrote...
In the post-Skyrim era, Skill has importance.

Depends on the game.

 Why? Because having that stuff in there sells a heck of a lot!!!!!

Not really. 

All you need to do is look at the statistics objectively.

I agree very much with the poster who said he wants third person shooter and his sandbox fantasy separate from his space opera. The thing I see though is the space opera has become the authentic third person shooter. That is my gripe. If it was a genuine hybrid, i wouldn't have issue.

Up until now, I have loved to pieces the ME IP. Up until now, it is by far the best game title ever and the best piece of fiction ever.

That is until now. Until Mass Effect 3. It is very different this time, and its very, very disappointing.

Mass Effect 3 is very very different, tell me can you lend my your time machine, I would be in your debt if you did I would even stop trolling  you.  That has to be the only way you know it's so different I mean the game doesn't even come out for another 2 months and we've only seen 20-30 minutes of gameplay, so please oh please lend me your time machine.  

[Someone With Mass]

argonian persona wrote...
All you need to do is look at the statistics objectively.

I agree very much with the poster who said he wants third person shooter and his sandbox fantasy separate from his space opera. The thing I see though is the space opera has become the authentic third person shooter. That is my gripe. If it was a genuine hybrid, i wouldn't have issue.

Up until now, I have loved to pieces the ME IP. Up until now, it is by far the best game title ever and the best piece of fiction ever.

That is until now. Until Mass Effect 3. It is very different this time, and its very, very disappointing.

And what are you basing this on, exactly? The trailers?

[aridor1570]

I'd like to know, how different is it? combat? no, that's impossible, it's nearly the same.
RPG mechanics? No, can't be, they are vastly improved over the second game.
Exploration? No, can't be, it'll probably have the same kind of exploration as ME2.
Choices? Why, no, can't be,devs have confirmed many choices and many choice outcomes.

[Had-to-say]

I warned not to feed the troll, now he has turned into a reptilian monster. Soon he will convulse and birth five new trolls from his rectum.

[Thrak Balzak]

argonian persona wrote...
That is until now. Until Mass Effect 3. It is very different this time, and its very, very disappointing.

As others have pointed out, Mass Effect 3 is still 2 months from release so how do you know it's very different this time?  I don't know why you'd love the other Mass Effect games, but think Mass Effect 3 will be drastically different.  Even sounds like ME3 will have more customization in some respects than ME2 did.

[argonian persona]

Someone With Mass wrote...

argonian persona wrote...
All you need to do is look at the statistics objectively.

I agree very much with the poster who said he wants third person shooter and his sandbox fantasy separate from his space opera. The thing I see though is the space opera has become the authentic third person shooter. That is my gripe. If it was a genuine hybrid, i wouldn't have issue.

Up until now, I have loved to pieces the ME IP. Up until now, it is by far the best game title ever and the best piece of fiction ever.

That is until now. Until Mass Effect 3. It is very different this time, and its very, very disappointing.

And what are you basing this on, exactly? The trailers?

Trailers and BioWare released demos. If its different than my perception, I want to see it. Good marketing shows the things they claim is in the game. I never take it at face value. If there is exploration, I want to see it. If there are more open areas, I want to see it. Until then, its sales talk.

[Thrak Balzak]

But how do you talk about the sales of a game that's not yet released?

[aridor1570]

They have never said there is exploration, they have never said there are more open areas(like ME2), have you even watched the BioWare pulse episodes?

[DiebytheSword]

Apples to Oranges: Why you can't have a "shooting" skill in a 3rd person shooter that determines aim mostly on where you point your mouse. If you add sway or reload speed, breath holding that kind of thing, maybe damage done, but all of those things make way more sense from an equipment standpoint minus holding your breath.

[aridor1570]

Plus, you can't base anything out of one trailer, yes, one, those short videos with short segments for only 1 mission are not trailers.

[argonian persona]

Sure there has been talk of more open areas. I'm not saying sandbox, but there has been lots of claim to more open areas and exploration. I just want to see it. Verifiable demonstration it exists would be great. There has been talk of a larger Citadel, larger species homeworlds, deeper NPC interactions.

Let's see it.

Modifié par argonian persona, 30 décembre 2011 - 11:15 .

[N7Raider]

argonian persona wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

argonian persona wrote...
All you need to do is look at the statistics objectively.

I agree very much with the poster who said he wants third person shooter and his sandbox fantasy separate from his space opera. The thing I see though is the space opera has become the authentic third person shooter. That is my gripe. If it was a genuine hybrid, i wouldn't have issue.

Up until now, I have loved to pieces the ME IP. Up until now, it is by far the best game title ever and the best piece of fiction ever.

That is until now. Until Mass Effect 3. It is very different this time, and its very, very disappointing.

And what are you basing this on, exactly? The trailers?

Trailers and BioWare released demos. If its different than my perception, I want to see it. Good marketing shows the things they claim is in the game. I never take it at face value. If there is exploration, I want to see it. If there are more open areas, I want to see it. Until then, its sales talk.

They never showed any skill progression or rpg features in skyrim trailers, they never even showed skill progression or rpg features in the ME1 trailers, and yes they have shown expanded exploration this isn't a sandbox game but since you're so obsessed with exploration anything to shut you up.  I've already explained to you why you're stupid you base your opnion off of 20-30 minutes of trailers/demos, I just felt like telling you again.  

Modifié par N7Raider, 30 décembre 2011 - 11:11 .

[Someone With Mass]

argonian persona wrote...

Trailers and BioWare released demos. If its different than my perception, I want to see it. Good marketing shows the things they claim is in the game. I never take it at face value. If there is exploration, I want to see it. If there are more open areas, I want to see it. Until then, its sales talk.

And yet, you're taking the trailers and demo at face value. 

Funny how that works.

[argonian persona]

DiebytheSword wrote...

Apples to Oranges: Why you can't have a "shooting" skill in a 3rd person shooter that determines aim mostly on where you point your mouse. If you add sway or reload speed, breath holding that kind of thing, maybe damage done, but all of those things make way more sense from an equipment standpoint minus holding your breath.

Reload speed and sway based on Skill? Now your talking!!! Good ideas.

Modifié par argonian persona, 30 décembre 2011 - 11:11 .

[aridor1570]

argonian persona wrote...

Sure there has been talk of more open areas. I'm not saying sandbox, but there has been lots of claim to more open areas and exploration. I just want to see it. Verifiable demonstration it exists would be great. There has been Tali of a larger Citadel, larger species homeworlds, deeper NPC interactions.

Let's see it.

But were those statements from BW or the fans? I don't recall BW promising anything like that.

Modifié par aridor1570, 30 décembre 2011 - 11:12 .

[daftPirate]

argonian persona wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Apples to Oranges: Why you can't have a "shooting" skill in a 3rd person shooter that determines aim mostly on where you point your mouse. If you add sway or reload speed, breath holding that kind of thing, maybe damage done, but all of those things make way more sense from an equipment standpoint minus holding your breath.

Reload speed and sway based on Skill? Now your talking!!! Good ideas.

Certainly, but as long as we're comparing(and from personal curiosity), does Skyrim have skills for these things, like sword play, or accuracy with bows? I can't play until I my roommate comes back from break.