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[GriTTz79]

In my opinion Dragon Age has a wider array of Items/abilities and i also love the use of the party system and how it makes you use everyone as a team. I loved Oblivions  horses and vampires. Also you can swim underwater or walk on it....Great stuff

[Schyzm]

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[Seifz]

I still don't understand why anyone played Oblivion for more than a weekend. Am I the only one that figured out how to break the stat system without cheating and just own everything? I mean, it was fun to run around and kill people and do quests for about a day and then I spent another day actually finishing the "story", but then it got pretty boring.



Still, it was very pretty! I remember editing the settings file to make the graphics better than the in-game menu supported and it was very, very nice to look at. I especially loved the water reflections!

[Mordaedil]

I spent way too much time in both Oblivion and Fallout 3 myself.



Though while I do like to walk around in Oblivion, I often rage as I am beset by bee-hives, in the form of Minotaurs or Will o' wisps from nowhere in the middle of civilization.



In Dragon Age, I have no discontent with when I meet mobs. They always make sense where I find them.

[GriTTz79]

yea that is for sure, i hated Will o' Wisps lol. There are some definite spooky moments in Oblivion though.

Modifié par GriTTz79, 23 novembre 2009 - 11:11 .

[Few87]

Is this serious, oblivion isnt even an RPG. Well I know they claim it is but in reality its a pretty heinous FPS with swords. Such a shame after morrowind, its like disneys remake of an RPG game, I mean really all copies of oblivion should be destroyed.

[Beertastic]

Few87 wrote...

Is this serious, oblivion isnt even an RPG. Well I know they claim it is but in reality its a pretty heinous FPS with swords. Such a shame after morrowind, its like disneys remake of an RPG game, I mean really all copies of oblivion should be destroyed.

I'd take Oblivion over Morrowind any day, if only because you can run without draining Fatigue. I spent way too many hundreds of hours on both, though. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, Bethseda can make a fine game (even if my fanboism lies deeply seated with Bioware).

[Jim_uk]

Oblivion is an action game with stats pretending to be an RPG, Dragon Age isn't.

Modifié par Jim_uk, 23 novembre 2009 - 11:26 .

[Spaceweed10]

There are no similarities between the games - one is the best RPG ever made, the other is cack.

[Hatem]

In Oblivion you can edit you character's info when you leave starting area, in Dragon Age, you can't. But yes, Dragon Age > Oblivion.

[roku]

seriously? dao is no more a rpg than oblivion is. dont get me wrong...i love the game, i also loved oblivion (morrowind was better), but seriously, neither one is a real rpg.



did anyone actually feel you were developing a character in either game? i certainly didnt. id go so far as to say oblivion gives you way more variety to play around with than dao. i could play dao 20 times and the only thing that would make it different would be which class i was playing.

[Sarakinoi]

You are comparing two games spaced by at least 3-4 years, not exactly fair.



If you want a better comparison, pit a more recent Bethesda game like Fallout 3 vs DA:O. But even then, they are very different beasts with very different approaches, qualities, and shortcomings.



Oblivion was good. I like first person RPGs + open worlds, etc I find it immensely more immersive. I didn't follow the story at all at first and just explored randomly, stumbling into strange places, people, creatures, and whatnot and doing small quests here and there. The freedom to do this is a big advantage of Bethesda's approach.



Dragon Age is different... Smaller in a way, and even if we lose some freedom we gain more quality in the environments as Bioware can hand make everything to produce the exact experience they wish to. In this DA:O is more of a novel, while Oblivion is more of a virtual world.

[Aether99]

Other then some obvious fantasy rpg elements why would you even bother to compare the two?

they are two completly different games.  It would be like comparing fallout 3 to modern warfare....sure they both shoot guns, but they are different!

Similarities....they are fantasy rpgs, meaning they have items, stats, levels, skills, spells, dialogue, just like almost every fantasy rpg.

differences...too many to bother listing.

[Aether99]

Sarakinoi wrote...

You are comparing two games spaced by at least 3-4 years, not exactly fair.

If you want a better comparison, pit a more recent Bethesda game like Fallout 3 vs DA:O. But even then, they are very different beasts with very different approaches, qualities, and shortcomings.

Oblivion was good. I like first person RPGs + open worlds, etc I find it immensely more immersive. I didn't follow the story at all at first and just explored randomly, stumbling into strange places, people, creatures, and whatnot and doing small quests here and there. The freedom to do this is a big advantage of Bethesda's approach.

Dragon Age is different... Smaller in a way, and even if we lose some freedom we gain more quality in the environments as Bioware can hand make everything to produce the exact experience they wish to. In this DA:O is more of a novel, while Oblivion is more of a virtual world.

wait...how can you say oblivion was immersive if you also say you didnt follow the story at all the first time? 

Myself I dont really like first person rpgs, at least fantasy ones because the melee never translates well.  I was never able to get more then a couple hours into oblivion, and I followed the story.  After that it was a "lets see what stupid crap I can do" type of game.  No real point, just wandering around doing stupid stuff like pissing off a guard and seeing how long it will follow me. 

[bjdbwea]

People say Oblivion is too much an action game, and not an RPG? At least Oblivion displays all relevant statistics for items and spells, and has a realistic inventory system (sort of). Better possibilities for PC customization too. That said, I prefer to have the focus on story, characters and attention to details, where DA of course wins easily.

[Aether99]

bjdbwea wrote...

People say Oblivion is too much an action game, and not an RPG? At least Oblivion displays all relevant statistics for items and spells, and has a realistic inventory system (sort of). Better possibilities for PC customization too. That said, I prefer to have the focus on story, characters and attention to details, where DA of course wins easily.

Thats probably why the game didnt do it for me.  The action I disliked, and there was a lot of it.  The story after you leave the dungeon felt completly optional.

But I must admit, at least it had relevant statistics for spells/skills.  Inventory never bothered me in DAO though.  I figure its kinda realistic considering you have 4 people helping cary the stuff.

And yes better options for PC customization (Im betting they coulda made it more customized but instead went the more premade route to avoid the people who cant customize a good face, I know all my characters in oblivion and fallout3 looked quite horrible lol)

[Sarakinoi]

wait...how can you say oblivion was immersive if you also say you didnt follow the story at all the first time?

I said I did not follow the story at first. And yes it was more immersive in the sens that some moments you can forget that you are playing a game and completely feel like the character. Sneaking into an obscure Daedra ruin and try to get the treasure without fighting the guardians, then you suddenly jump in your chair as something creeps behind you and attack, then you run trying to leave as you are not strong enough to fight it.

Third person view is not as immersive as you are always looking at the character. You are not living the events, and you rarely feel the sens of danger you can in first person because somehow it is the character you are looking at from above that is dying or bleeding. Most sensations don't get to you as there is a middle man to soak up a lot of it. Even more so when you control a party, as characters feel more like tools you are using to follow the story and fight, they are not "you". I feel only first person can give you that proximity, and that's why I say it is ultimately more immersive.

[soullessportal]

both are good in their own way, and both deserve to be treated as such. I have played oblivion till I had done everything besides the main quest. Then I got a feeling that I had completed the game but if you wanted you can go and visit dungeons to kill some more. The only thing that was not as good in oblivion as in DA:O is the easyness you could kill the enemy in the end. Mostly it was sneak, one critical hit dead. here you don't have that but even more in the other direction. I think the weapons do a bit to little damage in DA:O especially the big swingers, also two handed swords should be a bit faster in attacks.

[Few87]

I swear the people that like oblivion are all insane. It was one of the worst games ever made! There was literrally no choice whatsoever in the game. The "world" served as an interactive menu screen from which to choose dead end, one way to complete awfull quests. i imagine that the people who like oblivion are all around 18 years old and have never played reall games and think oblivion is some sort of classic. My god I wish that pathetic excuse for a game was never released. ahhhhhhh

[marcel1980]

The best thing i enjoyed on Oblivion was the hunting mod ;D. I ran around hunted animals and selling the fur. sometimes done a quest but then i get bored walking around the same oblivion areas

[Jaryd theBlackDragon]

Jim_uk wrote...

Oblivion is an action game with stats pretending to be an RPG, Dragon Age isn't.

I prefer S.T.A.L.K.E.R. over Oblivion then. At least the combat didn't suck and it certainly wasn't as mindnumbingly repetitive...

[Sarakinoi]

Few87 wrote...

I swear the people that like oblivion are all insane. It was one of the worst games ever made! There was literrally no choice whatsoever in the game. The "world" served as an interactive menu screen from which to choose dead end, one way to complete awfull quests. i imagine that the people who like oblivion are all around 18 years old and have never played reall games and think oblivion is some sort of classic. My god I wish that pathetic excuse for a game was never released. ahhhhhhh

lol?
29 years old, gamer since 1988, and Oblivion is very far from being my first game. Maybe you just fail to see the game strengths?
And yes you had choice. You could be good, evil, use force, sneakiness (beat the item out of the guard, or steal it, or do a quest for him, etc), and you didn't have to have dialogue choices to kill someone as you had the freedom to do so at any time.
But still, my dream game would be DA:O in first person + Free roaming. I would play with tears flowing + a big smile on my face.

Modifié par Sarakinoi, 23 novembre 2009 - 01:07 .

[ItmustBeDONE]

Oblivion was a different game, but it IS a good game. I don't see the point in saying it is bad. Even without choice, the game tells a great story. It feels more like a movie than anything, which is why I think Oblivion should have just been a movie with multiple movies