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lobi wrote...

Deus ex HR: The graphics were hardly any better than ME2 and the roleplay was non-existant, Killer blowitallup lonewolf Jenson was the same guy as sneaky pacifist lonewolf Jenson. Alpha protocol was better.

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Apart from the boss fights, you are mistaken. Obviously you didn't play the game properly.

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vometia wrote...
...but for me it's just lacking some sort of spark.  I can't say exactly what, but Morrowind had it, Oblivion had it, even the recent Fallouts had it, but Skyrim doesn't have it.  I keep using the word "charmless": I feel very little "pull".

Yes, it's hard to pin down. Like it's missing a heart and soul, that extra dimension that keeps it from being flat. It's what gets left out or replaced with glitter, when the creator's try to 'improve' the next version.

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Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...


I don't understand your logic. Skyrim is a vast improvement over Oblivion(Morrowind, fair enough).
It just does not compute.



Spell Creation was immensely important for my ability to role play, without it magic became pointless to me. 

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Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

lobi wrote...
Deus ex HR: The graphics were hardly any better than ME2 and the roleplay was non-existant, Killer blowitallup lonewolf Jenson was the same guy as sneaky pacifist lonewolf Jenson. Alpha protocol was better.

Apart from the boss fights, you are mistaken. Obviously you didn't play the game properly.

Obviously, you strayed off topic. So why not tell us what is your most disappointing Game or games of 2011 now that we know Deus Ex HR isn't one of them? Thank you.

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Saints Row the Third it was a good game but was so short after 2 days Id taken over the whole city and had almost all the achievements.

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Assassin's Creed: Revelations, definitely. Huge step down from Brotherhood. The story was boring and pointless.

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Im going to have to go with DA2 which is a shame to say because I love the lore, characters and voice acting.  But the fact is its collecting dust now.  I havent bought any of the DLC because I dont think it will save this game and I dont feel inclined to pay money for content that should have been included in the main game but was cut because the game was rushed out in a year.  

I forced two and a half plays out of it but its repetitive nature wont make me do another for at least another six months. Which is a shame because I still want to import another three plays and still want to go back to Origins and play that again.

Anyway mini rant done :P     Im sure DA3 will get it back together 

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CenturyCrow wrote...

Yes, it's hard to pin down. Like it's missing a heart and soul, that extra dimension that keeps it from being flat. It's what gets left out or replaced with glitter, when the creator's try to 'improve' the next version.

I think what Nerdage said on the last page about it having the least interesting characters is a large part of the problem too.  I never really seem to feel much connection to anyone or anything I'm doing; strong characters have never been Bethesda's strong suit, but in previous games they've been "good enough", whereas most of Skyrim's characters are instantly forgettable and mostly rather uncharismatic.

I'm inclined to agree with the "improvements" too: it would've been better had they made smaller, incremental improvements and fixed the stuff that people didn't like about previous games.  Which they pretty much did in the latter regard by overhauling vanilla Oblivion's scaling and economics, but then it seems they kept on fiddling about with stuff, which is always fatal; I guess they ended up with the equivalent of DA2's "awesome button" instead of concentrating on things like immersion and atmosphere.  And by "stuff" I don't just mean the visually-cool-but-awkward skills trees but also stuff like trying to make it feel more gritty and "grown up": I guess they succeeded, but in the process I think they lost more than they gained.

It's a pity because nebulous problems like this are harder to fix than the widely publicised faults of games like Oblivion: sure, that also had some artistic elements that some people didn't like and a few found the "mediaeval Europe" type setting a bit uninspired, but I think that's a more straightforward piece of subjectivity than whatever it is that's wrong with Skyrim; whereas its more widely criticised faults with gameplay mechanics such as the scaling and economics I mentioned were successfully overhauled by a number of different people.

Before it sounds like I'm being overly critical, I guess I feel the same way about Skyrim as I do about DA2: it's not crap and actually I really rather enjoyed it, I just felt like it could've (should've?) been so much more.

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That "spark" you people are saying is missing from Skryim?
Yeah I feel it all over Skyrim in spades.
Not an ounce of it in Oblivion cause it was all in Shivering Isles lol.

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No real disappointments for me. DAII was what i expected (love it), Portal 2 was even better than i expected (love it), Skyrim is just what i expected (love it most of the time). Didn't plan on getting Arkham City, so i had no expectations when it got it for Christmas (I like it).
The closest thing to a disappointment would be Deus Ex: Human Revolution. The story looked a bit more dramatic in trailers (and the "New Black Gold" video), the character system is a tad unbalanced, the graphics are a bit outdated. But i still like it very much, and it isn't much below my expectations, so i wouldn't count it.

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Halo Reach sucked arse.

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DA2 duh

Even worse was BRINK! What a reeking heap of garbage!

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I had a chance to play the DA2 demo at Comic Con almost a year before launch, and I had a pretty good idea of what the game was going to be like.

Other than a few gripes like the reverse fedex sidequests, no ability to fully commit to the apostates or templars, etc., I really enjoyed the game, ended up logging a few hundred hours with two characters and I still might go back to it .

On the other hand, I was looking forward to Witcher 2 for quite a long time, pre-ordered it more than six months in advance, and sadly it played like a slideshow on my computer.

Granted, I don't have the greatest gaming pc, but i'm able to play most games at 1080p and Witcher 2 runs horribly even at the lowest settings. As a result of the lag / low frame rate, the controls were very unresponsive and I think my enjoyment of the game suffered.

I also found the game world's slightly more open areas to be frustrating. They were almost open world, but then every time I run into a tiny puddle or stream, I run smack into an invisible wall, which is sometimes crossable 2 inches to the left, etc. It was like teasing me with the illusion of an "almost" open world. It might seem counterintuitive, but this didn't really bother me in games like DA2 that don't really have any large open areas.

Also the A.I. pathing for most enemies was rather odd - if you take two steps backward, they stop chasing you and allow you to heal. I hope there is a mod that addresses this issue.

I'm planning to dive back into Witcher 2 at some point, perhaps I will try running at a lower resolution. I was just disappointed with how poorly it runs and during the little bit of the game that I played (about 15 hours), I missed some of the soulfulness of great moments of Witcher 1, where, for example, you get completely hammered with Zoltan and Dandelion, then unceremoniously dumped on the doorstep of either Triss or Shandi, only to be thoroughly reamed and all the while your vision is still blurry from getting drunk.

That was probably the defining moment of Witcher 1 for me. I hope there are similar moments in Witcher 2.


Dude I ran the Witcher 2 on highest settings on a 26" monitor and did not experience any of the problems you did.  It ran perfectly.  The AI was great IMO.  So bummed out you had a bad experience.  It was my favorite game this year.  I liked it better than Skyrim and I love Skyrim.  You prolly just need to upgrade the ole PC.  I upgraded this year and it's soooo worth it.  On a side note, the first 15 hours of the Witcher 2 are the slowest most boring of the game.  The back half of the game is where it picks up nicely.

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can we go back to the party/turn-based 16bit rpg games of old? i miss those games. :(

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Hellbound555 wrote...

can we go back to the party/turn-based 16bit rpg games of old? i miss those games. :(


Every JRPG still being made.
Is it the 16 bit graphics that makes it different?

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Rockworm503 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

can we go back to the party/turn-based 16bit rpg games of old? i miss those games. :(


Every JRPG still being made.
Is it the 16 bit graphics that makes it different?



Oh you might have gotten some "Lols" if that blantant remark had any truth to it. @_@ Really what is it with this site and all the damn hipster like Opinions?

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saMOOrai182 wrote...

FEAR 3. everything about it was bad.


I know... : (       It made me so sad...

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KenKenpachi wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

can we go back to the party/turn-based 16bit rpg games of old? i miss those games. :(


Every JRPG still being made.
Is it the 16 bit graphics that makes it different?



Oh you might have gotten some "Lols" if that blantant remark had any truth to it. @_@ Really what is it with this site and all the damn hipster like Opinions?


I was being 100% serious what is it about the 16bit that makes them any different today?  Because I can only think of one thing.... NOSTALGIA
I'm a hipster for not getting a genre?

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Saints Row the Third it was a good game but was so short after 2 days Id taken over the whole city and had almost all the achievements.


Did you do anything else other than play the game in those two days?

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Probably Skyrim. It looked fun and great and everyone around me couldn't stop saying that this game would be the best ever made. For me it failed quite hard at that. I loved a few quest chains and killing a few dragons but after a short while it got boring.

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For me it was DAII, the game didn't live up to its expectations. It wasn't about the changes that were made for me, i'm okay with all those, but the game feels like it was dumbed down, with an unfinished story that needed much more development and fleshing out, ESPECIALLY because the new DA will be a totally different story. Characters needed more development, Isabella turning out to be Zevran 2.0 with boobs didn't amuse me, at all. I pretty much think the game's strongest points are Varric and Aveline.

I hate nothing more than unused potential, and DA II was full of that, sadly.

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DA2, a game that had so much potential but sadly it was rushed and only half complete.

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Phaffner wrote...

DA2, a game that had so much potential but sadly it was rushed and only half complete.


Fable III was a complete mess and my personal most disappointing game. Playing DA2 was exasperating because one experienced a nearly palpable sense that the game was incomplete. Bless those that deal with it truly, but I imagine it's akin to phantom limb sydrome. It's not there but you can still feel it.

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chunkyman wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...


I don't understand your logic. Skyrim is a vast improvement over Oblivion(Morrowind, fair enough).
It just does not compute.



Spell Creation was immensely important for my ability to role play, without it magic became pointless to me. 


That old spell creation system was terrible. It was overly restrictive, I could never make the spell I wante because the game kept going"no, you don't".

CenturyCrow wrote...
Obviously, you strayed off topic. So why not tell us what is your most disappointing Game or games of 2011 now that we know Deus Ex HR isn't one of them? Thank you.

I posted it on the previous page, it was The Old Republic(compelte waste of download). Although FEAR3 came close, I didn't hate it butI feel that they could have at least given it a more engaging single player experience instead of focusing solely on co-op

Modifié par Andarthiel_Demigod, 04 janvier 2012 - 03:51 .


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Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

chunkyman wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...


I don't understand your logic. Skyrim is a vast improvement over Oblivion(Morrowind, fair enough).
It just does not compute.



Spell Creation was immensely important for my ability to role play, without it magic became pointless to me. 


That old spell creation system was terrible. It was overly restrictive, I could never make the spell I wante because the game kept going"no, you don't".



So instead of tweaking it or fixing what sucked Bethesda just removed it. I'd prefer having it and be difficult then not.