Hi. I became a Bioware fan around the time that KotOR was released, fell in love with their characters and stories. I have played Jade Empire and Mass Effect 1&2 since. Recently, I went thought another Bioware Infinity Engine game called Planescape: Torment, which was amazing. Now I'm onto Baldur's Gate, and I'm not loving it as much as PS:T, gameplay-wise or story-wise.
HELP ME ENJOY THESE GAMES.
Convince me to play this game
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wolfennights
, déc. 31 2011 07:16
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 08:03
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Think about why you don't like it so much - you may find your concerns can be addressed by adding mods. For instance if you don't like the lack of interaction between characters in BG1 you could add in the BG1 NPC project. If you find the screen size too small or would like a larger choice of characters then use Tutu or BGT to play with the BG2 game engine.
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 10:05
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I recommend simply jumping ahead to Baldur's Gate 2. The original Baldur's Gate is a bit of an acquired taste. But then again so is Planescape Torment, so to each their own.
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Posté 31 décembre 2011 - 12:26
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Move onto Baldur's Gate 2. There are a ton of mods you can use. Check out Gibberlings 3 (nice widescreen mod there), Pocket Plane (if you like banter, make sure to grab the one for extended banter between the NPCs), and especially Weimer's Mods (Solafien and Valen character mods are particularly entertaining).
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Posté 01 janvier 2012 - 06:05
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Not every game by Bioware is going to appeal to you, no matter the game. Baldur's Gate was actually published by the same company that published PS:T, so that's where you get the engine being used between the two games. PS:T, is my fav RPG of all time for dialogue and player agency. But then again, I am a huge Chris Avellone fan, he's one the best writers in my books. Also, PS:T is more about story and far less about combat, though you can employ it if you please. BG is more combat oriented than PS:T. Still though, BG is one of the greatest RPGs I have ever played and it still my fav Bioware game, though Dragon Age Origins has pretty much been on the same level as it for a great experience. Anyway, I find it interesting that you liked KoTOR, ME, etc and they are far less reliant on dialogue than PS:T, but you don't like BG.
Having said this, you may want to give Dragon Age: Origins a try (if you haven't already), that game is right there with the best of them.
Having said this, you may want to give Dragon Age: Origins a try (if you haven't already), that game is right there with the best of them.
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Posté 01 janvier 2012 - 10:07
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Hard to know how to recommend BG1 if you liked PS:T and aren't liking BG- particularly as I've loved BG and never could get into PS:T after three go's at it. For sure the gameplay appearance is better than PS:T, and the artwork is what BG is known for. BG is great for the open range of exploration to be had and the rather zany encounters and you find, including a range of humorous voices and dialogues that accompany them. The storyline starts very slow, almost as if there isn't really anything major to deal with, but as your character gets deeper and deeper into the main plot it gets more and more engrossing with a number of creative plot twists and in-game experiences. PS:T seems a lot more carefully plotted out from start to finish, but I wouldn't know.
Contrary to others, I'd suggest BG1 first. If you're willing to endure the reduced graphic interface of PS:T, you should be able to enjoy BG1. You'll certainly appreciate the advantages of BG2 better when you get there if you've taken the long road through BG1, and you'll appreciate the storyline better that way also.
Contrary to others, I'd suggest BG1 first. If you're willing to endure the reduced graphic interface of PS:T, you should be able to enjoy BG1. You'll certainly appreciate the advantages of BG2 better when you get there if you've taken the long road through BG1, and you'll appreciate the storyline better that way also.
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Posté 02 janvier 2012 - 12:15
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I played Planescape: Torment very recently (within the last month) and I enjoyed Knights of the Old Republic II more than I enjoyed the first, despite its glitches and abrupt ending. I'm also a Final Fantasy fan but not a Betheseda fan.
I've installed EasyTutu, which lets me play BG1 using the BG2 engine, a widescreen mod, and Unfinished Business. How is Tutu compared to the original? I talked with someone who was telling me that Tutu messes up the sound or makes it not play properly, and that it messes with the enemy spawning.
I've installed EasyTutu, which lets me play BG1 using the BG2 engine, a widescreen mod, and Unfinished Business. How is Tutu compared to the original? I talked with someone who was telling me that Tutu messes up the sound or makes it not play properly, and that it messes with the enemy spawning.
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Posté 02 janvier 2012 - 05:16
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Just skip BG/TotSC. You're not missing much but the barest of story.
A lot of the difference in Tutu is in the "feel" of the game. Some of the elements are different (random spawning works differently between the two engines), but most everything should basically behave similarly. I personally consider Tutu sacrilege that betrays the spirit of the original game, but knock yourself out if you have to (most everybody does, so you can be assured that it works well enough).
But like I said, there's nothing in BG/TotSC that isn't done better in BG2, and you don't miss much by skipping it.
A lot of the difference in Tutu is in the "feel" of the game. Some of the elements are different (random spawning works differently between the two engines), but most everything should basically behave similarly. I personally consider Tutu sacrilege that betrays the spirit of the original game, but knock yourself out if you have to (most everybody does, so you can be assured that it works well enough).
But like I said, there's nothing in BG/TotSC that isn't done better in BG2, and you don't miss much by skipping it.
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Posté 02 janvier 2012 - 05:50
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Just to assure you that Bhryaen is not alone I also think BG1 is a better game than BG2 and that you would also miss out on a lot if you skip it. If you're only interested in power-gaming then you don't need to play BG1, but if you want to see your character develop and understand the story-line then start at the beginning.
Tutu has fewer bugs than the original BG1 so you shouldn't worry about that and if you've not played the game before you won't notice the differences in spawn behaviour.
As referred to above one common complaint about BG1 is that there is far less conversation between party members. If you feel that's an issue then install BG1 NPC Project as well.
Tutu has fewer bugs than the original BG1 so you shouldn't worry about that and if you've not played the game before you won't notice the differences in spawn behaviour.
As referred to above one common complaint about BG1 is that there is far less conversation between party members. If you feel that's an issue then install BG1 NPC Project as well.
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Posté 04 janvier 2012 - 01:36
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I also think that BG1 is worth playing. I wouldn't call it better or worse than BG2 though - I think it's just different. It's one of the reasons why I enjoy the BG games so much. If you play from the start of BG1 to the end of BG2's expansion, you get to experience different gameplay styles. BG1 feels much more open-ended and allows you to do a lot of outdoor exploration, which I think is sorely lacking in BG2. The low-level setting also makes combat quite different from what you end up doing in BG2.
That being said, I do agree that BG2 is perhaps easier to get into than BG1 in this day and age, if only because the main story is given more importance right off the bat and ends up being more engaging in my opinion. Given your background of liking PST and KotOR2, I think BG2 might be more up your alley. If you really cannot stomach BG1, then by all means give BG2 a try, but I wouldn't completely disregard BG1.
That being said, I do agree that BG2 is perhaps easier to get into than BG1 in this day and age, if only because the main story is given more importance right off the bat and ends up being more engaging in my opinion. Given your background of liking PST and KotOR2, I think BG2 might be more up your alley. If you really cannot stomach BG1, then by all means give BG2 a try, but I wouldn't completely disregard BG1.
