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[Yate]

Not sure if this has been suggested before, but here goes...

I think the Citadel Council's been indoctrinated, and that's why they haven't taken action against the Reapers.

Think about it. The 'dead' Reaper that Cerberus found was able to indoctrinate a team extremely quickly without expending any effort. And in Arrival, Kenson and company were indoctrinated by a mere beacon. So I don't think the indoctrination is an active ability, I think it's a side effect of Reaper technology.

Now, think about all those pieces of Sovereign that went flying at the end of the first game. It's mentioned that Sovereign's remains were studied. There's likely small bits of debris that's still lodged throughout the Citadel.

That got me thinking, what about other Reaper tech? Mass relays, the Citadel itself? Could it all be used for indoctrination? Remember, subjects of indoctrination are able to free themselves, at least temporarily. So something must've kept compelling the Collectors throughout the second game. Likely their ship and base, based on advanced Reaper technology with indoctrinating capabilities. Could this extend to the Citadel itself? Is it compelling the Keepers to service it through indoctrination? Is that the real reason nobody there is willing to accept the existence of the Reapers?

I think it's more than likely.

[Get Magna Carter]

no....
unlikely that council members would personally study debris and if "indoctrination" was done through the Citadel itself then the Prothean reprogramming of Keepers would have failedto keep the reapers out.
More likely the council are just scared of the possibility, don't want to start a panic, and may not want to believe. They can devise an alternative explanation so the threat isn't proven and the normal attitude of Governments is that if a threat isn't proven then whether it exists or not depends on what is convenient for their intended policy.

[DPSSOC]

Yate wrote...
Think about it. The 'dead' Reaper that Cerberus found was able to indoctrinate a team extremely quickly without expending any effort. And in Arrival, Kenson and company were indoctrinated by a mere beacon. So I don't think the indoctrination is an active ability, I think it's a side effect of Reaper technology.

Now, think about all those pieces of Sovereign that went flying at the end of the first game. It's mentioned that Sovereign's remains were studied. There's likely small bits of debris that's still lodged throughout the Citadel.

Yes the dead Reaper was able to indoctrinate the Cerberus team without effort but it was also without control.  We know that the more indoctrinated something becomes the less capable it is; were the Council effected by dead Reaper indoctrination they'd probably be reduced to drooling idiots like those Salarians in ME1 by now, along with anybody who lives on the Citadel.

Yate wrote...
That got me thinking, what about other Reaper tech? Mass relays, the Citadel itself? Could it all be used for indoctrination? Remember, subjects of indoctrination are able to free themselves, at least temporarily. So something must've kept compelling the Collectors throughout the second game. Likely their ship and base, based on advanced Reaper technology with indoctrinating capabilities.

 
Possible but unlikely, again if the Mass relays and Citadel were tools of indoctrination we would have seen signs of it in almost everybody, something likle what we saw on Feros.  Also if indoctrination is just a naturally occuring side effect of Reaper tech then our guns would be indoctrinating us and Shep would be as indoctrinated as anyone.

As for the Collectors remember that in game they had a direct line to Harbinger and prior to that the tech built into their bodies, or at least the General, probably had a programmed behaviour.  Remember the Collectors are mindless drones, there is nothing left to resist indoctrination so there is no reason to continually compel them, just give them a set of instructions to follow until they receive new ones.

Yate wrote...
Could this extend to the Citadel itself? Is it compelling the Keepers to service it through indoctrination? Is that the real reason nobody there is willing to accept the existence of the Reapers?

I'd buy this idea if Anderson didn't believe in the Reapers anymore.  If when we show up on the Citadel Anderson didn't seem to consider the Reapers a threat, or didn't believe they were real, I'd jump on this theory like a starving wolf on a wounded deer.  Remember Andersons been living and working on the Citadel for the better chunk of two years (especially if a Councillor) and the Council seemed to accept the Reaper threat at the end of ME1, any outside force that effected them would have gotten him too.

Yate wrote...
Not sure if this has been suggested before, but here goes...

I think the Citadel Council's been indoctrinated, and that's why they haven't taken action against the Reapers.

Or it could just be they're morons.  Much simpler explanation with no evidence to the contrary.

Modifié par DPSSOC, 02 janvier 2012 - 01:09 .

[expanding panic]

Yate the Collectors are no longer Protheans. They were redesigned by the reapers. They are not indoctrinated. If anything I would say its like they are robots, and not like geth like early robots. They have been programmed to do a task and they do the task until it is complete. Meanwhile if the reapers chose so they could give the collectors a new objective to complete.