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[Commander Shepard453]

Bioware

Jedi Knights lightsaber forms are mass up in-game this is how it should be.

Jedi Guardians Combat Forms:

Form I: Shii-Cho - The basic in tell the player reach level 10 (disable)
Form III: Soresu + Form V: Shien / Djem So - Advanced Defense Form
Form IV: Ataru - Advanced Form

Jedi Sentinel Combat Forms:

Form I: Shii-Cho - The basic in tell the player reach level 10 (disable)
Form III: Soresu + Form V: Shien / Djem So - Advanced Form
Form VII: Juyo - Advanced Form

Sith Warriors Lightsaber Form this is how it should be.

Sith Juggernaut Combat Forms:

Form I: Shii-Cho + Form II: Makashi - The basic in tell the player reach 10 (disable)
Form III: Soresu + Form V: Shien / Djem So - Advanced Form
Form IV: Ataru - Advanced Form

Sith Marauder Combat Forms:

Form I: Shii-Cho + Form II: Makashi - The basic in tell the player reach 10 (disable)
Form III: Soresu + Form V: Shien / Djem So - Advanced Form
Form VII: Juyo - Advanced Form

Modifié par Commander Shepard453, 03 janvier 2012 - 03:20 .

[Druss99]

You can't seriously expect continuity in Star Wars anymore. It's going to get to the point where every line of dialogue is a retconn of the previous line.

[Commander Shepard453]

Druss99 wrote...

You can't seriously expect continuity in Star Wars anymore. It's going to get to the point where every line of dialogue is a retconn of the previous line.

I'm talking about the lightsaber forms if you play the MMO the tanks and movies aren't the same plus why can't tanks have Ataru form and Soresu/ Shien for deflecting laser blast all jedi and sith should have skill.

Plus I understand what your talking about the dialogue feels like a singleplayer game instead of a MMO.

Modifié par Commander Shepard453, 03 janvier 2012 - 02:47 .

[Zanallen]

Juyo was created long before Mace Windu and Sora Bulq. They just created a new variation of the form, Vaapad. Of course, none of the lightsaber forms are hard canon as they haven't appeared in any of the films. The forms were first presented in Star Wars Insider and then further expanded upon in various books and games, notably KotOR II and now TOR.

[Commander Shepard453]

Actually lightsabers forms was in the movies the Ataru, Juyo,Soresu Form in the biggest fights of star wars

Star Wars Ep 1 - Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi utilize Ataru against Darth Maul Juyo on Naboo.

Star Wars Ep 2 - Yoda using Ataru against Count Dooku's Makashi

Star Wars Ep 3 - Obi-Wan Kenobi, utilizing Sokan, gains the high ground over Darth Vader on Mustafar.

Modifié par Commander Shepard453, 03 janvier 2012 - 03:14 .

[frustratemyself]

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Man I love starwars but wtf, the lore has just gotten so far out there...(still love the occasional game/book, but the universe has gotten so massive its impossible to make sense of it now).

[Commander Shepard453]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Man I love starwars but wtf, the lore has just gotten so far out there...(still love the occasional game/book, but the universe has gotten so massive its impossible to make sense of it now).

I know man but you have the read the books or look online for more info about star wars cause there a lot stuff that wasn't in the early movies like the lightsaber combat forms to find out how all this come together you have read The Tale Of The Jedi Series books or look it up online to understand the expanded Star Wars Universe.

[Nameless one7]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Man I love starwars but wtf, the lore has just gotten so far out there...(still love the occasional game/book, but the universe has gotten so massive its impossible to make sense of it now).

I agree, to massive to keep up with.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

On another random note, I wonder if they will make another SW movie eventually, I doubt Lucas would have much involvement in it, but I can see it being done.

Back on topic, there is way to much stuff in the SW universe, for anyone aside from the religiously devoted ones to keep track of, and I can't say I didn't try lol (I got lost almost 10+ years ago in terms of lore)

[wolfsite]

If this is a concern it would be best to post it on the SWTOR community website if it hasn't already since the Bioware members here have nothing to do with it.

[Druss99]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

On another random note, I wonder if they will make another SW movie eventually, I doubt Lucas would have much involvement in it, but I can see it being done.

Back on topic, there is way to much stuff in the SW universe, for anyone aside from the religiously devoted ones to keep track of, and I can't say I didn't try lol (I got lost almost 10+ years ago in terms of lore)

The problem isn't even the amount of stuff to keep track of, its that they keep changing stuff thats already established. Entire established characters and races can be completely changed at the drop of a hat with whoever comes along next having to clean up the mess. It is massive but it would be so much easier to keep track of if the cannon wasn't constantly changing. You could not pay attention for a few weeks then come back and discover Asaaj Ventress is now a completely different race with a new back story that not only changes her but the Dathomiri witches too. Its a bloody nightmare.

[lv12medic]

Commander Shepard453 wrote...

Actually lightsabers forms was in the movies the Ataru, Juyo,Soresu Form in the biggest fights of star wars

Star Wars Ep 1 - Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi utilize Ataru against Darth Maul Juyo on Naboo.

Star Wars Ep 2 - Yoda using Ataru against Count Dooku's Makashi

Star Wars Ep 3 - Obi-Wan Kenobi, utilizing Sokan, gains the high ground over Darth Vader on Mustafar.

I failed to hear any character in any of the movies mention any of these lightsaber form names...

Modifié par lv12medic, 03 janvier 2012 - 06:22 .

[Druss99]

lv12medic wrote...

Commander Shepard453 wrote...

Actually lightsabers forms was in the movies the Ataru, Juyo,Soresu Form in the biggest fights of star wars

Star Wars Ep 1 - Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi utilize Ataru against Darth Maul Juyo on Naboo.

Star Wars Ep 2 - Yoda using Ataru against Count Dooku's Makashi

Star Wars Ep 3 - Obi-Wan Kenobi, utilizing Sokan, gains the high ground over Darth Vader on Mustafar.

I failed to hear any character in any of the movies mention any of these lightsaber form names...

Its actually what Greedo was talking about until Han got bored and shot him, but we all know how Lucas changed it. First he made Greedo a bounty hunter and then he made him shoot first, forever ruining the scene.

[Storm Farron]

Druss99 wrote...

lv12medic wrote...

Commander Shepard453 wrote...

Actually lightsabers forms was in the movies the Ataru, Juyo,Soresu Form in the biggest fights of star wars

Star Wars Ep 1 - Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi utilize Ataru against Darth Maul Juyo on Naboo.

Star Wars Ep 2 - Yoda using Ataru against Count Dooku's Makashi

Star Wars Ep 3 - Obi-Wan Kenobi, utilizing Sokan, gains the high ground over Darth Vader on Mustafar.

I failed to hear any character in any of the movies mention any of these lightsaber form names...

Its actually what Greedo was talking about until Han got bored and shot him, but we all know how Lucas changed it. First he made Greedo a bounty hunter and then he made him shoot first, forever ruining the scene.

how was the scene ruined?. Han shooting first made him look like a complete dick. I'm glad they changed it.

[RPGamer13]

So, you're saying they're screwed up based on lore?

Oh... I thought this was about how it's screwed up that you have to be at certain levels to unlock them. I only played the beta and as soon as I turned Sith Warrior, I expected to be able to use a new form from the get-go. Oh, and the one I wanted to use, wasn't even in the buyable ability list at all...

[Commander Shepard453]

wolfsite wrote...

If this is a concern it would be best to post it on the SWTOR community website if it hasn't already since the Bioware members here have nothing to do with it.

First of all, you need a Subscription to post anything on Swtor forums which to me is ridiculous so there is no way to access the star wars the old republic web forums unless people have the subscription code for the game but i was a beta tester and I watch people play it on justin tv the same build that beta testers had before releasing the game.
 

[Commander Shepard453]

RPGamer13 wrote...

So, you're saying they're screwed up based on lore?

Oh... I thought this was about how it's screwed up that you have to be at certain levels to unlock them. I only played the beta and as soon as I turned Sith Warrior, I expected to be able to use a new form from the get-go. Oh, and the one I wanted to use, wasn't even in the buyable ability list at all...

Its because bioware didn't do enough research before making this MMO like what they did with Kotor and Kotor 2 if developers would had done some more research of The Tale of the Jedi series books to really fix the lightsaber forms and Jedi's / Sith combat styles.

[Homebound]

uuuh..sshouldnt this be in the swtor boards?

[Commander Shepard453]

Hellbound555 wrote...

uuuh..sshouldnt this be in the swtor boards?

Again, you must have a Subscription to access the Star Wars The Old Republic web forums.

Modifié par Commander Shepard453, 04 janvier 2012 - 10:59 .

[Commander Shepard453]

Bioware





Jedi Knights
lightsaber forms are mass up in-game this is how it should be.



Jedi Guardians Combat Forms:



Form I: Shii-Cho - The basic combat form in tell the player reach level 10
(disable)



Form III: Soresu - Advanced Jedi Guardian


Form V: Shien / Djem So - Advanced Jedi Guardian



Form IV: Ataru - Advanced Jedi Guardian




Jedi Sentinel Combat Forms:


Form I: Shii-Cho - The basic combat form in tell the player
reach level 10 (disable)



Form III: Soresu - Advanced Jedi Sentinel


Form V: Shien / Djem So - Advanced Jedi Sentinel



Form VII: Juyo - Advanced Jedi Sentinel




Sith Warriors Lightsaber Form this is how it should be.



Sith Juggernaut Combat Forms:



Form I: Shii-Cho - The
basic combat form in tell the player reach 10 (disable)


Form II: Makashi - Advanced Sith Juggernaut



Form III: Soresu - Advanced Sith Juggernaut


Form V: Shien /Djem So - Advanced Sith Juggernaut



Form IV: Ataru - Advanced Form





Sith Marauder Combat Forms:



Form I: Shii-Cho -The basic combat form in tell the player
reach 10 (disable)


Form II: Makashi - Advanced Sith Marauder



Form III: Soresu - Advanced Sith Marauder


Form V: Shien / Djem So - Advanced Sith Marauder



Form VII: Juyo - Advanced Form




Jedi Consular Shadow / Sith Inquisitor Assassin Lightsaber
Form and Powers

Jedi  Shadow Combat
Forms and Powers:

Form I: Shii-Cho – The basic combat form in tell the player
reach 10 (disable)



Form V: Shien and Djem So - Advanced Jedi Shadow


Form VI: Niman – Advanced Jedi Shadow 



Powers: Battle Meditation – Advanced Jedi Shadow




Sith Assassin Combat Forms and Powers:

Form I: Shii-Cho - The basic combat form in tell the
player reach 10 (disable)



Form II: Makashi – Advanced Sith Assassin




Form VI: Niman – Advanced Sith Assassin




Power: Sith Battle Coordination –
Advanced Power

[frustratemyself]

OP if you're not actually playing the game why are you so bothered by this?

[chunkyman]

I predict people quoting the above post without bothering to delete the images lol.

[Commander Shepard453]

frustratemyself wrote...

OP if you're not actually playing the game why are you so bothered by this?

Because i was in the beta and bioware never fix the lightsaber combat forms but they got the shooting matics right.

Modifié par Commander Shepard453, 06 janvier 2012 - 01:39 .

[RPGamer13]

Commander Shepard453 wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

So, you're saying they're screwed up based on lore?

Oh... I thought this was about how it's screwed up that you have to be at certain levels to unlock them. I only played the beta and as soon as I turned Sith Warrior, I expected to be able to use a new form from the get-go. Oh, and the one I wanted to use, wasn't even in the buyable ability list at all...

Its because bioware didn't do enough research before making this MMO like what they did with Kotor and Kotor 2 if developers would had done some more research of The Tale of the Jedi series books to really fix the lightsaber forms and Jedi's / Sith combat styles.

I'm talking strictly based off the perspective of gameplay, it doesn't make sense gameplay wise to lock the forms for later levels.  I'd understand if they were upgrades to another form, but they are not.