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[Darth Wraith]

AwesomeName wrote...

I can't see anywhere where it says the extra character/mission is CE exclusive.

It does, sort of...

If you look at the main ME3 site, under "collector's edition" there's a picture of all the content and a text listing of said content below the picture. In the picture it says, "Also includes additional downloadable mission and character". However, in the text version below the picture no mention is made of either mission or character.

Here's the link: http://www.masseffec...ame/collectors/

[jcolt]

good then hopefully i can sell the artbook later on and make my money back plus some i might look at it a couple times unless its in a sealed package or somethin

[aj2070]

Severyx wrote...

This entire thread has coursed into irrelevancy. People need to understand that adding exclusive content to a more expensive collector's edition is incentive and gives credibility to paying more for the game. I find it amusing that everyone thinks that they should be granted the same everything. Sorry, that's never been how the world works. BioWare/EA isn't 'screwing' you out of anything - it's a bonus for those fans dedicated enough to go out of their way to pay more for the content.

A collector's edition wouldn't be a collector's edition if everyone could have it. Derp.

Completely agree.  Besides, its not like Bioware is going to give away the collector's edtion content for free to people who bought standard edition anyway.  You'd still have to pay for it and the $20 difference is only slightly more than the mission/ character DLC and weapons pack would cost; using Lair of the Shadow Broker (800 MS/Bioware points, roughly $10) and either any alternative apperance pack, firepower pack, or Aegis pack (160 MS/Bioware points, roughly $4) as estimate points.  At best, you are $5 away from the collector's edition anyway.

A plausable option would involve Bioware offering an upgrade to the digital deluxe version.  I can confirm they allow that option with "The Old Republic".  I got a hard copy of the standard edition and as soon as it was verified, I got an offer to pay $20 to upgrade. 

Point is that griping aside, Bioware is not going to give away the collector's edition content for free and there is little incentive for them to offer it at a "discount" because people chose to purchase the standard edition.  I have a feeling the additional character is going to be a Zaeed/Kasumi add-on; they will further enrich the story but ther loss does not take away from the main story.  If you want to be sure you get the additional character/ story, purchase the collector's edition, don't depend on Bioware's charity.

Modifié par aj2070, 04 janvier 2012 - 04:54 .

[SNascimento]

If I buy the collector's edition for the PC, do the bonus carry over to the Xbox 360?

[shinobi602]

SNascimento wrote...

If I buy the collector's edition for the PC, do the bonus carry over to the Xbox 360?

No.

[SNascimento]

Fantastic.

[BAOBAB_AOTEAROA]

I would like to point out that the extra mission and character are NOT listed as an EXCLUSIVE content of the Collector's edition of ME3 ( see the image regarding the CE ME3 in amazon).
All other content is specifically indicated as exclusive.

There are 2 possibilities:
1. The new character is a kind of cerberus network bounus content (you have to buy me new to have me)
2.The new character is day one DLC but you have to pay for it

[PnXMarcin1PL]

SNascimento wrote...

If I buy the collector's edition for the PC, do the bonus carry over to the Xbox 360?

i think they wont carry over lol

[aj2070]

SNascimento wrote...

If I buy the collector's edition for the PC, do the bonus carry over to the Xbox 360?

Assuming Bioware runs the same process for content registration in Mass Effect 3 as they did in 2, no.  I looked at my registered content and every paid for dlc package is strictly tied to the platform you buy it for.

[SNascimento]

aj2070 wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

If I buy the collector's edition for the PC, do the bonus carry over to the Xbox 360?

Assuming Bioware runs the same process for content registration in Mass Effect 3 as they did in 2, no.  I looked at my registered content and every paid for dlc package is strictly tied to the platform you buy it for.

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The collector amor and weapon did carry over... same thing with the draon age armor. Guess it was only that then. 

[aj2070]

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA wrote...

I would like to point out that the extra mission and character are NOT listed as an EXCLUSIVE content of the Collector's edition of ME3 ( see the image regarding the CE ME3 in amazon).
All other content is specifically indicated as exclusive.

There are 2 possibilities:
1. The new character is a kind of cerberus network bounus content (you have to buy me new to have me)
2.The new character is day one DLC but you have to pay for it

Let me start by saying if Bioware offers the CE mission and character for purchase to standard edition customers, I am happy for y'all.

However In a situation like this, I would go with the publisher's information on a product, not a reseller.  While the word "exclusive" does not in fact appear in front of the bullet point about the mission and character, I would also like to point out "early access" is also missing.  Looking at the Bioware information on the collector's edition, "exclusive" does not appear before the Dark Horse Comic entry either but I am sure it will be limited to the collector's edition.

[rabidhanar]

They edited out the info on the extra character on purpose guys...
Yes, this character is going to be available. No, it will not make any difference in the main plot besides a couple lines and a few extra missions. Whether or not you will need to purchase said character later with the standard edition is to be announced.

No it was not "Cut" content out of the standard game. Looking in the coding of ME2 and you will spot parts of the Zaeed and Kasumi DLCs that are unfinished. They could not finish them off prior to release, so they finished the DLC after mass production and sold them as DLC. Without that final part, the coding is garbage. There are even more unfinished coding on the disk for multiple situations (see the thread on the ME2 sectoin for more information). People harp on and on about malicious cutting of material for profit out of the game, it doesn't work like that all the time. When it takes time to finish coding material after the game is already being put onto the disks, you have Day 1 DLC.

In my opinion these exclusive CE items are going to be: The Weapons, robot dog, N7 Hoodie, Art Book, lithograph, and N7 patch. The Dark Horse Comic is going to be "different" then the normal edition for it, but Comic books will still sell the exact same storyline. it will likely have a special edition Artwork on the front of it or something like that. I see no problem with keeping these items exclusive: we had a similar experience with ME2's Collectors Edition.

Modifié par rabidhanar, 04 janvier 2012 - 06:29 .

[Candidate 88766]

Wulfram wrote...

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I think that there is an established price range for computer games, and that having to pay for the DLC would put ME3 well in excess of that price.  I also think that Bioware has acted dishonestly in the past about it's DLC policy, and is treating its customers with contempt, which makes me want to give them as little of my money as is practical.  And if we keep swallowing worse and worse deals from Bioware, we'll keep getting less and less for our money.

The hell are you talking about?

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 04 janvier 2012 - 06:33 .

[Relix28]

Mesina2 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Currently, we have no plans to make the CE material downloadable unless you purchase the CE. This could change in the future, but we have no plans to do so currently.

You did allow PS3 users to buy every single piece of ME2 DLC's.

Why not for PC and XBOX360?



And why not give option to buy DLC items that were exclusive to CE or pre-order to certain retailers in following months or year?



You'll gain more money.
It's win-win for everyone.

Don't waste your time trying to reason with these people. Many of us have tried it before. It doesn't work.
It's like trying to find common sense in bureaucracy.

[chance52]

Severyx wrote...

This entire thread has coursed into irrelevancy. People need to understand that adding exclusive content to a more expensive collector's edition is incentive and gives credibility to paying more for the game. I find it amusing that everyone thinks that they should be granted the same everything. Sorry, that's never been how the world works. BioWare/EA isn't 'screwing' you out of anything - it's a bonus for those fans dedicated enough to go out of their way to pay more for the content.

A collector's edition wouldn't be a collector's edition if everyone could have it. Derp.

Actually it used to work that way for everyone. You think Super Nintendo games were sold in installments?  Or that PS1 games sold at Best Buy gave you different items than those you bought at Toy's-R-Us? Every customer got the same content sold in a single purchase, not in pieces over a year with things left out because they bought it at the wrong store.

This has been going on for some years and is getting progressively worse, doesn't mean it was always the case.  This is why so many people praised The Witcher 2, aside from the game itself, which you either liked or didn't, that they said point blank everyone gets everything after paying once for our game.  And so far they have released I believe 9 different item packs/quests/etc.

Modifié par chance52, 04 janvier 2012 - 07:18 .

[daftPirate]

Relix28 wrote...

Don't waste your time trying to reason with these people. Many of us have tried it before. It doesn't work.
It's like trying to find common sense in bureaucracy.

Priestly is hardly the long, shot-calling arm of BW law. While I haven't been here long, I think there's bound to have been times he agreed with the community. But his job is Community Coordinator. Being a BW employee doesn't grant any say in what goes on with the company.

Modifié par daftPirate, 04 janvier 2012 - 07:03 .

[Relix28]

daftPirate wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Don't waste your time trying to reason with these people. Many of us have tried it before. It doesn't work.
It's like trying to find common sense in bureaucracy.

Priestly is hardly the long, shot-calling arm of BW law. While I haven't been here long, I think there's bound to have been times he agreed with the community. But his job is Community Coordinator. Being a BW employee doesn't grant any say in what goes on with the company.

It wasn't aimed at Chris Priestly directly, but at EAware in general, where they have a tendency to ignore most of the sound ideas and suggestions people come up with (like the one from Mesina2 for instance).

[OmegaBlue0231]

Severyx wrote...

This entire thread has coursed into irrelevancy. People need to understand that adding exclusive content to a more expensive collector's edition is incentive and gives credibility to paying more for the game. I find it amusing that everyone thinks that they should be granted the same everything. Sorry, that's never been how the world works. BioWare/EA isn't 'screwing' you out of anything - it's a bonus for those fans dedicated enough to go out of their way to pay more for the content.

A collector's edition wouldn't be a collector's edition if everyone could have it. Derp.

QFT

Like I said before, it's like someone who orders a small wants as much as someone who got a large.

[ODST 5723]

I look at it more as buying an extra value meal when there's a promo for a collector's glass for $1.99 more. You and your buddy both buy the meal, but you opt for the glass.  You're both paying for the extra value meal and getting the same meal. Your buddy misses out on the glass.  They don't have to sell the glass separately, so he may be SOL..

A small and a large implies that you're missing out on vital content. This, like the collector's glass, is bonus content in the form of swag and visual flair.

Modifié par ODST 5723, 04 janvier 2012 - 08:21 .

[OmegaBlue0231]

ODST 5723 wrote...

I look at it more as buying an extra value meal when there's a promo for a collector's glass for $1.99 more. You're both paying for the extra value meal and getting the same meal. The guy who choses not to pay $1.99 simply misses out on the glass.

A small and a large implies that you're missing out on vital content. This, like the collector's glass, is bonus content in the form of swag and visual flair.

Hmm, yeah that way works too.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

The PLC wrote...

Because it's impossible to get your hands on here in Denmark. I think that Game is the only retailer selling it here in Scandinavia, and all of the Game stores was closed down here in September. That, and it's ridiculously expensive.

And the CE is already getting more than enough extra stuff. What DA2 did with Sebastian, making people without the 'regular' edition pay extra on day one, was inexcusable, and I honestly expected the ME team to be better than that. Perhaps I was wrong.

That was your fault for not pre-ordering the game. Bioware gave EVERYONE that had a pre-order going into the last month before the game came out an upgrade to the BSE version of the game, meaning that if you pre-ordered expecting nothing at all you got a steal from the Bioware literally giving away the DLC, as the BSE upgrade that everyone got before Jan 2011 did not increase what we had to pay for it.

As for the ME3 CE, from all of the promotional material I have seen for it right now, there is no extra character/missions listed as part of the bonuses, which means if there is going to be a DLC character added to the squad, it may possiblly be part of the CN replacement that we will be getting with ME3

And to get to those that think that the CE stuff should be made available later, that would be insulting to the people that went out of their way to get the CE, as it would no longer have that collectors feel to it if everyone had the stuff. Considering that ME2's Collector Armor/Rifle set hasnt been released yet for us to use, or the Gamestop Terminus/Blackstorm set, it seems like Bioware is at least trying to give the people that chose to get their game through GS or spend the extra money on the CE the exclusivity that they wanted in the first place.

[kregano]

Sora Kitano wrote...
And to get to those that think that the CE stuff should be made available later, that would be insulting to the people that went out of their way to get the CE, as it would no longer have that collectors feel to it if everyone had the stuff. Considering that ME2's Collector Armor/Rifle set hasnt been released yet for us to use, or the Gamestop Terminus/Blackstorm set, it seems like Bioware is at least trying to give the people that chose to get their game through GS or spend the extra money on the CE the exclusivity that they wanted in the first place.

I'm getting the bloody CE and I don't have any problem with the CE guns being released later, mostly because I feel that if you're going to giving people pre-order bonuses, you should at least try to make it so that sets of items stay together, so that people don't wind up with only part of the set, which always leads to complaints. If Bioware had stuck the N7 rifle in with the CE and only gave Gamestop the Defender armor as the exclusive, no one would complain because everyone who got the CE would have the whole set of guns and everyone who got the regular edition from GameStop wouldn't have 1/5 of a matching set of guns, just a standalone armor set and the Argus.