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[chunkyman]

Walker White wrote...

Okay, of all of the complaints about DA2, that is not what I was expecting.  I just don't know what to say about this other than I don't understand how you could consider any modern BioWare game from KOTOR onward to be an RPG.

DA:O is a wonderful RPG, it has all of the features I listed implemented into the game quite well IMO.

Here is a list of some of the games I consider an RPG (this is not all of them).

- DA:O 

- KOTOR

- Oblivion

- Morrowind



Hope that helps.

[billy the squid]

I foresee the coming response upon release regarding RPG elements.

P.S I will not post anything this silly again, well maybe not today at least.

[tetrisblock4x1]

RPGs are about counting numbers
Mass Effect is about shooting things

[mkk316]

billy the squid wrote...

I foresee the coming response upon release regarding RPG elements.

P.S I will not post anything this silly again, well maybe not today at least.

omg, im dying. LMAO

[AgitatedLemon]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

RPGs are about counting numbers
Mass Effect is about shooting things

Funny, I always thought RPG meant Role Playing Game.

You know, where you make a character and interact with people. Kinda like in Mass Effect.

[chunkyman]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Why if it isn't this topic again.

The only thing more common than this topic is this comment.

Modifié par chunkyman, 03 janvier 2012 - 05:22 .

[tetrisblock4x1]

MrCry0 wrote...

Not RPG as in numbarz. A little RPG as in character development. A lot of RPG as in choosing your own story and a vast universe to explore. The gameplay is action, though.

Choosing your own story is more an adventure thing. Besides, you don't choose your story, you choose a personality type, on a conversttion by conversation basis. Mass Effect has no long term repurcussions or or paths for either personality or choice. I want to be wrong, I really do, but after Bioware half assed attempt at respecting player choices of the first Mass Effect well I have no choice but to be cynical about part 3.

[tetrisblock4x1]

double post

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 03 janvier 2012 - 05:25 .

[log1x_dr4g0n]

billy the squid wrote...

I foresee the coming response upon release regarding RPG elements.

P.S I will not post anything this silly again, well maybe not today at least.

lmao.

[AgitatedLemon]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

RPGs are about counting numbers
Mass Effect is about shooting things

Funny, I always thought RPG meant Role Playing Game.

You know, where you make a character and interact with people. Kinda like in Mass Effect.

I used to play make believe too, but then I turned 12.

I used to troll people, until I realized how retarded it made me look.

*Cough*

[Il Divo]

chunkyman wrote...

AndrewRogue wrote...

How on earth is DA2 not an RPG? At least playing PC, the game is pretty much straight in the BG/2/DA vein.

To accurately answer your question, we'll need to understand the strange criteria you are using to define RPG.

I don't consider DA2 an RPG because I can't role play, at all. An RPG is a game that easily facilitates role playing. This can be achieved through things like branching dialogue, multiple outcomes of the plot and consequences to your character's choices, altering the statistics of our character, customizing his looks and gear, and a few other things like that. DA2 is lacking in all of these compartments, and so my ability to role play in that game is borderline non-existant.

Honestly, DA2 has all the things you listed. It just doesn't do them well, which differentiates between a good RPG and a bad RPG. If an fps has bad shooting mechanics, do we really say it's not an fps?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Hi dear friend. Both Mass Effects are great games and I mostly agree with Khevan's first comment. (Action-)RPG somewhat like Dragon Age: Origins but with more fun, not like old school RPGs. In ME1 you have lots of weapons and skill options, in ME2 you have many conversation and choice-consequence options.

Don't listen to this whining about you can't open a lock or hack a simple terminal.

[N7Raider]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

MrCry0 wrote...

Not RPG as in numbarz. A little RPG as in character development. A lot of RPG as in choosing your own story and a vast universe to explore. The gameplay is action, though.

Choosing your own story is more an adventure thing. Besides, you don't choose your story, you choose a personality type, on a conversttion by conversation basis. Mass Effect has no long term repurcussions or or paths for either personality or choice. I want to be wrong, I really do, but after Bioware half assed attempt at respecting player choices of the first Mass Effect well I have no choice but to be cynical about part 3.

Oh hooray, more pointless cynisim and more assumptions that you're right based off of the little that we've seen of the game!  I love these forums!
And here's a definition of RPG's you have now been enlightened.  
(2) Short for r[/b]ole-p[/b]laying g[/b]ame, [/i]it is a game genre where one or more players adopt a role and act it out in a virtual reality. Usually in an RPG game, you will set out on an adventure or quest, and multiplayer RPG games allows gamers to complete these quests with other gamers as allies over the Internet or as aLAN game.

[nitefyre410]

and now the endless debate.. that will never end starts again. 

Il Divo wrote...



Honestly, DA2 has all the things you

listed. It just doesn't do them well, which differentiates between a

good RPG and a bad RPG. If an fps has bad shooting mechanics, do we

really say it's not an fps?

 



No
because we hate fps they are just for stupid frat boys the "COD crowd"
and are too easy for use hardcore game players. They are are made for
the simple minded console players (Ingoring the fact the who FPS  gerne
and Mutliplayer was made possible by  what PC could do at the of  time
Doom and  the interent) 



So we  dismiss this logic  because it
make sense but does not allow us  re-affrim our notions of the evil EA 
and  catering to the dumb COD  crowd.  



sarcasm aside.





No we don't becasue that would not make any sense.







 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 janvier 2012 - 05:38 .

[log1x_dr4g0n]

nitefyre410 wrote...

and now the endless debate.. that will never end starts again.

Only on the BSN...

Now here's [insert poster here] with the weather.

[tetrisblock4x1]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

RPGs are about counting numbers
Mass Effect is about shooting things

Funny, I always thought RPG meant Role Playing Game.

You know, where you make a character and interact with people. Kinda like in Mass Effect.

I
used to play make believe too, but then I turned 12. People play make
believe in real life too you know. They call it LARPing, or live action
role playing. It's much better than larping in mass effect, because
you're improving your social life by interacting with real people, and
you aren't restricted by the amount of money Bioware is willing to put
on the choices and the cinematic budget.

N7Raider wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

MrCry0 wrote...

Not RPG as in numbarz. A little RPG as in character development. A lot of RPG as in choosing your own story and a vast universe to explore. The gameplay is action, though.

Choosing your own story is more an adventure thing. Besides, you don't choose your story, you choose a personality type, on a conversttion by conversation basis. Mass Effect has no long term repurcussions or or paths for either personality or choice. I want to be wrong, I really do, but after Bioware half assed attempt at respecting player choices of the first Mass Effect well I have no choice but to be cynical about part 3.

Oh hooray, more pointless cynisim and more assumptions that you're right based off of the little that we've seen of the game!  I love these forums!
And here's a definition of RPG's you have now been enlightened.  
(2) Short for r[/b]ole-p[/b]laying g[/b]ame, [/i]it is a game genre where one or more players adopt a role and act it out in a virtual reality. Usually in an RPG game, you will set out on an adventure or quest, and multiplayer RPG games allows gamers to complete these quests with other gamers as allies over the Internet or as aLAN game.

Like I said, it's based off of Biowares long history of game developement. If you can't understand that then I have nothing else to say to you.

[Savber100]

nitefyre410 wrote...

and now the endless debate.. that will never end starts again.

Five dollars that this will end up with Gatt9 duking it out with Phaedon again with the possibility of L.S. joining the fray. 


Guys... Just answer the OP's question and move on. 

You will NOT persuade anyone on the INTERNET. Go work on better stuff like talking a walk or reading or book. Better yet, go play a game rather than bicker on the definition of RPGs. 

OP has stated his (or her) tastes. Give your opinion about whether he'll like ME 1+2 and leave it at that. 

Modifié par Savber100, 03 janvier 2012 - 05:29 .

[chunkyman]

Il Divo wrote...

Honestly, DA2 has all the things you listed. It just doesn't do them well, which differentiates between a good RPG and a bad RPG. If an fps has bad shooting mechanics, do we really say it's not an fps?

That's a good point.

I guess I would have to call DA2 an RPG that I can't role play in. 

[Il Divo]

Savber100 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

and now the endless debate.. that will never end starts again.

Five dollars that this will end up with Gatt9 duking it out with Phaedon again with the possibility of L.S. joining the fray. 

Who would bet against those odds?

Modifié par Il Divo, 03 janvier 2012 - 05:28 .