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[rabidhanar]

Does anyone still happen to have those old scripst hidden away somewhere? >.>
So little info has come out about the storyline that I want to read the "worst" the game has to offer. If you do, I would be quite welcome for a PM about it.

Yes I know that I will be spoiled (derp), I know that I am not allowed to speak about the unholy leaked bata in the forums, and that some or even most of the data on the leaks could be outdated. I am simply interested in the material academically. I will not get on here all teary eyed and call Bioware a bunch of monsters or other such nonsense.

Some of the stressing and the complaining is indeed getting tiresome but so are some of the Bioware Defenders rushing to the scenes to refute all arguments. I do not have an opinion on the matter myself until I have read the leaks with my own two eyes.

Chris Priestly and Company: if asking about this leak is not acceptable, would you kindly PM me about it before changing my post? This thread could be dropped to the bottom of the list before I get the chance to spot the admin edit.

Modifié par rabidhanar, 03 janvier 2012 - 10:47 .

[Seboist]

squee365 wrote...

That all the choices from the first two games all the sudden don't matter any more? Is it because of lack of information on the plot? I'm sorry but I don't think BW wants to spoil everyone on the plot... I really do want to know where people got this idea though that ME3 is a linear game with 1 ending and all the choices made don't matter at all? 

I know right? Where did they get that from? It's not like you can't side with Cerberus or have to fight the Rachni or Geth no matter what...... oh wait.

[Kaiser Shepard]

legion999 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

squee365 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...


My already low expectations were anything but unrealistic, hun.

Why the F*** are you here?

Why are you here? Shouldn't you be making silly Youtube videos or something?

Also, why do you people always resort to immature retorts like that?

For some reason that reminded me of Lorik Qui'in..

Always a pleasure.

[mybudgee]

Everyone take it easy on each other. Jesus, some of us are a bit immature. Those retorts are all we can think of, wit comes with age after all.
Personally, I am putting a LOT of eggs in the ME3 basket. I have been a Bioware fanatic for about a decade, and I Have been seldom disappointed. Dragon age II was a particularly low blow, and then the Kinect/Mp news made for more concern. I still have faith in this final chapter of the SHep saga...but not much

[GodWood]

N7Raider wrote...
You provided one where the renegade choice didn't matter, one where cerberus turns against you because this is still Bioware's game and they have a set story they want to tell

And as the audience I'm free to criticise it if I believe it was executed poorly. 

And I meant the one who died, I was more concerned with trying to figure out how to get the text hidden.  

Oh. I don't know who you heard that from. Trust me, that's bs.

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I'm curious as to how someone can actually SUPPORT Cerberus, knowing how they operate.

One can support their desires for human independance and preservation in an alien dominated galaxy.
One can support their desire to overthrow the oppressive Council race hegemony in favour of a galaxy that supports our interests.
One can see them as a valuable ally in the coming Reaper invasion.

It's not that hard to fathom.

[Cancer Puppet]

I think there is some genuine concern over this after ME2's lack of consequence and weak story, and from Bioware's apparent focus on combat and making sure that, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Mass Effect 3 is the best place to start for players new to the franchise." Furthermore, some of David Silverman's comments definitely rubbed some people the wrong way.

[squee365]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

I think there is some genuine concern over this after ME2's lack of consequence and weak story, and from Bioware's apparent focus on combat and making sure that, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Mass Effect 3 is the best place to start for players new to the franchise." Furthermore, some of David Silverman's comments definitely rubbed some people the wrong way.

I loved Mass Effect 2.

[N7Raider]

Seboist wrote...

squee365 wrote...

That all the choices from the first two games all the sudden don't matter any more? Is it because of lack of information on the plot? I'm sorry but I don't think BW wants to spoil everyone on the plot... I really do want to know where people got this idea though that ME3 is a linear game with 1 ending and all the choices made don't matter at all? 

I know right? Where did they get that from? It's not like you can't side with Cerberus or have to fight the Rachni or Geth no matter what...... oh wait.

I know right?  Bioware should've just used their unlimited resources and stock piles of cash they were originally gonna burn to make ME3 how you want it..... oh wait.  

[AlexXIV]

GodWood wrote...
One can support their desires for human independance and preservation in an alien dominated galaxy.
One can support their desire to overthrow the oppressive Council race hegemony in favour of a galaxy that supports our interests.
One can see them as a valuable ally in the coming Reaper invasion.

It's not that hard to fathom.

Because having a human councilor isn't a step towards independence.
Because a human Councilor doesn't ensure that the Council does not oppress humans ... or anyone actually (they don't).
Because Cerberus is a more valueable than the galaxy's most powerful races/fleets.

Racist propaganda tbh.

[Seboist]

N7Raider wrote...

Seboist wrote...

squee365 wrote...

That all the choices from the first two games all the sudden don't matter any more? Is it because of lack of information on the plot? I'm sorry but I don't think BW wants to spoil everyone on the plot... I really do want to know where people got this idea though that ME3 is a linear game with 1 ending and all the choices made don't matter at all? 

I know right? Where did they get that from? It's not like you can't side with Cerberus or have to fight the Rachni or Geth no matter what...... oh wait.

I know right?  Bioware should've just used their unlimited resources and stock piles of cash they were originally gonna burn to make ME3 how you want it..... oh wait.  

'Cuz it's too much work to create one map where I can choose to fight for the Geth or the Quarians with minimal difference in assets.

[GodWood]

N7Raider wrote...
I know right?  Bioware should've just used their unlimited resources and stock piles of cash they were originally gonna burn to make ME3 how you want it..... oh wait.  

Exactly. Bioware's resources a finite and they decided to spend them on more important things like more romance options.


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[N7Raider]

[quote]GodWood wrote...

[/quote]And as the audience I'm free to criticise it if I believe it was executed poorly. [quote]
[/quote]
[[/quote]

I know, but you were criicising it as a choice not as a plot point.  

[N7Raider]

Seboist wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Seboist wrote...

squee365 wrote...

That all the choices from the first two games all the sudden don't matter any more? Is it because of lack of information on the plot? I'm sorry but I don't think BW wants to spoil everyone on the plot... I really do want to know where people got this idea though that ME3 is a linear game with 1 ending and all the choices made don't matter at all? 

I know right? Where did they get that from? It's not like you can't side with Cerberus or have to fight the Rachni or Geth no matter what...... oh wait.

I know right?  Bioware should've just used their unlimited resources and stock piles of cash they were originally gonna burn to make ME3 how you want it..... oh wait.  

'Cuz it's too much work to create one map where I can choose to fight for the Geth or the Quarians with minimal difference in assets.

I don't even know what you're talking about, I didn't read the leak I don't wanna know.  

[Seboist]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

GodWood wrote...
I guess it was an unrealistic for me to believe Bioware would handle choices with a sense of moral greyness and not give into fan pandering.

After all the Cerberus dick-bouncing, I don't care. They're getting exactly what they deserve.

I'm curious as to how someone can actually SUPPORT Cerberus, knowing how they operate.

TIM was my femshep's sugar daddy throughout ME2 providing her with a luxury frigate complete with her own personal doctor and chef. He won her over needless to say. <3

[mybudgee]

Yes, I too always felt that Silverman was condescending as hell

[GodWood]

AlexXIV wrote...
Racist propaganda tbh.

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for human Children!

[Seboist]

GodWood wrote...

N7Raider wrote...
I know right?  Bioware should've just used their unlimited resources and stock piles of cash they were originally gonna burn to make ME3 how you want it..... oh wait.  

Exactly. Bioware's resources a finite and they decided to spend them on more important things like more romance options.

....

Crappy romances that consist of a few brief conversations and a one minute dry humping scene are very integral to the ME experience.

[Someone With Mass]

mybudgee wrote...

Yes, I too always felt that Silverman was condescending as hell

Isn't that sort of his job, though?

[Abraham_uk]

squee365 wrote...

That all the choices from the first two games all the sudden don't matter any more? Is it because of lack of information on the plot? I'm sorry but I don't think BW wants to spoil everyone on the plot... I really do want to know where people got this idea though that ME3 is a linear game with 1 ending and all the choices made don't matter at all? 

People read the leaked script. Really who reads a script unless they're studying it for School, performing in a piece of theatre or for a film/TV series. I've read a couple of scripts without such a motivation and have found them quite dull to read.

Secondly, it was an incomplete script that was going through the process of editing. Editing meaning adding loads of new stuff, cutting loads of stuff, changing bits of dialogue etc.

Come one people of Bioware Social Network. Please explain how people can review a game that has NOT BEEN MADE YET!!!!!

[Savber100]

GodWood wrote...

One can support their desires for human independance and preservation in an alien dominated galaxy.
One can support their desire to overthrow the oppressive Council race hegemony in favour of a galaxy that supports our interests.
One can see them as a valuable ally in the coming Reaper invasion.

It's not that hard to fathom.

But doesn't several of the endings in the leaked script allow you to fulfill the wishes of TIM's plan? Besides for the third point, I don't see how the leaked beta takes a dump at pro-Cerberus players. 

A pro-human ending IS still possible. The lack of Cerberus support doesn't change that,. 

Modifié par Savber100, 03 janvier 2012 - 11:03 .

[mcneil_1]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

I think there is some genuine concern over this after ME2's lack of consequence and weak story, and from Bioware's apparent focus on combat and making sure that, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Mass Effect 3 is the best place to start for players new to the franchise." Furthermore, some of David Silverman's comments definitely rubbed some people the wrong way.

I think you are right (and looking at some of the responses in the pulse threads, David somehow manages to get some people here a bit riled up)

[Someone With Mass]

GodWood wrote...
One can support their desires for human independance and preservation in an alien dominated galaxy.
One can support their desire to overthrow the oppressive Council race hegemony in favour of a galaxy that supports our interests.
One can see them as a valuable ally in the coming Reaper invasion.

It's not that hard to fathom.

At least, they are saying that they're doing these things. Which isn't biased at all.

[Pleasureslave]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I'm curious as to how someone can actually SUPPORT Cerberus, knowing how they operate.

You remind me of people who created several petitions to remove ALL "evil" choices from Dragon Age: Oriogins, like - deals with demons, supporting Behlen, siding with werewolfs and desecration of ashes.
I would recommend you to stay away from games with choices that you coincider "evil"...and from RPG genre at all.

[GodWood]

Savber100 wrote...
But doesn't several of the endings in the leaked script allow you to fulfill the wishes of TIM's plan? Besides for the third point, I don't see how the leaked beta takes a dump at pro-Cerberus players. 

We're railroaded against them no matter what, 40% of our enemies are Cerberus agents and Bioware goes out of their way to turn Cerberus from 'morally grey organization' to 'pure eeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiilllll' all the while retconning every bad thing from the past two games to be their fault.