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#101
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Cthulhu42 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Manshep is the only real soldier, though. Femshep should realistically stay behind friendly lines to breed more future soldiers.


Oh wow. Nice one. THAT won't light any fires...

I think most people will realize that's just Kaiser being himself, and not worry about it.

At least he's honest.

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*Cackles madly while eating turtle soup* I like where this thread is going, good show OP, good show, give people more things to post about how insane and degrading this place is.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Manshep is the only real soldier, though. Femshep should realistically stay behind friendly lines to breed more future soldiers.


Oh wow. Nice one. THAT won't light any fires...


  I think he did a fine job of making fun of how femshep was absolutely terrible like a drunken prom date.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

Is there enough racial/sexual diversity in games? No..

Does the lack of diversity equate to racist, sexist, etc? No.

But should there be diversity? Yes.

And in your opinion, what is the reason for the lack of diversity?

 


Okay  I have one of many answers  to that question  - not going to touch on it  just  yet

Once the reason why I think peope  and gamers a mainly so defesive one this because the medium is under attack wrongfully or rightfullly it is always under attack.   Racist and Sexist  calling somebody those  terms carries some pretty  negative image that comes to mind. KK K, Slavery, Female circumsiziton(SP),etc,etc. So the knee jerk   reaction from on anywho  for the better part of there life has lived a good life and did their best not to be preducial person  is  auto-defensive.  

In general  artist or those who create make characters that are in way reflective of themselves - not a really problem... Now couple this with those who dominate the main leading creative and developing positions making a games today( Save a few  Jade Raymond  comes to mind)   and  there you  have it. Now  does this mean that there is so overtly racism comspiracy  to keep minorities out the spot in videos game... No - Hell No   F**K No.  

Solution: one as getting more minorities into game development , you  make the creative so more diverse  the product side should start to reflect this as well. 


now back to farming souls in Dark Souls

Modifié par nitefyre410, 05 janvier 2012 - 02:12 .


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I doubt she was ever meant to comparable to an african woman sure (lacks the features). She's more like that gypsie woman from Quasimoto.

That's still some kind of ethnic though.

I do agree, ethnic.

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
She totally does not look like a dude.

You can never be too sure. I remember a time when I had the hots for Dead or Alive's Eliot.

Of all the characters to perv on I had to pick that one >.>


You wound me so. And that's...an...interesting character there.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Manshep is the only real soldier, though. Femshep should realistically stay behind friendly lines to breed more future soldiers.


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GodWood wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
Sure, but not black. Definitely not black.

I doubt she was ever meant to comparable to an african woman sure (lacks the features). She's more like that gypsie woman from Quasimoto.

That's still some kind of ethnic though.

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
She totally does not look like a dude.

You can never be too sure. I remember a time when I had the hots for Dead or Alive's Eliot.

Of all the characters to perv on I had to pick that one >.>

Should've gone for Hitomi, now that's a fine Germanic specimen if I ever saw one.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 05 janvier 2012 - 02:22 .


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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Should've gone for Hitomi, now that's a fine Germanic specimen if I ever saw one.


this made me lol

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dcwarnow wrote...
Does anyone else wish they would release at least one trailer with the opposite sex's voice?


Yes.

I wish at least one Bioware RPG would feature a female PC. Or a black PC. Anything but a white human male would please me, really. With all the species and races available to sci fi and fantasy, it's sad that refuge is always taken in the familar western 'Hero'.

At least ME is getting some fem!Shep promotional material though. Any idea how much whining Dragon Age fans had to do to get a freakin' screenshot of DA2's fem!Hawke?

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Can we also get trailers for blonde femshep, redhead femshep, black femshep, black guyshep, ginger maleshep, bald and scarred maleshep, renshep, parashep, legionshep, salarianshep...

/sarcasm



At the end of the day, whe customisable characters are cocnerned, marketting is invariably going to choose a setting that reflects the majority of their market demographic. Which is, at present, brown hairred white males, it's no more racist or sexist than the democratic process (Nobody has ever seriously spoken out against the democratic process for representing the majority vote)

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 05 janvier 2012 - 02:38 .


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This little girl knows more about marketing than anyone in the video game and comic book industries.

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syllogi wrote...

This little girl knows more about marketing than anyone in the video game and comic book industries.

 

this is girl is going to be rich one day.

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womens rights are a joke

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syllogi wrote...

This little girl knows more about marketing than anyone in the video game and comic book industries.


That sounds a little bit like she's been coached.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

syllogi wrote...

This little girl knows more about marketing than anyone in the video game and comic book industries.


That sounds a little bit like she's been coached.


When my son was four, he wore a clip on tie all the time and his personal hero was Brian Williams.

Kids around that age can surprise you.

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Atakuma wrote...

Shepard is American, so it's also xenophobic.


If Shepard is American someone needs to ask him why he pronounces "resources" and organization" like a Canadian. I always assumed he was from the Seattle/Vancouver mega city(on the Canada side).

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Sexist my arse

First off, I don't really care who stars in the trailer. Second, I think ya'll should be grateful you even get the option to play as a female. Stop complaining about the tiny things that don't really matter, because once you get the game you can play as whoever you want. Black or white, female or male

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MegaBadExample wrote...

Sexist my arse

First off, I don't really care who stars in the trailer. Second, I think ya'll should be grateful you even get the option to play as a female. Stop complaining about the tiny things that don't really matter, because once you get the game you can play as whoever you want. Black or white, female or male


Box art and CGI trailers don't really concern me, but I think it is important that we get a chance to see ingame capture of FemShep before the game comes out, because I'd really like to see if the animations have been improved.

Being a female gamer/nerd sucks in general, so I take what I can get, but Bioware is one of the better companies about listening to fans, so I think asking for more representation in marketing isn't unreasonable.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

dcwarnow wrote...
Does anyone else wish they would release at least one trailer with the opposite sex's voice?


Yes.

I wish at least one Bioware RPG would feature a female PC. Or a black PC. Anything but a white human male would please me, really. With all the species and races available to sci fi and fantasy, it's sad that refuge is always taken in the familar western 'Hero'.


In my opinion, they always use a white male protagonist because it's safer. White males tend to be the least easily offended demographic because they are the privileged majority, thus you have a lot more wiggle room when i t comes to writing plot without having to worry about unintentionally offending a group of people.

Extremely simplified example: the default Shepard's history is Earthborn/Ruthless, right? Now, if default male Shepard had been black, don't you think people would have been complaining about the unfortunate implications of making a game where the black male protagonist was poor and came from a gang? 150 years in the future and the same stereotype was hanging around. Bummer. It's just easier to use a white male PC because it gives you more flexibility in plot without needing to worry about 'unfortunate implications' slipping in there somewhere.

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My canon is a femshep, and I like that Bioware only uses Sheploo in their advertising. It just makes it that much more special to me when I get to see my Shepard doing all that stuff in the actual game.

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 05 janvier 2012 - 03:49 .


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The sad thing is, OP is serious. And even sadder is that ME3 will feature a male/male "romance".

ME4 defaultShep will probably be a black Afro-African lesbian woman with only one leg. Just to be sure.

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An autistic black jewish lesbian, to be precise. Might as well cram as many oppressed groups in there as possible.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 05 janvier 2012 - 03:53 .


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TS2Aggie wrote...

Extremely simplified example: the default Shepard's history is Earthborn/Ruthless, right? Now, if default male Shepard had been black, don't you think people would have been complaining about the unfortunate implications of making a game where the black male protagonist was poor and came from a gang? 150 years in the future and the same stereotype was hanging around. Bummer. It's just easier to use a white male PC because it gives you more flexibility in plot without needing to worry about 'unfortunate implications' slipping in there somewhere.



Reported for actually making sense, we don´t need any of that in here,get out!!!

But it wouldn't kill them to just do a trailer with the "iconic"  female shepard,i play with the default sheploo but it would be nice to see it for the guys and gals who play as female shepards

Modifié par LOLZAO, 05 janvier 2012 - 03:59 .


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TS2Aggie wrote...

An autistic black jewish lesbian, to be precise. Might as well cram as many oppressed groups in there as possible.


You forgot poor and geriatric. :lol:

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in B4 the lock!