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[LGTX]

Sheploo exists solely for the marketing, complaining about that prior to the THIRD game's release... Yeah, not too productive. And that's disregarding the obviously inaccurate in the OP.

[Nashiktal]

ncknck wrote...

The sad thing is, OP is serious. And even sadder is that ME3 will feature a male/male "romance".

ME4 defaultShep will probably be a black Afro-African lesbian woman with only one leg. Just to be sure.

To be fair that would be a kickass protagonist.

[Bananables]

Nashiktal wrote...

ncknck wrote...

The sad thing is, OP is serious. And even sadder is that ME3 will feature a male/male "romance".

ME4 defaultShep will probably be a black Afro-African lesbian woman with only one leg. Just to be sure.

To be fair that would be a kickass protagonist.

THAT would put a stop to these threads.

[ediskrad327]

ncknck wrote...

The sad thing is, OP is serious. And even sadder is that ME3 will feature a male/male "romance".

ME4 defaultShep will probably be a black Afro-African lesbian woman with only one leg. Just to be sure.

even sadder is complaining about an OPTIONAL romance

Modifié par ediskrad327, 05 janvier 2012 - 05:10 .

[Volus Warlord]

Uh.. hey!!! Pretentious 'tolerance and equality' jaggoffs!!

The trailer is not made to champion tolerance and equality. The trailer is made to get the game positive attention and MAKE MONNAH! I really don't see how you could confuse the two.

You see, 80% of players used the male protaganist, and 20% used the female. There is no reason to suspect that will change significantly in ME3. So.. in order to generate the most revenue, you advertise with ..guess what.. the MALE PROTAGANIST! If you going to spend millions to make a trailer you are going to want it to generate millions for you when the game comes out.

Money > a misplaced sense of PC. Always!

[Laser Beam]

ncknck wrote...

The sad thing is, OP is serious. And even sadder is that ME3 will feature a male/male "romance".

ME4 defaultShep will probably be a black Afro-African lesbian woman with only one leg. Just to be sure.

Congrats! I now agree with the OP just a little bit more...

[Aggie Punbot]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Uh.. hey!!! Pretentious 'tolerance and equality' jaggoffs!!

The trailer is not made to champion tolerance and equality. The trailer is made to get the game positive attention and MAKE MONNAH! I really don't see how you could confuse the two.

You see, 80% of players used the male protaganist, and 20% used the female. There is no reason to suspect that will change significantly in ME3. So.. in order to generate the most revenue, you advertise with ..guess what.. the MALE PROTAGANIST! If you going to spend millions to make a trailer you are going to want it to generate millions for you when the game comes out.

Money > a misplaced sense of PC. Always!

There's nothing 'misplaced' about the desire to see a female PC being advertised in a game where it's an option to play as one. Making mention of the fact that you can play as either gender probably wouldn't hurt sales, either: the people who only play as men could do so and the people who play as women could also do so. Win/win!

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 05 janvier 2012 - 05:05 .

[The Spamming Troll]

i want to see a femshep trailer and i want my manshep to romance femshep in ME3.

i demand this ending in ME3!

[Volus Warlord]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Uh.. hey!!! Pretentious 'tolerance and equality' jaggoffs!!

The trailer is not made to champion tolerance and equality. The trailer is made to get the game positive attention and MAKE MONNAH! I really don't see how you could confuse the two.

You see, 80% of players used the male protaganist, and 20% used the female. There is no reason to suspect that will change significantly in ME3. So.. in order to generate the most revenue, you advertise with ..guess what.. the MALE PROTAGANIST! If you going to spend millions to make a trailer you are going to want it to generate millions for you when the game comes out.

Money > a misplaced sense of PC. Always!

There's nothing 'misplaced' about the desire to see a female PC being advertised in a game where it's an option to play as one. Making mention of the fact that you can play as either gender probably wouldn't hurt sales, either: the people who only play as men could do so and the people who play as women could also do so. Win/win!

While they're at it, why don't the advertise the SS romance too? That'll definitely get the game more sales.

[Ryzaki]

ediskrad327 wrote...

ncknck wrote...

The sad thing is, OP is serious. And even sadder is that ME3 will feature a male/male "romance".

ME4 defaultShep will probably be a black Afro-African lesbian woman with only one leg. Just to be sure.

even sadder is complaining about an OPTIONAL romance

this <_<

[syllogi]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Uh.. hey!!! Pretentious 'tolerance and equality' jaggoffs!!

The trailer is not made to champion tolerance and equality. The trailer is made to get the game positive attention and MAKE MONNAH! I really don't see how you could confuse the two.

You see, 80% of players used the male protaganist, and 20% used the female. There is no reason to suspect that will change significantly in ME3. So.. in order to generate the most revenue, you advertise with ..guess what.. the MALE PROTAGANIST! If you going to spend millions to make a trailer you are going to want it to generate millions for you when the game comes out.

Money > a misplaced sense of PC. Always!

The OP sounds like she hasn't spent a lot of time on the BSN, so she didn't really know what to expect.  I feel for her.

Trailers are not made to coddle minority fan groups, but they are made to draw in new fans.  It's not such a terrible thing to ask for advertising that appeals to a wider range of fans.  After all, if more people play Bioware games, they will make more games.  So it behooves both the company and fans to have an interest in drawing in as many new players as possible, whether they're male or female.

But yeah, everyone knows girl gamers only play the Sims franchise and World of Warcraft.  And those games don't make ANY money, right???

[S.A.K]

Jexx21 wrote...

Shepard*

Wrex*

[nitefyre410]

syllogi wrote...

 World of Warcraft.  And those games don't make ANY money, right???

 

Well if that was the I would be a couple hundred bucks richer at the moment...*checks bank account* ... nope... it was worth a shot

[Volus Warlord]

syllogi wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Uh.. hey!!! Pretentious 'tolerance and equality' jaggoffs!!

The trailer is not made to champion tolerance and equality. The trailer is made to get the game positive attention and MAKE MONNAH! I really don't see how you could confuse the two.

You see, 80% of players used the male protaganist, and 20% used the female. There is no reason to suspect that will change significantly in ME3. So.. in order to generate the most revenue, you advertise with ..guess what.. the MALE PROTAGANIST! If you going to spend millions to make a trailer you are going to want it to generate millions for you when the game comes out.

Money > a misplaced sense of PC. Always!

The OP sounds like she hasn't spent a lot of time on the BSN, so she didn't really know what to expect.  I feel for her.

Trailers are not made to coddle minority fan groups, but they are made to draw in new fans.  It's not such a terrible thing to ask for advertising that appeals to a wider range of fans.  After all, if more people play Bioware games, they will make more games.  So it behooves both the company and fans to have an interest in drawing in as many new players as possible, whether they're male or female.

But yeah, everyone knows girl gamers only play the Sims franchise and World of Warcraft.  And those games don't make ANY money, right???

Ok, so you're taking the semi-reasonable approach..

How would one appeal to a wider range of fans? Frankly, if they did ads with both femshep and manshep it'd be more likely to confuse the hell out of the ME laymen then interest them.  And it's not like games with similar options do ads with both male and female protaganists. Not much that I've seen, anyway.

And of course, making the trailer for femshep would probably take about as much time and money as manshep-to appeal to a much less lucrative fanbase for this franchise. It's not about what will make ANY money, it's about what will make the MOST money. If accounting says you got the money to do one trailer, which one will you make it with?  It's a pretty obvious decision. Remember: Money!

[AgitatedLemon]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i want to see a femshep trailer and i want my manshep to romance femshep in ME3.

i demand this ending in ME3!

Is it incest if it's with yourself?

[Silver77nz]

Sexist? No I don't think so. Sheploo is the default character of Mass Effect. I don't think BW had any idea that girls would like ME and it became a suprise to them when we did. There has been promise of Femshep trailer and it would be nice to see since they made a big deal about her hairstyle and color. I won't be really upset though if they don't. Either way not too much longer now and we will have the game.

[Yuqi]

It's not locked yet??

I can't wait for the inevitable hate, that is going to spew over xboxlive...<_<

ME3-Online-Multiplayer:

Male Gamer gets his beaten/showed up by a Female Gamer. Male Gamer realises his masculinity is threatened, so he uses the "I let you win.." line.

Modifié par Yuqi, 05 janvier 2012 - 05:40 .

[Volus Warlord]

Yuqi wrote...

It's not locked yet??

I can't wait for the inevitable hate, that is going to spew over xboxlive...<_<

ME3-Online-Multiplayer:

Male Gamer gets his beaten/showed up by a Female Gamer. Male Gamer realises his masculinity is threatened, so he uses the "I let you win.." line.

Go on Xbox Live now. It's refreshing to get sworn at by some brat that probably hasn't hit puberty.

[Yuqi]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

It's not locked yet??

I can't wait for the inevitable hate, that is going to spew over xboxlive...<_<

ME3-Online-Multiplayer:

Male Gamer gets his beaten/showed up by a Female Gamer. Male Gamer realises his masculinity is threatened, so he uses the "I let you win.." line.

Go on Xbox Live now. It's refreshing to get sworn at by some brat that probably hasn't hit puberty.

I don't even keep my wireless adaptor plugged in the xbox, unless downloading content. I get sick of the idiots, the younger ones have no patience.(and they wonder why they get there butts kicked...) For every decent male gamer Ihave met, ten more crack stupid kitchen jokes. 

Modifié par Yuqi, 05 janvier 2012 - 05:52 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Yuqi wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

It's not locked yet??

I can't wait for the inevitable hate, that is going to spew over xboxlive...<_<

ME3-Online-Multiplayer:

Male Gamer gets his beaten/showed up by a Female Gamer. Male Gamer realises his masculinity is threatened, so he uses the "I let you win.." line.

Go on Xbox Live now. It's refreshing to get sworn at by some brat that probably hasn't hit puberty.

I don't even keep my wireless adaptor plugged in the xbox, unless downloading content. I get sick of the idiots, the younger ones have no patience,(and wonder why they get there butts kicked.) For every decent male gamer Ihave met,ten more crack stupid kitchen jokes. 

I must be the only human on this planet to not be swarmed by small children incessantly sputing poop and dick jokes on Xbox LIVE, I guess.

[syllogi]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Ok, so you're taking the semi-reasonable approach..

How would one appeal to a wider range of fans? Frankly, if they did ads with both femshep and manshep it'd be more likely to confuse the hell out of the ME laymen then interest them.  And it's not like games with similar options do ads with both male and female protaganists. Not much that I've seen, anyway.

And of course, making the trailer for femshep would probably take about as much time and money as manshep-to appeal to a much less lucrative fanbase for this franchise. It's not about what will make ANY money, it's about what will make the MOST money. If accounting says you got the money to do one trailer, which one will you make it with?  It's a pretty obvious decision. Remember: Money!

I think we both agree, money is good.  It can be exchanged for goods and services.

The thing about marketing is that a well executed advertising campaign should and can appeal to many demographics.  Think about the most memorable ads you've ever seen.  Do you think they only appealed to 18 to 35 year old white males?  Or perhaps their appeal was more universal than that?  Why wouldn't a marketing campaign want to lure in as many people as possible?

I know your initial post was worded to be inflammatory and adversarial towards female posters, but if you're serious at all, I don't see why you'd be against a trailer consisting of ingame footage of FemShep.  The cost wouldn't be prohibitive, it would attract new players, and at this point, it would be fulfilling the promise that Bioware marketing has already made.  NOT putting out a FemShep trailer would reflect poorly on those who told fans that a FemShep trailer is on the way.  So why in the world would they back out at this point?

[Fiery Phoenix]

JamieCOTC wrote...

OP's comments aside there is supposed to be a femShep trailer.  It's coming out soon™. 

This.

The trailer will be here soon™ so there is no need to worry.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

I wish at least one Bioware RPG would feature a female PC. Or a black PC. Anything but a white human male would please me, really. With all the species and races available to sci fi and fantasy, it's sad that refuge is always taken in the familar western 'Hero'.

In my opinion, they always use a white male protagonist because it's safer. White males tend to be the least easily offended demographic because they are the privileged majority, thus you have a lot more wiggle room when i t comes to writing plot without having to worry about unintentionally offending a group of people.

Oh, I don't disagree that it's safe. It's familiar, like I said. A comfort zone. If it's working and making money, why change it?

I just wish they would.

Edit: It's news to me that a fem!Shep version of the trailer is in the works, so thank you for the tip, thread. I get the feeling I shouldn't hold my breath though?

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 05 janvier 2012 - 06:51 .

[Aggie Punbot]

They're probably just taking their sweet time in releasing the femshep trailer in order to make sure it is damned good.

[Asch Lavigne]

If they marketed a female main character from the beginning I wonder if people would think that Mass Effect or even Dragon Age was "girly."