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[Il Divo]

naughty99 wrote...

In a pen and paper game, when your GM asks you, "what do you want to do?" that question is overflowing with possibilities. You can go anywhere in that world, talk to any of an infinite number of NPCs, literally do anything, or at least make the attempt. Your next step for an adventure in a PnP game could mean enlisting the aid of that NPC you just met, making a mortal enemy out of him, killing him, stealing from him, lying to him, blowing it off and going in a completely different direction, or choosing any of an infinite number of a possible actions, all depending on what you feel your character would choose to do. The narrative develops organically out of that improv between player and GM, typically with the GM frantically adjusting his pre-planned adventure on the fly to accomodate the player choices along the way.

No videogame is ever going to come close to the infinite degree of player choice in a pen and paper game, but massive open world RPGs with lots of factions, thousands of NPCs, hundreds of side quests, lots of layers of activity in the world, etc., come closer to recapturing this particular aspect than more rigidly structured interactive movie-type games.

Stop it, man. I'm getting really nostalgic for my PnP group right now.

[Zubie]

Favorite: Difficult to pick just one, so I'll go with - Dragon Age: Origins, the Witcher series and Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.

Hated: Dragon Age 2

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Favourite: Probably Fallout 2. Honorable mentions to Morrowind and Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.

Hated: Gothic 4.

Fallout 2 did a lot of things that kind of broke the setting that Fallout 1 tried to establish. Time travel, aliens, humor/silliness and all that. But despite that, it manages to be the best roleplaying game I've ever played (if you consider when it came out).

It was one of those games that gave you enough of a platform through it's mechanics and systems to let you create a variety of characters in a way that you could transfer imaginitive concepts into hard character builds that worked in the game and not just in your head. If your character was Intelligent or Stupid, he could actually be Intelligent or a ****** in the game. If they were Agile, they could actually be faster and more Agile than other characters, and so on. That concept (character systems represent characters and are not just an arbitrary bunch of numbers determining damage in combat) is so rare amongst developers these days it makes my head hurt.

Add to that, the game gave you enough of a backstory, gave you enough places and locations to explore, gave you enough solid writing, gave you enough choices and enough memorable characters to make the journey feel unique and enjoyable for each kind of character you make.

It would be nowhere as good if it were being released today for the first time, but definitely a classic in my eyes. I tend to think that despite the difference in gameplay mechanics and style, Fallout: New Vegas followed and expanded on the design philosophy of Fallout 2. Whether people like that is up to them, but that is my opinion.

As for Gothic 4: Arcania? Awful, awful game. Gothic 4 wishes it was as bad as Dragon Age 2 or Alpha Protocol, because there's a significant split in supporters and detractors for those games. Gothic 4 is universally regarded as crap.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 12 janvier 2012 - 03:20 .

[slimgrin]

Alright that's it. I'm buying Vampire: the Masquerade. It's gotten way too many recommendations for me to ignore it.

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 janvier 2012 - 03:22 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

slimgrin wrote...

Alright that's it. I'm buying Vampire: the Masquerade. It's gotten way too many recommendations for me to ignore it.

You won't regret it. Just make sure to get the 1.2 official patch and the latest Unofficial Fan patch too, the fan patch fixes a lot of bugs and combat balance and adds a few new things too.

[slimgrin]

I've got Steam version, Steam supposedly updates automatically.

[Dominus]

In case steam doesn't happen to include it, you can find the official and unofficial patches here.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

slimgrin wrote...

I've got Steam version, Steam supposedly updates automatically.

I'd say look for the Tru-Vampire Patch by TessMage. I think it's the best patch because it keeps everything the same, and it keeps the game tight. We5p's, or whoever you spell it, patch gave me a lot of issues, and if you go to TessMage's site (if it's still up) you can get some high resolution skins that look pretty good.

[Chromie]

slimgrin wrote...

Alright that's it. I'm buying Vampire: the Masquerade. It's gotten way too many recommendations for me to ignore it.

Seriously a fantastic game. I know you'll like it. Just make sure you go to this thread and do what it says.

http://forums.steamp...d.php?t=2248283 

Not only does it fix some of the most annoying bugs it will restore some content and more. 

[naughty99]

Ringo12 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Alright that's it. I'm buying Vampire: the Masquerade. It's gotten way too many recommendations for me to ignore it.

Seriously a fantastic game. I know you'll like it. Just make sure you go to this thread and do what it says.

http://forums.steamp...d.php?t=2248283 

Not only does it fix some of the most annoying bugs it will restore some content and more. 

I will add my voice to the chorus. It really is a great game. And there are modders still supporting it with community patches and fixes (I believe the most recent patch was just a few weeks ago).