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Ok. . . Kaidan, out ranks Shep now. . .will that have a effect on how Shep operates


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#51
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Shep will probably get promoted during the trial.

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Adugan wrote...

Shep will probably get promoted during the trial.


Shepard was stripped of his/her rank before ME3 so no

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He's needed a promotion for a while now....what does he get from everyone? --> A T-shirt that says "I saved the galaxy, died, and came back to life to save it again and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"

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Doesn't matter if he was 'stripped of rank before ME3' or not. That kind of thing can easily get reinstated just as easily as it was 'stripped' considering the **** that's going on. Also I don't remember his rank being stripped, hes just not IN the Military anymore due to his death. He never got reinstated. If he was, he wouldn't start out as a private again.

You get reinstated you usually keep your old rank, or get a promote/demote. And in this case, again, due to the obvious (overly obvious) reaper threat there's a high probability they would reinstate him and promote on the spot. Same ordeal with Spectre status. Even if you never got it re-activated in ME2 you can bet it'll be reinstated immediately in ME3 when there all kissing your ass about saving the galaxy again.

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 A couple of things...
Lt. Commander and Major are the same rank, therefore, between the two, Shepard is senior to Ash or Kaidan due to longivity. See http://www.defense.g...s/officers.aspx for a comparrison of ranks

Also note that the officer in charge of a vessel (such as a frigate) is refferred to as Captain and is the senior officer in charge. This is known as 'positional authority' aboard the vessal and is by default senior to any officer of equal rank and below assigned to the vessel.

I do, however, wonder what the thinking is in the command structure as listed in the  wiki is when all of the ranks generally follow naval rankings otherwise. Perhaps Major Sounded more cool than Colonel.

So if Kaidan/Ash are promoted to Major, then Shep should be promoted to Capt/Maj as well.

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 05 janvier 2012 - 09:46 .


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Shepard is a Spectre or an ex-Spectre depending on your decisions. Although you may get reinstated, he still operates outside and above the rank and file.

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Lieutenant Commander is equal to Major in most armies. So that won't be a problem. But Major isn't a navy rank which means Kaidan was re-assigned(if I am not mistaken).

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Ryzaki wrote...

Shotokanguy wrote...

Kaidan outranked Shepard in ME2, IIRC.

Their Alliance ranks don't mean much of anything when all 3 of them will be Spectres in ME3, though. At the end of the day, Ash and Kaidan will both follow Shepard's lead. Probably.

I wouldn't mind if your actions can result in them butting heads with you.


He did? I thought they were the same rank?

Anyway he starts getting smart assed and this'll happen.

hahah vampire knight :D

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Rank is irrelevant in the face of the whole extermination of earth thing.... i think Kaiden will be willing to take a back seat since Shepard has more of the puzzle, wheras he has been out of the loop

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S.A.K wrote...

Lieutenant Commander is equal to Major in most armies. So that won't be a problem. But Major isn't a navy rank which means Kaidan was re-assigned(if I am not mistaken).


Real navy ≠ Space Navy
In this Mass effect
ENLISTED

  • Serviceman 3rd class/Private 2nd class
  • Serviceman 2nd class/Private 1st class
  • Serviceman 1st class/Corporal
NCOs

  • Service Chief
  • Gunnery Chief
  • Operations Chief
OFFICERS

  • 2nd Lieutenant
  • 1st Lieutenant
  • Staff Lieutenant
  • Lieutenant Commander
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  • Captain/Major
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elfdwarf wrote...

did the warden take order from alistair
answer is no

Allistair chose to take a backseat, he could have pulled rank anytime in the begining and taken charge if he wanted, but then it would not be as fun with someone else making the decisions

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Gabey5 wrote...

  • 2nd Lieutenant



  • 1st Lieutenant



  • Staff Lieutenant



  • Lieutenant Commander



  • Staff Commander



  • Captain/Major

I can't speak about the US army. But in our army it is: Lieutenant - Senior Lieutenant - Captain - Major - Lieutenant Colonel - Colonel - General. So 'Commander' would be a sort of the person in charge (no matter the rank). Also I think 'Captain' can be used for the one who commands a ship even though according to rank he/she is Major or even Colonel. Since the Normandy is a special ship it wouldn't be a big surprise if it was commanded by someone ranking higher than Captain. Shepard once mentioned to the quarian Captain that he/she isn't a Captain of rank yet, suggesting Shep's rank is lower than Captain. Though I would assume Shepard left the Alliance to become Spectre, so from this point there is no point promoting Shep further. Spectre is probably even more powerful than Admiral. Just that neither an Admiral can command a Spectre nor the other way around. It is simply a different job. So the VS rank won't matter anyway, Spectre is Spectre.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 05 janvier 2012 - 11:46 .


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i could deff see ash telling a male shep what to do if they where in a romance.

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There was a tweet by Mac saying that we will find out what the VS has done etc like how Liara was after the shadow broker etc. So there will be a reason for their promotion and SPECTRE status.

This whole "oh so he outranks me I'm going to kill him" is just plain silly.

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Gabey5 wrote...

elfdwarf wrote...

did the warden take order from alistair
answer is no

Allistair chose to take a backseat, he could have pulled rank anytime in the begining and taken charge if he wanted, but then it would not be as fun with someone else making the decisions


More like they all would've died if DSC is any indication.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

elfdwarf wrote...

did the warden take order from alistair
answer is no

Allistair chose to take a backseat, he could have pulled rank anytime in the begining and taken charge if he wanted, but then it would not be as fun with someone else making the decisions


More like they all would've died if DSC is any indication.

On the other hand we would have gotten a real Blight. Not this would-be one.

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Gabey5 wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Lieutenant Commander is equal to Major in most armies. So that won't be a problem. But Major isn't a navy rank which means Kaidan was re-assigned(if I am not mistaken).


Real navy ≠ Space Navy
In this Mass effect
ENLISTED

 

So, Ash jumped six ranks in two years? She went from Gunnery Chief to LT Commander. That's realistic.

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Nope, I don't believe rank will have any effect on the Normandy. We're up against Reapers and galactic harvesting, so if Shepard takes command of the Normandy and the crew with general approval, then I doubt Kaidan is the type of guy to fight over it.

Besides Shepard need a promotion, not just reinstatement.

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Slidell505 wrote...
So, Ash jumped six ranks in two years? She went from Gunnery Chief to LT Commander. That's realistic.


Yeah that's pretty ridculous.

AlexXIV wrote...
On the other hand we would have gotten a real Blight. Not this would-be one.


True.

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Sylvara wrote...

Nope, I don't believe rank will have any effect on the Normandy. We're up against Reapers and galactic harvesting, so if Shepard takes command of the Normandy and the crew with general approval, then I doubt Kaidan is the type of guy to fight over it.

Besides Shepard need a promotion, not just reinstatement.

The point is there is no promotion for Spectres. If you leave the Alliance to become Spectre you are ex-Commander or whatever the rank was. And you are Spectre now. I don't know if Spectres have a ranking of any sort, but I doubt it. They are all the same. Ash/Kay may have been promoted while Shep already has been Spectre (even though from Lieutenant to Major in 2 years seems a bit off).

Anyway, I am sure Bioware didn't think alot about whether it makes sense, as usual.

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Yep, Shepard will become the tea boy in ME3.

#72
crimzontearz

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Alenko died in all my playthroughs. That said if him or Ashley even begin to question my Shepard's authority they are getting airlocked

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That rank won't matter for long.

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shepskisaac

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Yes, Shep's on the bottom now ^_^

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They'll settle every disagreement, rank confusion and card game wiith manly mud wrestling!
INNA CAAAGE!
Two men enter! One man leave!