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Ok. . . Kaidan, out ranks Shep now. . .will that have a effect on how Shep operates


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#126
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Im not sure what is said but there's a conversation inM1 in the Citadel elevator where Wrex and Kaiden have a conversation about who would win in a fight Shepard or Kaiden. I'm Paragon all the way but if Kaiden gets out of line with my Shepard I'll hit that left trigger.

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heres the link starts around the 26 sec mark

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mulder1199

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i'll just falcon punch the VS and tell them to watch their mouth, or they'll find themselves floating home....

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AlexXIV

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Someone With Mass wrote...

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Unlikely as a Spectre he/she works for the Council, not the Alliance. That would be the same as if the Turians or Asari or Salarians promoted Shep. Shep may be an alliance soldier in his/her heart, but not as a matter of fact.


Same thing can be said about Kaidan.

Well same thing for Kaiden. Either Spectre or Alliance Officer. Not both.

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Ryzaki wrote...

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No Kaidan will not give Shep orders.

Even though Shep really needs a promotion.

How is it possible ? So Shepard will give orders to Kaidan ?


No. Shep's reinstated right before he leaves Earth during ME3.

Kaidan's not giving Shep orders. Shep wouldn't give a damn anyway. Giving Shep orders is an exercise in futility unless you have the muscle to back it up (hi there TIM).

Someone With Mass wrote...

Yep.


Shep's thumb looks creepy there. :unsure:

Reinstated as a Spectre? Or in the Alliance? Since my Shep's always been a Spectre since ME1. So there would not be need for either?

Modifié par AlexXIV, 05 janvier 2012 - 05:53 .


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Biotic Sage wrote...

Kaidan may technically outrank Shepard by Alliance standards, but Shep need only whip out his balls and the matter of "who outranks who" is immediately settled.


You can either follow me or get crushed underneath my heel...

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Well, On the ship, the 'commander' has the final say, no matter the rank. On the planet though, when Im shooting through enemies with wrex and kaidan... If kaidan decides we should go left and shep thinks right, kaidan can go suck it. I've got 400pounds of biotic krogan to back me up in case he gets lippy.

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AlexXIV wrote...
Reinstated as a Spectre? Or in the Alliance? Since my Shep's always been a Spectre since ME1. So there would not be need for either?


The alliance.

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Ryzaki wrote...

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Reinstated as a Spectre? Or in the Alliance? Since my Shep's always been a Spectre since ME1. So there would not be need for either?


The alliance.

But why? She's a Spectre, she answers only to the Council. Oh Bioware what are you doing?

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Well according to that gamer article the council gives back your specter status so regardless of weather you turned them down or not in 2 you out rank VS after that point. I really would tell VS to stow it if they were to give me orders anyway taking the Quaraian defense its my ship ergo you have no control over it unless you board it. I really hope BW allows shep to talk back to TIM and VS since they refused to allow that in 2. A second reason for not having to fallow VS orders for 3 is if you got your specter status back in 2 you auto outrank VS right off.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 05 janvier 2012 - 06:04 .


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AlexXIV wrote...

But why? She's a Spectre, she answers only to the Council. Oh Bioware what are you doing?


Oh, FFS.  Shep was still in the Alliance for all of ME1.  I.e., while Shep was a Spectre.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

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Reinstated as a Spectre? Or in the Alliance? Since my Shep's always been a Spectre since ME1. So there would not be need for either?


The alliance.

But why? She's a Spectre, she answers only to the Council. Oh Bioware what are you doing?


A. Because all Sheps aren't Spectres at that point

and B. Because the plot demands.

I better be able to tell the alliance to KMA at endgame though.

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my shepard doesnt give a crap about labels.

hes going to save the galaxy regardless of any sort of rank.

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Destroy Raiden wrote...

Well according to that gamer article the council gives back your specter status so regardless of weather you turned them down or not in 2 you out rank VS after that point. 


No, you don't because the Spectres have no ranking system, and the VS is a Spectre too. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Well according to that gamer article the council gives back your specter status so regardless of weather you turned them down or not in 2 you out rank VS after that point. 


No, you don't because the Spectres have no ranking system, and the VS is a Spectre too. 


That and I wouldn't take too much of that information from that outstanding example of quality journalism to heart.

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My Shepard will be in command. Anyone who says otherwise will be killed, Klingon-style.

Modifié par Ramus Quaritch, 05 janvier 2012 - 06:14 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Well according to that gamer article the council gives back your specter status so regardless of weather you turned them down or not in 2 you out rank VS after that point. 


No, you don't because the Spectres have no ranking system, and the VS is a Spectre too. 


Then they can't pull rank on Shepard either. Probably won't either, since I can just shoot them repeatedly in the face without any repercussions whatsoever if they oppose me.

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The leaked beta videos ive watched,ashley was being called Lt. Commander...Kaiden should be the same.Lt. Commander is the rank below Commander.Im quite sure Major is below commander as well.In the navy the only ranks higher than commander are Captain,Admiral and Admiral of the fleet.

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didymos1120 wrote...

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But why? She's a Spectre, she answers only to the Council. Oh Bioware what are you doing?


Oh, FFS.  Shep was still in the Alliance for all of ME1.  I.e., while Shep was a Spectre.

In that case, where is the promotion for all the accomplishments? The only way it made sense Shep didn't get promoted for example for saving the Citadel was that as a Spectre he/she is not an alliance soldier.

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i made myself captain of the normandy whilst on the flotilla, kaiden and ash can suck it.....

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Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

Well according to that gamer article the council gives back your specter status so regardless of weather you turned them down or not in 2 you out rank VS after that point. 


No, you don't because the Spectres have no ranking system, and the VS is a Spectre too. 


Then they can't pull rank on Shepard either. Probably won't either, since I can just shoot them repeatedly in the face without any repercussions whatsoever if they oppose me.


Here's what actually matters: who was given command of the Normandy, because that's an all-Alliance crew. 

Also, can we just stipulate that everyone is just that (make-believe) badass and won't take any lip or whatever? All this e-posturing is getting tiresome.   And for now, we'll just ignore the fact that you'll do what the devs allow you to and no more.

Modifié par didymos1120, 05 janvier 2012 - 06:28 .


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Yea, if Kaidan says anything that even remotely sounds like an order... or hell, if Anderson or Hackett try the same - they're sooo dead cause it's not like we are working together to defeat the reapers or anything like that, and pulling rank is exactly what people do in such dire situations. Seriously though, chill people, I'm sure your beloved Shepards (and mine, too) will stay in command and possibly even save the galaxy.

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Doriath666 wrote...

The leaked beta videos ive watched,ashley was being called Lt. Commander...Kaiden should be the same.Lt. Commander is the rank below Commander.Im quite sure Major is below commander as well.In the navy the only ranks higher than commander are Captain,Admiral and Admiral of the fleet.


Suffice it to say yet again: that's not how SA ranks work. Major outranks Staff Commander outranks Lt. Commander.  Real world ranking systems are not relevant.  See the Codex.  Or the topic you're posting in.

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Kaidan telling Shepasaurus what to do??!?!?! Get real, I can easily kill him on Virmire if he gets out of order ;)

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didymos1120 wrote...

Here's what actually matters: who was given command of the Normandy, because that's an all-Alliance crew. 

Also, can we just stipulate that everyone is just that (make-believe) badass and won't take any lip or whatever? All this e-posturing is getting tiresome.   And for now, we'll just ignore the fact that you'll do what the devs allow you to and no more.


Last time I checked, it's still Shepard's ship.